tonights running....WOW...

Chaffin Crank · Post by **Chaffin Crank** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:27 pm

Tonight I took my male out for awhile. We no sooner crossed the road and he jumped the first rabbit and pounded it for about 15 mins before he stured up a hornets nest...I thought it would come to an end there....but within 15 mins he had jumped one of the best runners I had ever seen. He was pretty much sprinting for about an hour and a half in circles up and down hills (big circles) the rabbit finally ran up beside the road and and crossed. Here came Rockey right on his butt, but he was running kinda funny. His rear end was kinda wobbly like he was getting overheated. (he doesn't like the heat) So I stopped him in the middle of the road and he just fell over tired and panting like I've never seen before. I picked him up and carried him home and gave him water and sprayed him down with the water hose....He seemed to be doing okay when I came in a few mins ago. We'll see how his is tomorrow evening and if he feels up to it, we'll do it again hopefully....Some of the best running I have seen for a long while....Sorry I got alittle excited....

Valley Boi · Post by **Valley Boi** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:21 am

Man, I sure hope he will be ok. You got to watch out for this heat and our hounds. My pup and pup trainer got on a hot track and ran for a timed 57 min., I intended for them to only run a good 30 min. but they were in the thick stuff, I caught them after the rabbit came out on the road, it was nice and cool Sunday nite. Keep us updated on his condition.

Chaffin Crank · Post by **Chaffin Crank** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:58 pm

He'll be fine...let him run this evening and he ran one for about 20 minutes and I put him up....I don't know if it was the heat that got to him or maybe it was the hornets..I don't know....I just know it was the best running I have had in a long time....

Valley Boi · Post by **Valley Boi** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:52 am

yea, good he is ok then.....

bunnie harvester · Post by **bunnie harvester** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:13 am

Your a lucky man, that male of yours is STILL alive

This heat is VERY hard on running dogs, most wait till late night or very early am,like 9pm and 4 am, 1 1/2 hrs in this heat is deadly
MOST experienced DOGMEN and WOWEN will leave that male in the pen,keep him in shade and plenty off fresh water,I myself would keep a very close eye on this male,his electrolytes are DOWN, he is dehydrated he NEEDS a lot of TLC

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Chaffin Crank · Post by **Chaffin Crank** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:50 pm

He's fine..Considering I go to bed at 9pm or little before and I'm getting ready to leave for work at 4am, he runs when I get the time....And if people feel they need to baby their hound because he got overheated that's their option...but all a hound need is a couple hours rest and some water and they are ready to go again...If there is one thing I know, it's my hounds....That might be it, but it gets me by...LOL

bunnie harvester · Post by **bunnie harvester** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:07 am

BUBBA,,,

,,your dog ..............

TomMN · Post by **TomMN** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:06 pm

I read somewhere that when dogs get overheated it causes kidney damage. It doesn't bother them much when they are young but it will catch up to them when they get older. May be one reason so many beagles die of kidney failure when they get up around 8 years old. I won't run mine much in this weather.

Waccamaw Beagler · Post by **Waccamaw Beagler** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:24 pm

If the dog would have been overheated then he wouldn't have recovered so quickly. I think he should be proud of that dog. Sounds like he's tough as nails.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:21 pm

Waccamaw Beagler wrote:If the dog would have been overheated then he wouldn't have recovered so quickly.

I disagree with how fast they recover. I had a dachsund that overheated and was taken in and put on concrete and within 5 minutes there was a huge difference. Vet said had we not cooled her down so quickly she probably would have had a stroke. jmo, Hunter
(keep'em cool and keep'em running with plenty of water)

show dog · Post by **show dog** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:19 pm

It's a fine line between overheating and not. My one hound overheats very easily, gets the wobbles, stunned look. Have to get her cooled quickly when she does that. She is almost 12 so can go her own pace now.

Keep lots of water on hand and a towel to soak to help cool out. Heat can certainly kill the dog.

They are also remarkable in the way they recover quickly.
Carolyn

Chaffin Crank · Post by **Chaffin Crank** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:34 pm

I have read a few good books on beagles in the last couple of years, but the best thing I have seen on a canines power, stamina...etc was a show on the discovery channel. It was about how their bodies recover and how their bodies work (function)....The coolest thing I learned from it was that a wolf has the same power and never looses stamina....he can fight and hunt without stopping and never gets tired...But after reading and watching that program I have never heard of a hound getting kidney failure from overheating....Would like to know where you read that because now I'm curious...I just don't see what the 2 have in common but then again I don't know everything (but my son thinks I do.LOL)

I ran him again for alittle over an hour this evening after the rain and running was pretty good again...As far as him being "tough as nails" maybe tough as a thumb tack but not nails. He's actually a big baby that thinks he's a lap dog.....

Waccamaw Beagler · Post by **Waccamaw Beagler** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:14 pm

I don't know so much about rabbit dogs because I run Fox Beagles. We run ours once a week year round. Drop em off at the fox pen at about midnight and pick em up about 7 the next morning. Nine times out of ten they're still burning it down. In the winter we'll drop em off about 9 and let em run 11 or 12 hours. That's how you get some tough hounds. I offset that tough running by taking hella good care of my hounds. As far as the overheating I've only had it happen once and it was at a field trial. Took about a day to get over it.

TomMN · Post by **TomMN** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:20 am

"The physiological effects of heat stroke affect all organs and body systems....The kidneys are also severely affected. Renal tubular necrosis and acute renal failure may occur."

"If a specific cause of renal failure is identified, it must be treated to prevent further loss of healthy kidney tissue. For example, if renal failure results from heatstroke, the heat-stroke is treated aggressively to prevent further damage."

"Acute renal failure (ARF) is a common complication of heatstroke and may be due to hypovolemia, low cardiac output, and myoglobinuria (due to rhabdomyolysis)."

I'm not smart enough to understand everything I read but it sounds to me like letting your dog overheat is not good for their health.

I've seen dogs overheat during the daytime several times (I'm a slow learner).

On the other hand, I have run coonhounds at night during hot weather for many years and have only seen a dog collapse from the heat one time. I run beagles some at night when it is hot but I keep plenty of water handy. Most times they will come in when they get hot and drink their fill, lay around for a few minites, then go again. If they are in good condition (like Waccamaw Beagler's dogs) the heat doesn't bother them nearly as much as when they are soft or overweight.

tdog · Post by **tdog** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:04 pm

Carry water with you and don't run to long. Besides the heat the running is awsome here. I pulled in to my spot last night and was getting ready in the van looked over the hood and one was setting 15 feet from me. Only got to run 45 min and got chased out by a storm but constant running the whole time.