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WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:17 am
by rabbitsmoker
HOW MANY RUN SHOCKING COLLARS ON THIER DOGS ALL THIER LIFE ARE DO YOU I BELIEVE WITH MY EXPERIANCE IF I RAISE THEM AFTER TRAINING AND BREAKING IVE NEVER HAD TO HAVE THOSE TO HAVE TO WEAR ONE ALL THE TIME I KNOW THERE IS EXCEPTIONS IF YOU BUY OLDER DOGS. PERSONALLY THATS ALL I USE MINE FOR IS TRAINING THEM I BELIEVE IF ONE GOTS TO WEAR IT ALL THIER LIFE THIER BROKE TO THE COLLAR NOT OFF WHAT THER DOIN. IM NOT A TRIALER BUT I DONT THINK THEY CAN WEAR ONE WHILE AT THE TRIAL SO THEY GOT TO BE BROKE I KNOW MY PACK OF 2 HALF YEAR OLDS DONT NEED A COLLAR ANYMORE I KNOW EVERYONE USES THIER SYSTEM DIFFERENT

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:26 am
by Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.
From 6mths when they start till they die is my time span on using collars, i bought them to use therefore they have em strapped on there neck. I also strap mine behind there collars i have seen lots put them in front of there collars,Broke ? I fill like in my mind once they start turning em down, i am on my way.But i really have not had a deer problem for years.With that being said they will probaly pound one out the next time i run. :shock: :-o

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:30 am
by Joeyman
I use mine for handling purposes. I'm thinking about adding a collar here real soon. I have the EXP model all i have to do is buy another so I can add it to my system.

Pretty much every dog I have I can run without a collar but i have them so I use them. My youngest dog lightning is being a hardhead here lately so she now wears the shock collar and I'll keep putting one on her every time out.

My oldest bitch daisy she is now 5yrs old I never have put a shock collar on her. She handles well and never had any problem with trash running.

I also would like to add that we don't have a ton of deer around here. We have them and we jump some every once and awhile but its not on a regular basis to where I have to worry about a deer run.

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:47 am
by cburchett77
I have a female that is around 16 months old that has never ran any off game. She has actually turned them down. But she is still wearing her collar everytime out. Like they said, if you got them use them. You never know. Probably the only way she will go without a collar is when I use all of them on younger dogs that day.

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:06 pm
by warddog
"WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE," When I put them in the ground! Never say Never as beagles are scent hounds and sometimes their nose and desire to track something gets the best of them. I've had them go for years and never bother off game and then wham, bam, thank you mame and it's on. If I cut them loose they will be packing, that extra weight around their neck.

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:15 pm
by Newt
When I use mine it is for handling unless I am running with someone else and I don't know his dogs. I don't believe mine will run deer unless another dog starts it. I have deer around my house and I turn them loose unsupervised. So far I haven't had a deer race.
They sure are handy though, if I am ready to quit and the dogs aren't.

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:21 pm
by Ky. Hunter
If I cut them loose they will be packing, that extra weight around their neck."
Amen. The e-collar makes them handle so much better. I have one that is almost 3 years old and has never taken off game but she always wears her jewelry when running/hunting and when they see me coming with the e-collars in hand they know what is going on.

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:32 pm
by Kerry Nelson
I use mind for handling too, they will wear them everytime they go in the woods, its like a little insurance policy! Ha! Kerry in Maryland

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:35 pm
by Gbeagle
I've yet to have a deer race, but it sure is nice to have that peace of mind. I have heard this said more than once!!!!!!

"You cant trust anything that will eat poop and mate with its own family members"

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:39 pm
by SouthernBeagles
Gbeagle wrote:I've yet to have a deer race, but it sure is nice to have that peace of mind.
Hey Gary- Now I remember one deer race your dogs got caught up in.......and mine, lol!!! Well, the deer was chasing the dogs!!
:ashamed:

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:43 pm
by rabbitsmoker
YEA KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN INSUR PURPOSES I HAD ONE THAT WAS BROKE I SEEN HER TURN DOWN DEER TIME AFTER TIME I RAISED HER FROM A PUPPY SHE WAS 5 YRS WHEN SHE DECIDED TO RUN A DEER AND DONE IT RIGHT AND GUESS WHAT!! I HADNT HAD A COLLAR ON HER FOR 3 YRS I GUESS SHE BACKSLID AT 5 YOU CANT TRUST THEM BUT I LIKE TO TRAIN THEM WITH A COLLAR AND THEN WATCH THEM ANSWER TO MY COMMANDS WITHOUT A COLLAR BUT I SPEND ALOT OF HOURS AND I DO ON SOME REACH A POINT THEY DONT NEED A COLLAR ON MOST OF THEM

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:04 pm
by Kerry Nelson
The time when they do not need collars is when they quit hunting! Ha! The tone brings my bunch a runnin and if it does'nt the # 3 level does! Also all dogs can be taught bad habits and I run with people and dogs with bad habits! Kerry in Maryland

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:40 pm
by Gbeagle
Southern that was more than a deer race they were running for their lives. Next time Scout saw a deer he ran by me and went straight to the truck poor fella!!!!

For those who have never heard the story.

We were running dogs one spring and they run over a doe and her fawn on bed needless to say momma was pretty upset and jumped on our hounds. :bash: :bash: Sent the whole pack screaming back to us LOL!!!!!

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:57 pm
by Casey Harner
warddog wrote:"WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE," When I put them in the ground! Never say Never as beagles are scent hounds and sometimes their nose and desire to track something gets the best of them. I've had them go for years and never bother off game and then wham, bam, thank you mame and it's on. If I cut them loose they will be packing, that extra weight around their neck.

100% agreed :nod:

Re: WHEN DO YOU CONSIDER THEM BROKE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:37 pm
by Shotgun John
I will always use an e-collar on my beagles.