arha lp and oversized dogs

MURL-BEAGLER · Post by **MURL-BEAGLER** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:10 pm

ARHA keeps getting compared to other formats all the time. If you think AKC has the better format, go run it. But these are ARHA rules, and if we are going to run it then we must go by their rules. This has already been dicussed time and time again. I say leave LP, LP, and if you don't like it, there is other formats to run.

yellowdog · Post by **yellowdog** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:11 pm

in my opinion it is not the size of the dog it is the desire and brains the dog has ...i could truly care less what size dog i run against but some folks do care...and as long as there are some that do care and a rule is a rule there will always be this debate...everyone will want to push the height limit as much as possible...boys i dont care if your dog is 18 inches tall if he aint got his head on right he is gonna get a whoopin by a 13 incher...i have seen alot of tall speedy hounds that couldnt solo a rabbit to save their butt...i have some that are 15...i just prefer 13 ...and i will continue to run my 13 whether everybody run coonhounds or foxhounds or whatever if them big hounds aint got the power and the brains to put it all together they will fall regardless of size...and everytime somebody has a hound measured at a trial they are looked at as a$$holes well the rule is there and it is there option to do so...thats all i got to say about that...tracy

Mapel Valley Kennels LLC. · Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:22 pm

MURL-BEAGLER wrote:ARHA keeps getting compared to other formats all the time. If you think AKC has the better format, go run it. But these are ARHA rules, and if we are going to run it then we must go by their rules. This has already been dicussed time and time again. I say leave LP, LP, and if you don't like it, there is other formats to run.

Thank You Sweet Jesus. Who Cares?

J.C. Blair · Post by **J.C. Blair** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:01 pm

Keep on beating that dead horse and see where it goes. Nowhere! Run em if you got em.

Shoot to kill,
Blair

yellowdog · Post by **yellowdog** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:04 pm

let the little dogs eat....lmao...bring on them race horses...

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:20 pm

this was intended as a topic for discussion,some people had some interesting input such as an official mesurement,and an official way to measuring a dog.

the thing is there are a lot of dogs out there that are right there at 15 inches,i have one,all it takes is one person measuring him different at a hunt and he is disqualified,we have measured him over and over,if we measure him the way the rules say he should be measured,he is right at 14 7/8 - 15 and sometimes 15 1/8,you measure a dog over and over you don't get the same measurement every time.

all i was wanting is input,this forrum is the best voice to make suggestions,i have been told by people from arha and nkc that they do pay attention to topics on here.

what would it hurt for arha to have an official measurement,why should someone have to wonder weather or not they should put time into a dog cause it is right there cloae to 15?

i'm not talkin about tryin to show up with a 17 in dog and enter it,that not it,i am talkin about dogs right there borderline 15,and everyone either has one or knows someone who has one right there at that touchy size,so why not have the official measurement rule,otherwise,all it takes is three times over in a year and it is banned for life.

i am not compairing lp to any other format,i am making a suggestion and a post for discussion,as usual though,you always have the same people tryin to provoke arguments and making remarks about whining instead of doing like others have and giving intelligent input and their oppinion.

yellowdog · Post by **yellowdog** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:23 pm

just cut off their darn tails and they will lose a half inch right then.

Mapel Valley Kennels LLC. · Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:24 pm

Hey vansickle or wabbithunter whom ever you is. This has been beat to death please move on my friend.Run em if ya got em. If my dog looks big to ya measure him if he measures in then ur the fool , if they are over 15 i will wait till the next round.

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:31 pm

i is who i is,jimbo!!!!

i have never,ever measured a dog and can honestly say,i never will.

how about puttin a stop to this bickering and just give input?

no,you can't resist causing trouble,your like a lil bullie on the playground,you know the ones that after you graduuate are known for one great sayin

would you like fries with that??????????

beagler282 · Post by **beagler282** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:05 pm

Here is some input to the measurement of hounds.

1) All hounds should be measured at the time they are registered with the ARHA and the measurement written on the registration form signed by the breed inspector that measured them.
2) All hounds should be measured before becoming a Champion and also a Grand Champion and the measurement written down by the breed inspector and sent in.
3) When measured by the breed inspector the hound WILL NOT be stacked before measuring the hound.(meaning you can not put your hand under the hound to lift him).The hound is to be in a natural stance and measured at the withers.
4) If at any one of these times the hound is measured over 15" he will not be registered or move up to Ch. or Gr.Ch.

Some dogs can be measured early in age and be ok but when they get ready to become Ch or Gr Ch they can measure over.Put this into the rules along with being able to measure hounds at the hunts and less dogs over 15'' will be competeing.

If people choose to compete in ARHA events with their hounds there are rules to follow and abide by as with ALL registries. Find one that has the rules to suit you and the style of hound you like to run.

Food for thought!

Mapel Valley Kennels LLC. · Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:23 pm

Would i like fries with that, thats funny danny. Looks like you have ate a couple sacks in the day.Are ya one if those that super size it with a diet sprite?I aint gonna pee down your back wabbithunter , all i am saying is
rules are rules. As murl says it has always been 15. Now if somebody measures my dogs out i will judge a round. As far as the bully remark?
I aint no bullie but have earned respect of several of my peers with sportmanship and respect . So the next time you want too start on somebody it aint me brother. What do you do for a living anyway?

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:52 pm

i subcontract roof work from b and t roofing and allied roofing in columbus ohio,i have two crews working under me.

i also buy and re sale salvage autos to suplement my income,you can find me at auto auctions in the great state of kentucky every week.

i also run an online distribution selling various items on ebay,drv distributing,my dad handles most of it but i supply the funds to back him to buy what items he needs at bulk and he resales them online.

i breed and sell english bulldogs,and old english bulldogs at 1,000 to 1,500 or more a pup,i have two pet stores that buy pups from me as quick as i can ween them.

so,now i have answered your question,now as usual,you have caused yet another topic to go south as you usually do,tell me jimmie,why so sore towards me?what habve i done to you?

bradadkins · Post by **bradadkins** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:57 pm

beagler282

Great post..I agree totally. Sounds like a very good idea to me.

I personally run big 15 inch dogs..I like em.

I feel if the rules say 15 I want as close to it as I can. Somebody is gonna have a big fast dog..might as well be me

Brad

mobeagler · Post by **mobeagler** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:59 pm

I think you said his dog won because of cheating.

danny vansickle · Post by **danny vansickle** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:13 pm

mobeagler wrote:I think you said his dog won because of cheating.

yeah well people accused reggie and dozer won by buddie judging,you see kevin and tom floyd on here pickin fights every chance they get?no

i am so sick of the same thing every day on here from the same group,people can't have a civil discussion without the same guys comin in here and blowin it up,you all are so pathetic,and you all say i whine

who was it came in here and bitched and whined because a couple guys wanted to have the redneck nats with out him till it was canceled?

ok boys,keep on bashin,i am outta here,time for a long hiatis again,you all kill me,carlisle ky has a hunt this saturday,why not show up and run your dogs instead of your mouths?