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Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:54 am
by Joeyman
I have a dog right now that sits down on me and whines because her tail is hurting her. She will sit down and lick at it. Its interrupting her hunting and I don't like it one bit. Her tail is going to get banded

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:26 pm
by S.R.Patch
I see what you guys are saying, and if your little hounds require their tails be docked to be functional hunting companions, then so be it.
It is the same with those who are soft-footed and must wear boots. jmho

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:40 pm
by cris axtell/coal hill ken
I would rather duct tape the end of the tail then mutilate my dog. JMO I have no problem with any one else doing it if that what works for them.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:53 pm
by snowshoehareguide
im thinking that what and how far , how often may have more to to do with tails bleeding- than breeding for a standard- -- if a dog had more hair than some of my beagles it wouldnt be a beagle-- any that dont have thick coat and hide dont stay here long--- its a pretty important trait in the winter here--- i put flaps on dog houses at last possible time and feed them zinc gluconate in an effort to increase hair - some look like sheep- :D i do notice that i have a few dogs that go hunting everytime i go- those are the ones that can have big problems with tails bleeding--- if i breed any it would be those--- so i guess i been breeding and selecting for bloody tails all along - :D

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:56 pm
by snowshoehareguide
now feet that is another story--- i agree with you on feet-- i dont do boots- :D

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:48 pm
by S.R.Patch
I guess if the tail is of proper set, length and brush, the main culprit might be the dreaded "busy tail syndrome". Some hounds, carry their tails high, some low. Some whip side to side, some whirl like a gyro-copter taking off. Tail action, like a too freely wagging tongue can come at a cost. :biggrin: jmho

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:32 pm
by APFII
If I looked at a litter of pups and they all had docked tales, I would wonder if they might be hiding a genetic problem of kinked or bad curl tale. Leave it up to the buyer if he wants to dock a tale.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:52 pm
by BCBeagles
That is not an option...they will be docked....just so folks know if they book a pup.... for future reference.....

Its my preference....nothing else...and I like the looks of it...just like others have there preference on colors and such....

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:01 pm
by Joeyman
APFII wrote:If I looked at a litter of pups and they all had docked tales, I would wonder if they might be hiding a genetic problem of kinked or bad curl tale. Leave it up to the buyer if he wants to dock a tale.

Its done at 3 days old. I normally take about 3/8inch off.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:18 pm
by jt's kennel
I understand docking a tail that hinders ones hunt, but I would disagree with automatically docking pups tails. I understand that's your opinion that it looks better, it is my opinion that it looks terrible on a beagle and it straying away from breed standard.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:58 am
by BCBeagles
So I won't expect your call to book a pup...thanks for your opinion.

It has NOTHING to do with a breed standard...NOTHING to do with hiding genetic flaws....it is my personal choice and if you don't like it PLEASE don't call me about a pup or young dog you are looking to buy. Just another way I can weed out tire kickers....if you are serious and want to talk dogs and SEE dogs run then you will call and come evaluate the dogs...not there tails....lol.

ALL pups from my dogs will have there tail DOCKED at 1 wk old, and dew claws removed, front and back.....

This is an instance where a breed standard can be altered(by choice) and I could care less what the book says about it, I am referring to tail length ONLY....I WANT FUNCTIONALITY.....other things have definite purposes. I can't see where tail length changes any functionality of the dog other than beneficially.

Please explain to me the advantages of a full length tail other than looks and what a book says it should look like? Thank you as always! I am always open to listen...

Again...thanks for the opinions and for those that disagree...thanks for saving me time on the phone or in the field with someone who doesn't like the choice of docking tails....I am not saying this as a smart butt...I genuinely thank you for your opinion and stance on this.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:54 am
by gunslinger
Well that's a stinking shame that I may want a pup out of Walker and have to buy a pup I don't like the looks of because the owner was so arrogant. I hunt a dog with a docked tail but it's. Docked because she was born with a crooked one. I really just think you got a sorry attitude about the whole deal, and no I won't be booking a pup.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:57 am
by Joeyman
if you take 3/8 off at 3 days old I think they look perfect when they are 8wks old and also as adult beagle. Are you guys thinking they will have a half a tail or less? that's not the case.

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:13 am
by BCBeagles
Has nothing to do with arrogance....I am sorry if this is offensive to some. Ignorance of how a proper docking is done is the case as Joey explains...

Heck Walker has a docked tail himself...lol. Sure didn't hurt his results....

If you would like pics of some that are grown I can text them to you.....Most people can only tell they have a shorter tail.

And if I wanted a pup off of any dog....the owner of the dog OWNS everyone of those pups until I pick it up...if I don't want it then I simply would not buy it....I would not get offended by it....again...my choice.

Sorry...thanks and take care!

Re: I've Grown to HATE a full length tail on a beagle!!

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:48 pm
by sammiller03
I have never seen a docked tail hurt a dog but I have seen a full length tail. If we cant alter a beagle to improve performance why do we remove dew claws? it seems simple to me Jim will be docking tails,so if interested in a pup from Jim its tail will be docked. if you don't agree with this , move on and buy a dog elsewhere.