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rabbitearl wrote:
Now for yall that think, cause it don t hunt wide it don t hunt.Your wrong on this one.
We aren't wrong we just disagree Here's a question for you, if you hunt in a spot that doesn't have rabbits within 100 yds of the road would you rather have your dog range further or would you prefer to have him quit searching? If the cover is so thick you can't walk through it you need your dog to go in and chase the rabbits out, this is common in Maine the hare may be well over 100 yds from you but it only takes a hare less than a minute to cover 100 yds to cross the road in front of you. Apparently us Norfers' just do it different than Southerners do. If I had a dog that didn't range more than 100 yds I wouldn't be happy with their hunt.
Our cover is so thick and the cottontail just don't move. You can shoot rabbits all day with a good jump dog and every rabbit be jumped within a 200 yard cirle. Now you'll have to move to shoot the rabbits, But after the rabbit is killed you can put the dog back in the same circle and there still rabbits there. I don't have a good jump dog yet. my find a trail and jump it that way most time. The point is the dogs need to take time to search every piece of cover and depression.
Sorry don t know nothing about a hare.I have heard they are already up before the dogs get there.But most of these cotton tail want move till you or a dog steps on them.That dog has to hunt left and right every foot.Yell we are two different hunters and two different rabbits.You like your to hunt that far and if my don t jump one before they get that far I don t like there hunt.Were just different not saying one is better than the other.
rabbitearl wrote:
Now for yall that think, cause it don t hunt wide it don t hunt.Your wrong on this one.
We aren't wrong we just disagree Here's a question for you, if you hunt in a spot that doesn't have rabbits within 100 yds of the road would you rather have your dog range further or would you prefer to have him quit searching? If the cover is so thick you can't walk through it you need your dog to go in and chase the rabbits out, this is common in Maine the hare may be well over 100 yds from you but it only takes a hare less than a minute to cover 100 yds to cross the road in front of you. Apparently us Norfers' just do it different than Southerners do. If I had a dog that didn't range more than 100 yds I wouldn't be happy with their hunt.
It's not that they don't hunt. It's that they have to hunt a lot in a small area. You can't hunt an area bigger than five acres properly in a day.
WE HAVE SPOTS THAT YOU WONT JUMP A RABBIT UNLESS YOU DOG WILL GET DEEP IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REAL JUMP DOG AND YOURS FEET WARMERS WONT STAND A CHANCE ON OUR STATE GROUND
Shotgun John said, "It's not that they don't hunt. It's that they have to hunt a lot in a small area. You can't hunt an area bigger than five acres properly in a day."
Man, that would be a dream. I agree with Chapko, in Michigan's state lands where I hunt, 5 acres won't last 5 minutes. We have to cover a lot of ground to find a rabbit. Especially this time of year. Hunt, hunt, hunt. They have to hunt and get in the brush hard.
rabbitearl wrote:
Now for yall that think, cause it don t hunt wide it don t hunt.Your wrong on this one.
We aren't wrong we just disagree Here's a question for you, if you hunt in a spot that doesn't have rabbits within 100 yds of the road would you rather have your dog range further or would you prefer to have him quit searching? If the cover is so thick you can't walk through it you need your dog to go in and chase the rabbits out, this is common in Maine the hare may be well over 100 yds from you but it only takes a hare less than a minute to cover 100 yds to cross the road in front of you. Apparently us Norfers' just do it different than Southerners do. If I had a dog that didn't range more than 100 yds I wouldn't be happy with their hunt.
It's not that they don't hunt. It's that they have to hunt a lot in a small area. You can't hunt an area bigger than five acres properly in a day.
Come to Maine sometime and see how many hare you kill in a 5 acre patch I'll keep doing it wrong an hunt my wide running beagles and as far as distance let me put it this way. I'll park my truck in the AM and when I'm ready to quit at the end of the day it's not uncommon to have 3+ miles to get back to the truck according to my gps. When I run at the beagle club in the summer it's not uncommon to have a hare cover the entire 100 acre running pen in a chase.
Dixiedog I understand, But Sams not going to be hare hunting(at least as far as I know). I have to cover ground to get rabbits up because my dogs trail the rabbits up. You put a jump dog down and he will find plenty of rabbits that a trailing dog misses. Hopefully I'll get one or two out of one of my pups.
to each his own you hunt wide open we hunt so thick you cant see 5 ft in front of you we dont see the rabbit until it crosses the path or runs out into the edge of the briars then darts back in and believe me we have jump dogs the kind who tear their tails up,scratch their eyes so bad it takes a day for them to be able to open them after hunting,so believe you me we know what a jumpdog is and we all have at least 1 most of us have 4 or 5 the dogs down here dont just run ass wide open until they smell a track they have to get down in the canebreaks to root them out.and in the bushes our rabbits sit tight until the dog bounces them out,(definition of a jump dog, a dog that searches for in any type of briars,brush,under growth,swamp,ditch,old drain pipe,and even be able to shi# a rabbit and run it ,thats what we call a jump dog!!!!!!)
good post ed,if a dog has already covered the area around you,it should be smart enough to go a lil futher to find a rabbit other then wait around on you,but thing is this,just like ice cream,everyone likes a different flavor,that doesnt make them wrong,hunt what ya like,i feal that if they are jumpin rabbits,it is ok in my book
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MOST OF YOUR HOUND WOULD NOT MAKE IT AROUND HERE. THEY MIGHT NOT GO DEEP ENOUGH,BUT I BET EVERYONE OF MINE HOUNDS WOULD MAKE IT WHERE YOU LIVE. WHAT DOG WONT RUN A RABBIT 5 FEET OFF THE TRAIL. IT IS THE ONES THAT KNOCK DOWN THE BRUSH AND CAN JUMP THE ONES DEEP TOO THAT IMPRESS ME
ok and I bet you have the best dogs in michigan please bring some down here to the lowgrounds in nc and show us what a real rabbit dog is because we sure thought we had some for the last 45 years and the people in new hampshire who hunt at Drummond island sure likes them they buy everyone of our culls to run hare with up there and have for the last 20 years but I just have biscuit eaters that just lay around until they smell a biscuit but I will keep feeding them and maybe one day when I can figure out how to run a video or get sand ridge to video my dogs you could evaluate them for me and tell me where we have been going wrong and what a real jump dog is supposed to be like,or how about a dog that never opens until the rabbit is up and 9 times out of 10 if she jumps it she catches it before it leaves the bed and brings it to you now that old girl is a real rabbit dog but we do not hunt her much because the guys get mad because she kills more than they do combined,now that is what we call a meat dog,so just come on down and spend the weekend with all accomidations taken care of and show us some real RABBIT DAWGS.
Here's a question for you, if you hunt in a spot that doesn't have rabbits within 100 yds of the road would you rather have your dog range further or would you prefer to have him quit searching? If the cover is so thick you can't walk through it you need your dog to go in and chase the rabbits out, this is common in Maine the hare may be well over 100 yds from you but it only takes a hare less than a minute to cover 100 yds to cross the road in front of you. Apparently us Norfers' just do it different than Southerners do. If I had a dog that didn't range more than 100 yds I wouldn't be happy with their hunt.
I'll keep doing it wrong an hunt my wide running beagles and as far as distance let me put it this way. I'll park my truck in the AM and when I'm ready to quit at the end of the day it's not uncommon to have 3+ miles to get back to the truck according to my gps. When I run at the beagle club in the summer it's not uncommon to have a hare cover the entire 100 acre running pen in a chase.
i would jump in tonight and come on down for a morning run i just dont know if i would make it 