Pretty Sad...

[sammiller03]

I know how the first post makes you feel. a similar situation has happened a few times with me but instead of negative i'll be positive.
i had my first son 3 months ago and i thank god every day for my baby sitter and mine and my wifes families. our baby sitter owns a dairy farm and takes my baby to the barn every day. they have no tv and four hard working children for him to grow up with. I know it cant be easy on him at 4:30 am when i wake him up to get ready to go to the sitters while my wife and i are getting ready for work. I hope he looks around and see's people around him trying to work hard for what they have. Also at the baby sitters he is going to learn where food comes from, there are boundries that if you cross them you will get hurt and how hard work pays off. And which end of the cows to stay on. I feel bad when he gets crap on him.with all that said i am thankful to have a job to go to with the way the world is . and hope all the parents out there looking for work have luck finding some cause times are tough.
sam

[Casey Harner]

I disagree totally. Pretty shity parenting is what I blame it on. My kids are hard workers when i ask them to be and it is free. Sounds to me like you all gave to many time outs and not enough whippen because you love them. ( spare the rod spoil the child) it is written in red. You are only as good as the people who teach you!

I appreciated every single butt whooping I got now that I look back at. My mother ran the 4-H fair grounds. So my older brother and I was always out there early each morning feeding the pigs. I enjoyed it all the time. We were usually there from 5am-8pm. I was a ten year member. I didn't like it the 4-H program but enjoyed the time outdoors and the character I build through hard work.


My dad always says we all grow up from the lessons we learn. I agree with that.

[Salzer mtn]

I don't think the sky is going to fall, it's a phase that teenagers go through. As long as a kid will get a good education and when the time comes be responsible and go out into the world and get a job, then why not understand their just kids growing up. I heard this same crap when i was a kid, it's called generation gap. I went through the job hopping after i got out of school, i went through the rebellious years, but after i did a little bit of growing up i got a good job and worked at the same place for 32 years with a good retirement and the rest is history. I know that some kids will wind up being bums all their life but i blame alot of that on drugs and drink.

[bigdogpace]

GET THIS CARRIED MY 17 YR OLD TO BEACH TO RAKE LEAVES OUT OF OUR YARD A GIRL AFTER 10 MIN. SHE STOPPED AND SAID IF THE LORD DID'NT WANT THESE LEAVES ON GROUND HE WOULD'NT LET THEM FALL ITS NOT RIGHT TO GO AGAINST THE LORD LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL THEY LOOK ON THE GROUND. ITS A SIN TO RAKE THEM TO WHICH I REPLIED I'LL TAKE CARE OF THE LORD U JUST RAKE TO WHICH SHE SAID ALRIGHT BUT WHEN U WIND UP N THE BAD PLACE U CAN'T SAY I DID'NT WARN U LOL. THAT WAS BEST EXCUSE SHE EVER GAVE FOR NOT DOING SOMETHING. BELIEVE ME SHE HAD ALOT OF EXCUSE'S

[Newt]

And, I changed the post as to not paint with a broad brush....I too know a few, very few, high school kids who want to work. But, But....out of the 10 college/highschool students I highered last year here at work to do landscaping/roofing.....the supervisors only wanted ONE of them back this year, said the others were worthless, and they were....In fact we didn't hire any summer help this year because it was more work babysitting than it is worth.....these "kids" were being paid $10/hr for their efforts. Tells me it ain't just happening close to home....frustrating.

I met a beagler last year, about 40 years og age, who had been laid off from his manufacturing job. He signed up for an Air Conditioning Technician School at the local Techinical School. He is now knowledgeable enough to be sent our with another techinician student to repair units. He was telling me the other day that he always chooses another guy who is about thirty. He was encouraged by the instructor to select different students to accompany him on the job. He said when he is paired with a young guy just of of HS, they just stand in the shade on a cell phone while he works. He told the instructor that he would rather not be paired with the young sloths and the instructor agreed to let him make the selection.

TIme of change: Share your wealth.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

I know how the first post makes you feel. a similar situation has happened a few times with me but instead of negative i'll be positive.
i had my first son 3 months ago and i thank god every day for my baby sitter and mine and my wifes families. our baby sitter owns a dairy farm and takes my baby to the barn every day. they have no tv and four hard working children for him to grow up with. I know it cant be easy on him at 4:30 am when i wake him up to get ready to go to the sitters while my wife and i are getting ready for work. I hope he looks around and see's people around him trying to work hard for what they have. Also at the baby sitters he is going to learn where food comes from, there are boundries that if you cross them you will get hurt and how hard work pays off. And which end of the cows to stay on. I feel bad when he gets crap on him.with all that said i am thankful to have a job to go to with the way the world is . and hope all the parents out there looking for work have luck finding some cause times are tough.
sam

Ya know i admire any parent that is positive. I used to wear those glasses too, they are called rose colored. I spent my days w/ my dad in a tractor or a bulldozer, said they used to put me in a cardboard box set me on a D8 and i would sleep reckon they could get away with that now? I was raisied by hard working god fearing parents and was mortified of my father till he died in 1984 at 73 years of age, when he whispered it, i was jumping spent every sunday in a baptist church listening to the man with the gospel gun, turned out as i have aged to be my father made over, funny at 17 he was stupid at 47 he was right......Kids need to be shown its ok to hustle and work, i pay my boys to weedeat and mow why? I can. But if they want the latest and greatest gadgit , its not handed to em , they work it out at my house. My kids are all boys but the youngest emily has ol dad in a permanent headlock as she pisses and moans when it aint her way unfortunatley most the time it is .......But she also has chores such as picking up clothes off the floor, helping momma cook and going thru my pockets to steal dads change.We all agree about 1 thing they are only as sorry or good as we allow em to be, Fear God and Fear Dad, both can lay the rath on ya.

[JD Baisden]

It bothers me that this is titled "younger generation " I am a teacher and I can't tell you how many older lazy bum parents that come into my classroom and see so many people abusing welfare, food stamps and unemployment. Not to mention social security fraud, disability and countless others. THese are adults doing this and if we want kids to grow up right then we need to be the ones teaching them...

I know plenty hard working 10yr olds too....

This is why this country has so many illegals. They come to the U.S. and are willing to do the work the that these people won't. However they are learning that the goverment is willing to give them free money too.

[JD Baisden]

Ya know i admire any parent that is positive. I used to wear those glasses too, they are called rose colored. I spent my days w/ my dad in a tractor or a bulldozer, said they used to put me in a cardboard box set me on a D8 and i would sleep reckon they could get away with that now? I was raisied by hard working god fearing parents and was mortified of my father till he died in 1984 at 73 years of age, when he whispered it, i was jumping spent every sunday in a baptist church listening to the man with the gospel gun, turned out as i have aged to be my father made over, funny at 17 he was stupid at 47 he was right......Kids need to be shown its ok to hustle and work, i pay my boys to weedeat and mow why? I can. But if they want the latest and greatest gadgit , its not handed to em , they work it out at my house. My kids are all boys but the youngest emily has ol dad in a permanent headlock as she pisses and moans when it aint her way unfortunatley most the time it is .......But she also has chores such as picking up clothes off the floor, helping momma cook and going thru my pockets to steal dads change.We all agree about 1 thing they are only as sorry or good as we allow em to be, Fear God and Fear Dad, both can lay the rath on ya. [/quote]

My dad is a very black and white person, what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong, he has no gray area. My dad had a couple of sayings that he used when he raised my brother and me. 1) Jump when he said jump, if you had to ask how high then you would be picking yourself up off the ground 2) If you screwed up then he would say "Your a$$ is grass and I'm the lawn mower". My brother and I found ourselves on the wrong end of the belt or paddle way to often (slooooow learners), but me and him have all ways had jobs and worked hard to keep them.

[NoBull]

Long ago I figured out a trend if you look close people are like dogs if you breed a lazy dog to a good dog you get mostly lazy dogs same with people if 2 lazy bums cross up you can bet the kids probably going to be lazy.
Not saying this is 100% the reason kids are lazy in todays world often most parents have to work and the cheapest baby sitter is a tv so the kid doesn't get to have a good role model all they see is Jackass and whatever other crap is on tv.

I know of families that have never had a job for more then 5 years they grow up get pregnant at 15-16 drop out of school and get on welfare put a trailer in next to there parents and the cycle just continues.
The thing is unlike dogs in America we keep our culls and send our best off to die in wars our highschool drop outs that wont work stay at home while our graduates die to protect them. It's a sad truth but like Bill Gates said we put our technical factories in other countries because America wont supply a solid work force anymore.

I strongly feel the military is a good place for kids I think every kid should go for at least 2 years after they graduate high school or college and for kids that drop out 4 years. They will learn viable skills that can be used to improve a our own work force.

When I was young I was a bit on the wild side but I had 2 parents that wouldn't even bat an eye about givin me a whoopin one of the worst things my mama could say to me is wait till your father gets home it's was better to take a beatin from her cause my daddy was a construction worker for 25 years and still works to this day I swear that man has hands made of iron. To this day that man can speak and I will do my best to make it happen.

Just my 2 cents sorry for venting this subject came up with a friend of mine and started a heck of an argument.

[Salzer mtn]

I figured this was going to be a political post. I live on top of a mountain. After you get on top, from one side it is about twenty miles till you start going off the other side. Their is a town in the valleys on both sides. When i was a kid, most if not all the woman worked in the shirt factory or the holsier mill. One time i got to counting from one end of the mountain to the next the men that actually had a job that you punched a clock. It was very very few. Most of them said they didn't want to punch a clock. So they did work of their choosing, like farmimg, sawmill work, making whiskey ect. The families that wanted something in life went north to factory's where they paid good wages. My parents moved to Muncie Indiana. The schools down south at that time were two room school buildings, no pluming, outside bathrooms, coal stoves. Their was no reason why that kids would have to go to schools like this. Well you might say they didn't have the money. No they probably didn't after the dads spent all the weeks money on booze on the weekends. As people was back then so they are now.

[Dale L.]

It is sad. We blame it on the younger generation. The teenagers and such. But unfortunately it goes all the way to the generation that is in the workforce now. Now I am not saying everyone in this age group is lazy so please do not take offense heck I am 31. But these kids have got to be picking up their lazy do nothing attitude from somewhere. People would rather get ahead in the work force these days by making friends with someone who can help them and slashing the throat of those who can't. I want to be judged on my work performance rather than how much I act like I love the bosses. Now I am not sayin you should disrespect your boss. They are the boss and you should do what they ask. However I will not treat him as if he is a higher being than the guy workin by my side just because he can promote me someday. "Brother if I didnt earn it. I dont want it. That way I can always say I got it honest." By the way if you are payin 25 dollars an hour I will come work for ya. LOL!

[Ohiohntr]

Long ago I figured out a trend if you look close people are like dogs if you breed a lazy dog to a good dog you get mostly lazy dogs.

That is the case here....didn't come from our side of the family and sis can't put the smack down by herself. Like I say, the writing was on the wall long ago...I am a sucker for trying to help, when I should really just keep to myself.

Here is a little story about two highschool (seniors) that we hired last summer....believe me it is true and I witnessed it....figured you guys would enjoy it.

Ding and Dong (as we called them after this shear act of intelligence) were to paint jersey barriers (highway dividers) yellow, not a hard concept....ok, I line up paint, rollers, and brushes....I give them the pretty simple instructions and ask if there are any questions and tell them I will check in on them in a few hours. Several hours pass and I decide I better check on their progress......I pull around the shop and see that they had decided to go find black spray paint in the shop and paint "Jaque #32" and "Marquis #24" on the barriers....not just one barrier, ALL 50 of them...lol. Now, I'm not sure what to say to these dipwads at this point other than "wtf could going possibly be going through you two idiots heads".....they were like "what, we can paint right over it".....So I calmly explain to them that from my standpoint I just paid you guys $160 in labor to paint your f'n names and basketball numbers on our property.....they looked at me with blank stares and said...."well you don't have to get mad about it, we will fix it tomorrow". Ok, the next day rolls around.....I say, "Go get your f'n names off of the barriers".....Now here is where you are going to laugh.....Three hours later I check on them and they had found ANOTHER black can of spray paint in the shop and proceeded to spray over their names rather than just painting the dang barriers yellow. I can't help but laugh about that story because to this day I can't believe two 18 year olds could really be that stupid.

[hounddog]

I strongly feel the military is a good place for kids I think every kid should go for at least 2 years after they graduate high school or college and for kids that drop out 4 years. They will learn viable skills that can be used to improve a our own work force.

NoBull, I totally agree! When I got out of High School, I was headed for a path of destruction. I was scared of no one and had a chip on my shoulders that a plow horse couldn't carry. At that time I was married, had a very young daughter and no job. I lived with my dad. One day I woke up and said, I't time to man up. I joined the Army. The first day I stepped off that bus at Boot Camp in Fort Knox, Ky, a Drill Sargent put the fear of God in me.
Since then, I became a man of great respect for what I was put on this earth for and I would hate to think where I would be if it weren't for the military and that first encounter with a Drill sargent. A little history on the life of ol' hounddog!

BTW I did 9 years in the military until I became disabled. I still work 40 hours a week and work a farm as well.
hounddog
Jim Umbarger

[johnny]

Im 14 years old and all summer long I am out doing odd jobs cutting weeds, mowing grass, landscaping, and many other things. If I do not earn my own money I have no way of feeding my dogs or entering them in trials or buying gas for my rhino to run my dogs. I don'tlike work one bit but I know that I have to do it!

[Casey Harner]

Jd,


It seemed that my a$$ was addicted to the belt. They both had a relationship. I to was a slow learner always testing how the water felt. Dad had two belts named after my brother and I. It both said our name on it. Dad had to buy a new one for my butt. It wore out and broke lol....


I love these kind of threads. Brings memories back and laughs as well.