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I am looking at an April, 1953 edition of Hounds and Hunting magazine which has a picture of William Bennett's Warfield Red. At that time, he was already the sire of 10 field champions and many more that only needed one win to finish. I am wondering if this could possibly be the dog that many sellers say they have in their pedigrees? If so, there would be very little blood left from ol' Red himself.

These old books are amazing.

From what I have seen a lot of dogs are being called warfield red due to color. I have had some dogs over the years that were sold to me by guys who said they were warfield red and I knew they were referring to color and did not know that it is actually an old line of dogs. I never owned one that had him in a five generation pedigree. Have any of you and are there some traceable descendants today? Bobby

I went to the pedigree site and typed in Warfield Red and these two came up

Standard Pedigree of:
Alvie's Warfield Red
1978
http://www.beaglepedigree.com/Pro/pp_li ... b=pedigree


Standard Pedigree of:
FC Warfield Red
1944
http://www.beaglepedigree.com/Pro/pp_li ... b=pedigree

The 1944 was well before my time and the 1978 was before I started beagling. I have heard ,in the past this name "Warfield Red" but ,as normal , I don't remember any of the conversation. Just remember hearing the name. As you can see , the 1978 dog is listed as red and white, the 1944 doesn't have the markings listed.

My opinion , for what it's worth, is that even the 1978 hound would be so far back in the pedigree , that most likely it wouldn't have much impact on traits passed to pups. But maybe there has been someone line breeding this blood that could say other wise.

Also you can notice that the 1978 hound is a brother / sister cross. This blood could potentially be out there in some ones kennel.

It is such a great name and probably a great dog. I too believe that it is now just tradition to call a red dog "Warfield Red". The one in the 1953 was not even red. It was more open colored.

John, the pedigree from 1944 was the one from the H & H mag. I wonder of these were walky-talky type beagles back then.

One last thing, Warfield Red was 12 1/2 inches and the stud fee was $35

bucks better beagles wrote:John, the pedigree from 1944 was the one from the H & H mag. I wonder of these were walky-talky type beagles back then.

I don't believe the "Walkie Talkie" fad started until after the "Boogie" era.

the dog warfield red was a blanketback tri color and he was named after the owners kennel man, Red Warfield. . To this day i do not understand why anyone would say or call there dogs warfield reds when the dogs himself wasnt red in color!!!!!

Jon, i don't know either but that sure was a nice name. I always thought he was a red color and seems like a lost of other people did too.

I for one used to think warfield red was a color till i read different on a internet. But i also think that what one thing means to one generation can take on a different definition to a later generation. The statement, years ago, "as a rule of thumbs" first meaning was that a husband couldnt beat his wife with a stick no thicker than his thumb but today it has a totally different definition.

I also have a old issue of hounds and hunting with warfield red in it, he is not red, hahahahahah. But funny how some people do things with names who have no clue about the past. I love to read and study about the past beaglers, beagles and this sport. I got several old issues of hounds and hunting, some going back to the 40s, 50s and early 60s. I also miss the articles that rev. parks use to put in the rabbit hunter magazine, which i also have a bunch of.

Jon. I loved Rev. Parks also. Something else interesting is to look at the pictures of the dogs in the 40-50 ish. era and ones now. I think there is a different body structure. With heavy, stout legs and chests being dominant back then and not so much now. Am I wrong?

No you are right, very stout built dogs. Big heavy muscled up legs and chests but also those dogs back then ran a certain speed and some where ran on cottontail and hare. Not many where string thin and built for speed so to speak. Even the early patch dogs where heavy boned and built dogs. I once had a ole timer tell me the easiest thing to get in beagles was speed, i have to agree.

I select my dogs for their body structure and I like the heavy boned, muscled up look. Any dog can be fast but they must be fast when it comes to running a rabbit. A fast dog that cuts to the front and dies is useless but a fast dog that cuts to the front and then knows how to go on, is a wonder. These are the one I pay for. In this regard, I have seen all kinds of body types that could cut and all kinds that could not.

What ive read about this Warfield was the guys last name and Red was his 1st and whats funny is people get red hounds and call them warfield reds when there is no such thing his breed was tri and open marked from what ive seen