Another Puppy Mill Litter

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:12 pm

4 Males.

coyote hunter · Post by **coyote hunter** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:20 pm

Why would you say that???I wouldn't think a mill would put the time or money in making a box like that ????Just wondering.

magic_rabbit_hunter · Post by **magic_rabbit_hunter** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:10 am

What exactly is a puppy mill?

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:07 am

This is my second litter this year. I just wanted to head off some of the Smarty pants.

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:08 am

Magic, A puppy mill is a place that breeds dogs just to sell. They dont care if they are worth anything for hunting, as long as they make money.

AlabamaSwamper · Post by **AlabamaSwamper** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:02 am

Why would anyone think you are a puppy mill?

I'm one the biggest voices against them and I certainly don't think you are.

BTW, just selling pups does not make one a puppy mill. Having dozens of litters out of "brood" bitches is what makes a puppy mill. Why anyone would buy a puppy out of a worthless female that can't run her tail still puzzles me. Even someone who breeds multiple litters a year isn't a puppy mill, if they have good intentions of rebuilding their pack, adding to "their" pack and bettering the breed.

Folks that breed lots of litters every year for no reason but to sell them is ridiculous, IMHO and I wouldn't buy a paperclip from them. lol

BTW Mike, nice pups!

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:13 am

Swamper, thanks. I know Im not a mill. That female loves people so much she will jump up and leave her pups just to get a pat on the head!
BTW, I would love to try her on Swampers someday.

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:31 pm

Nice litter Mike!

magic_rabbit_hunter · Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:55 pm

Well now that I know what a puppy mill is....Nice looking pups!!!

MrJ · Post by **MrJ** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:59 am

Mike nice looking pups. I've got a litter 5 weeks old and two more litters on the way so I got you beat on the puppy Mill thing. Do you keep all your dogs? I normally keep two or three out of each litter that I really like and sell the rest. My plan with the three litters I bred this year was to keep two out of each litter and give two away to a buddy who's starting out. Sell the rest and pay for my breaking pen fees, shots and so on for the rest. When I get the dogs back out of the pen in December/January I normally Pick the top two unless there all exceptional and sell the rest as light broke dogs. Never had any of my dogs not run coming out of the pen and if they did they would be put down. I like the idea that it keeps my cost down and leaves me in a postion to evaluate and end up with the best dogs out of the bunch. I find if I do this with two litters a year and sell off my 6 and 7 year old dogs as they get repalced by better yonger dogs It cost me little or nothing to keep the dogs and I end up with a better pack of dogs. Some people will tag you as puppy milling if you raise more that one litter a year but I call it efiecient Rabbit Hunting as long as your breeding to better your stock and pack.

Have a good one

Bobby

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:11 am

I am keeping 3 maybe 4 out of the 1st litter.

I wont get to keep but 1 out of the second. 1 is going for Stud fee 1 to Bopeye, and 1 to a friend I run with.Atleast if this is a great cross both dogs can breed for several years.