IFC X IFC

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Parker7
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Re: IFC X IFC

Post by Parker7 »

No matter what you pay always look at the dog you are buying. The papers will normally tell me if it's the style of hound I am after, but seeing is believing I need to see it run to tell if its what i like and remember this "champions have just been to more hunts! "

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Re: IFC X IFC

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I have done the bird hunting and coonhunting thing as well, and beagles are underpriced! It's all in what you want, in my opinion. If it is the line that I like I wouldn't have a problem paying $500 for a pup. And I am a poor man!
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Re: IFC X IFC

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I think in some cases people convince themselves what they have is just as good as any, BUT really they are running what they can afford.and nothing wrong with that, but until u have the experience of a( quality hound) out of a proven reproducing line u may not no the difference.
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Re: IFC X IFC

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I don't think $500 for a decade of enjoyment is too much. Food, vet and gas getting them to bunnies each cost more than $50 a year... Any pup is a gamble, but getting a cross from good parents usually is better than some of the cheap stuff.
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Re: IFC X IFC

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I agree that paying for quality is the key. Breeding IFC to IFC may not be an easy adventure and the right cross would be worth 500 dollars to me. The reason pups are 150 dollars is because a lot of times people settle for what is convenient not what they feel would be the best choice to better their hounds. A well planned line bred cross may take some effort but should be worth it in the end and have better chances to reproduce later. When you consider the time, money, and effort put into these hounds to find out their potential 2 or three years later I would rather invest a little upfront to improve my odds.

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Re: IFC X IFC

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Most of the IFC's are hard hitting large pack dogs. Not everyone likes that style of hound. The title is just part of the equation. I will also say as a judge that there is a big difference between one FC and another FC. Not trying to put down anyone's FC, just stating they are certainly not all equal. Some FC's produce far better than others. Some don't produce well at all. Some bloodlines don't cross well. It still all goes back to observing the hounds to be bred and a critical look at what they have produced in the past.
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Re: IFC X IFC

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Re: IFC X IFC

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If somebody can come out with a cross that the pups will be true jump dogs I would give 5 thousand for a pup and it would be a grade dog pup too.Why, there hard to come by.But 500 dollors for a pup and if all good it turn out to be just a good running dog.No theres to many of them pups.JMP.I am a rabbit hunter.finding something to run a rabbit is easy.

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Repeat crosses dont always produce the second time around, a pup is still a gamble any way you look at it.
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I wonder what percent of the rabbit hunters are hunting with an IFC or a double mated IFC offspring.
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Re: IFC X IFC

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Depending on where you live / who you now/ the phisical condition of the dog / how meany pups the seller has / how bad does he need to get rid of them / what time of the year it is / and most inportant how much money do you realy want to throw out on the ground and take a chance of ever seeing it again . :nod:
Cause with all the things that can kill a beagle and all the things that can go wrong like losing them on a deer / getting hung in a fence and brakeing a leg or chocking to death / or getting eaten by wild dog / shot at by another crazy hunter / or stolen right out of the field by some body and the list goes on and on. :???:
How much do you have to camble ? That's all it comes down to. :roll:
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transman63 wrote:I think in some cases people convince themselves what they have is just as good as any, BUT really they are running what they can afford.and nothing wrong with that, but until u have the experience of a( quality hound) out of a proven reproducing line u may not no the difference.

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Re: IFC X IFC

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For an average hunter who is wanting to reproduce genetics you can do that, but what the average beagler doesnt do is put the training time and solo time that the trial guys puts into his/her hounds. The people who are always winning these trials are not doing it out of luck. They train, run, and put a lot of time into there hounds to make them what they are. After being around the trials for a few years I have seen several Kennels that win over and over with different dogs, and different outcrosses because they have a training system that works! The have a good genetic line of dogs, combined with a trainging system that produces results!

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Re: IFC X IFC

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hlane wrote:If beagle pups are under priced and 400 or 500 became the normal asking price. what should a stud fee on a fc or ifc
become
same price as ONE pup. I would base my puppy price on what the stud fee is, not the stud fee on what the cost of the pup is.

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Re: IFC X IFC

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rabbitearl wrote:If somebody can come out with a cross that the pups will be true jump dogs I would give 5 thousand for a pup and it would be a grade dog pup too.Why, there hard to come by.But 500 dollors for a pup and if all good it turn out to be just a good running dog.No theres to many of them pups.JMP.I am a rabbit hunter.finding something to run a rabbit is easy.
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Off topic kinda but ..........
Line running hounds are a dime a dozen. Promise me a TRUE JUMP DOG and the sky's the limit. I dont care if its IFC X IFC or FC X FC or Grade dog to Grade dog, their whats worth their weight in gold. I've raised litters and also purchased a lot of top hounds, (they had hunt but didnt have "HUNT") looking for what i once had, .......... i'm still looking. You put down 3 dogs that can run well and hunt and yeah you will get races, but you put down 3 hounds that can handle a rabbit and 1 of them is a "JUMP DOG" and you have a slice of heaven, JMO, what do i know?
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