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Yes, I know the running grounds. The point I'm trying to make is a saying a beagle is doing it's job is very vague. It would also be relative to what is expected of a hound and what each owner can or can not tolerate.
I did notice in the photos a dog is wide in the check area.
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Windkist wrote: There was one in trouble all the time.. hmmm I can't remember his name although he was called enough you'd think I should This seminar was held in Aldie Va at the NBC grounds. I'd love to come sometime for the triple Challenge ;-)
Leah
His name was something like gasoline or gas line or something like that and we all laughed at him. He was a cute goofy hound and had typical hound hearing disabilities
Leah and I both have field beaglers for friends and we know plenty of them that like the look of conformation beagles. You might also be surprised how many field type hounds actually show in AKC. Show Beagles definitly don't all look like perfectly pretty cookie cutters. There are some bad a$$ed lookin hounds in the rings often enough...look like they'd hunt down a bunny and rip it to peices...and if they can move they win plenty...we have SOME old beaglers with field backgrounds judging AKC conformation. Dr. Berndt is one.
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PS: Jude, your red & white (or tan & white) puppy is very typey and cute. To show in conformation he looks to me like he could use a little more muzzle, for a male in the showring, but otherwise he looks like a typical (typical = type) Beagle puppy of decent breeding.
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Incahoots wrote:Yes, I know the running grounds. The point I'm trying to make is a saying a beagle is doing it's job is very vague. It would also be relative to what is expected of a hound and what each owner can or can not tolerate.
I did notice in the photos a dog is wide in the check area.
I'm certainly not disagreeing with you. However I think you were trying to trick me ;-) thats ok! I really am in the learning stages as it applies to hunting beagles. You know what my point was
All of it is subjective and open to interpretation. That includes what you see as far as conformation and ability.
Those two definitly look like Beagles that bunny doesn't look well though
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It is kind of interesting there is a post on the ukc message board that is similar to this looks vs hunt correct form and function vs heart etc. Thing is I have seen alot of dogs that can perform well in both. I do think that some people do hurt the sport by breeding dogs strictly for looks. Not to offend anyone else or what they like but for me personally beagles as a breed are hunting hounds first show hounds secound It is hard for me to beleive when the first beagles were created that a few guys were standing around saying lets go with the tri color with the nice head and ear set over the blue tick that ran a hare or fox to a gun. Again not trying to make anyone mad i know it takes a rediculous amount of work to make a hound perform well in the ring as well as in the feild.
breed what you like you have to feed it stop worrying about trying to persuade others that what you breed is the best
I got an ugly old hound i would like ya to take a look at and tell me if he could do anything in the ring
Don't be too hard on Leah guys . She's just voicing her opinion and I'm just having some fun . I thought she was gonna take some heat . These show and show/field breeders friends on here have always been very helpful any time I needed advice .
NoBull wrote:Not to offend anyone else or what they like but for me personally beagles as a breed are hunting hounds first show hounds secound It is hard for me to beleive when the first beagles were created that a few guys were standing around saying lets go with the tri color with the nice head and ear set over the blue tick that ran a hare or fox to a gun.
LOL! I hear ya there!!! But it's almost 2008..times have changed a lot in most parts of the country
Post a picture of that ugly old hound. I love ugly old hounds, just not ugly young ones
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Oakhill, I know the beagle color codes. But I do not see grey anywhere on there. The grey pups I am talking about are the ones that we have been seeing alot of photos on here lately (old brain is thinking Buzz, but not sure). marked like a tricolor, but their black is grey. I would not consider them blue because you have blues and they they dont look anything like that. I want to know which code they are using on those papers.
Leah if your really hungry for rabbits, this guy keeps the freezer full. Come on over next time your in the area. I would never dream of trying to take him into the ring. But he sure knows what his job on earth is.
The actual color for my hounds is black ticked but akc has made a special color for them with the color code 029, black, tan, blueticked or the tri code with the ticked as markings. Where as the gray pups are considered blue. The blue or gray hounds tend to have more skin problems such as demodectic mange and other allergies. I have seen several with this and have seen some that don't have any problems at all. It is for this reason I would never bred a blue aka gray hound.
I think the blue color is more associated with alopecia (no hair) than mange. I do have blue running through my lines and I have had 1 puppy born here that was blue. He was pretty but, I sold him as a pet.