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Shock collars or not

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:56 pm
by JovanJ
i was wondering who doesnt use shock collars and how do you prevent them from running off game

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:03 pm
by beerdrinking bob
i didnt use them for along time. boy i wish i had them back then. hard to tell how many good hounds i wouldve had. its hard to break dogs off trash without them. i dont have an answer for your question but i would recomend you buy a set of tritronics. classic 70 is a good choice. used sets are fairly affordable.

training dogs

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:11 pm
by Roy Pasmore
Before electrionics It was A big stick lots of shoe leather and straight company.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:46 pm
by beerdrinking bob
good point roy i used my lead strap alot. never did me anygood. cant beat a shock collar

shock collars

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:38 am
by Larry G
I'm about to go buy a set of Tritronics, and can't decide between Classic 70 and Trashbreakers. Anybody feel like the Classic 70 is not strong enough to break Beagles off of deer, or wish they had bought the Trashbreakers?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:23 am
by BJK
Larry,

Initially I bought the 70, then for no apparent reason other than range, I decided that I wanted the Trashbreaker. My first year dogs wore the collars. There was not one time when I pressed the button when those dogs were no more than 100 yards away. If I had to do it again, I would buy the 70. The only difference is distance. A lot depends on the terrain that you hunt and run in. If it's flat terrain you won't need as much range. If you're in the mountains you may want all the range you can get.


BJK

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:37 am
by S.R.Patch
Deer never really showed up here until the mid-50's. We only had collars for the last 15 years here. Before, we ran young hounds in the open fields & drainage ditches, and with straight hounds only, until they were about 3 years old. Never went to the woods where the deer were in numbers. Our luck was to always have the hounds well set on rabbit and at a mature age before we took them to the woods.
My one uncle, on the other hand, always ran the woods and left his hounds run unsupervised at night, but then, he was always beating them for running riot too.
I believe hounds are alot like childern in the respect that, if you bring them up on the path they should follow, they'll not stray far from it when older... ;)

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:46 am
by beerdrinking bob
i jump as many deer as i do rabbits. i had a man tell me that if a young dog wont run a deer the dog wont be much count. there is an awful lot of sent there for a young dog not to want it. im glad now that i have shock collars. nothing worse then a good deer chase.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:50 am
by BJK
Patch,

It must have been nice to be able to run places where there were no deer. We probably have more deer than rabbits. I don't know of any place that I can go without deer being there.

I remember years ago when I bought my first, the 100LR. All my buddies laughed. They joked saying, "what's that a radio, you talk into the remote and tell your dog where to hunt." LOL!!! Well, the tables have turned. I don't know of any rabbit hunter that doesn't have remote trainers.

Personally, I couldn't do without them.

BJK

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:57 am
by S.R.Patch
Hi Nate,
Yes, the deer are everywhere now. but the open fields let you have the advantage of "seeing and nipping it in the bud" quick when it fist starts.
Thats the advantage of the collar, you can make that first experience a bad one, for a young hound and, just at the rght time. After he's come off track, is to late for him to understand an associate the correction with the offence .
Like children, stern correction is not soon forgotten by young hounds, but it must always be understood, consistent and justly aplied to them.
An abused hound, like an abused child is a sad sight and inexcusable.

We have anywhere from 11 to 15 does that feed most every evening out front of the house in the pasture.
My brother saw a cougar cross the road last week. As long as these deer are keeping him fed, maybe he will leave the young calves alone.
My neighbor says he's running alot of cats with his coonhounds. They will tree, then, just before they get to the tree, the hounds will fire hard and off the go again. When the cat see's the lights of the men coming, he bails from the tree and is off again. A few miles of this and your calling and catching up the hounds.
Life is turning wild again... :D

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:48 am
by beerdrinking bob
s.r. patch what state do you live in?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:26 pm
by JovanJ
how much would a 70 cost for 2 dogs

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:39 pm
by Huntin54
Classic 70 2 dog is $429.

I found this on Lion Country Supply.
http://www.lcsupply.com/Brand/TriTronics-Collars/

I have bought shock collars and other things from them and they are first class.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:41 pm
by JovanJ
thats not very expensive thats good and what food do you prefer and what should i look for

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:02 pm
by beerdrinking bob
jovan you can find used 2 dog sets for $200-$250 most of the time they're like new. i feed pride in the green bag