Democrat job destroyers

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by Newt on Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:22 am

You can give Clinton credit if you like.
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=GIVING CLINTON CREDIT= IS NOT THE ISSUE THAT IS FACT'S =AS HISTORY TELL'S IT==I KNOW THAT THE REPUBLICAN'S = TRY TO HIDE FROM HISTORY BECAUSE IT EXPOSES THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE .
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=REPUBLICAN'S= THE PARTY OF= BIG GOVERNMENT= BIG SPENDING =TAKING FROM SMALL BUSINESS AND MIDDLE CLASS=IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD..=
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=FOR YOU= MR 2500=

[2500 HD]

by Newt on Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:22 am


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=THE PARTY OF= BIG GOVERNMENT= BIG SPENDING =TAKING FROM SMALL BUSINESS AND MIDDLE CLASS=IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD..

Yes that would be the Democrats!!!!!!!! Glad you finally admit that, and that is why they destroyed the jobs in America.

Thanks Pine Nut for clearing you heart and soul from the lies you have been telling yourself. It takes a big person to admit that he has been wrong for so long.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by tommyg on Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:28 am

Rufus Do you not understand Democrats took control of both houses of Congress in January 2007 and the Office of the President in January 2009. In the 6th year of President Bush's administration when the Democrats took control the unemployment rate was 4.6%. It is the Democrats' policies and agenda which have destroyed the economy and created the fear of regulations and higher taxes in employers. I refer you to view the eye opening chart linked here.http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/la ... final.html

The only way for the Democrats to stay in power is to buy votes with taxpayer money with entitlements
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- For most of the past decade, the economy grew much stronger - but middle-class Americans had little to show for it.

That's the conclusion of a trio of economists who on Thursday released a preview of their book The State of Working America in 2008/2009 due out next year.

Despite two periods of recession in the past decade, U.S. worker productivity still rose 18% in the 2000s - about 2.5% per year, according to author Jared Bernstein, a widely followed economist from the liberal-leaning Economic Policy Institute.

But inflation-adjusted income for the American middle-class family actually fell during the same period. The median real income for working-age middle-income families in the United States dropped $2,000 between 2000 and 2007, from about $58,500 to $56,500, the U.S. Census Bureau reported Tuesday.

As a result, the 2000-2007 business cycle was the first ever in which the nation's middle-class families had less real income at the end than when they started.

"It's a compelling example of a large disconnect," said Bernstein. "Americans aren't being rewarded for their productivity."
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=IT'S CALLED REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH==UPWARD==BY THE ELITE 1 % AND BIG BUSINESS IT SHOW'S AMERICAN'S ARE PRODUCING BUT THEY ARE ROBBED BY BIG CORPORATION'S=

[2500 HD]

Dufus, I thought you give up on the Marxist theory!!!!!!!

Not good for your health to regergitate Nancy's Pelosis's poop!!!!!!!! If you look at her real close, she may have worm's!!!!!!!

[tommyg]

by tommyg on Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:28 am

Rufus Do you not understand Democrats took control of both houses of Congress in January 2007 and the Office of the President in January 2009. In the 6th year of President Bush's administration when the Democrats took control the unemployment rate was 4.6%. It is the Democrats' policies and agenda which have destroyed the economy and created the fear of regulations and higher taxes in employers. I refer you to view the eye opening chart linked here.http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/la ... final.html

The only way for the Democrats to stay in power is to buy votes with taxpayer money with entitlements
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- For most of the past decade, the economy grew much stronger - but middle-class Americans had little to show for it.

That's the conclusion of a trio of economists who on Thursday released a preview of their book The State of Working America in 2008/2009 due out next year.

Despite two periods of recession in the past decade, U.S. worker productivity still rose 18% in the 2000s - about 2.5% per year, according to author Jared Bernstein, a widely followed economist from the liberal-leaning Economic Policy Institute.

But inflation-adjusted income for the American middle-class family actually fell during the same period. The median real income for working-age middle-income families in the United States dropped $2,000 between 2000 and 2007, from about $58,500 to $56,500, the U.S. Census Bureau reported Tuesday.

As a result, the 2000-2007 business cycle was the first ever in which the nation's middle-class families had less real income at the end than when they started.

"It's a compelling example of a large disconnect," said Bernstein. "Americans aren't being rewarded for their productivity."
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=IT'S CALLED REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH==UPWARD==BY THE ELITE 1 % AND BIG BUSINESS IT SHOW'S AMERICAN'S ARE PRODUCING BUT THEY ARE ROBBED BY BIG CORPORATION'S=

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB my question is when are you and all of the other people who claim the elite are holding them down going to open some buisnesses and provide oppertunities for all of your like complainers to over acheive what they can achieving for the last 20 years, since you guys seem to have all of the solutions, when will you stop talking about it and show all of the elite how the poor doesn't need their resources to have jobs, to own properties, to support families and so on.

So when will you invest all of your finances to provide a couple hundred people with employment. Now don't don't forget to have them unionized so you will know how much to pay them, how much retirement, how much insurance, how much vacation, how many sick days, how many holidays and so on.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Democrat job destroyers
by Rabbithoundjb on Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:21 pm

PMB my question is when are you and all of the other people who claim the elite are holding them down going to open some buisnesses and provide oppertunities for all of your like complainers to over acheive what they can achieving for the last 20 years, since you guys seem to have all of the solutions, when will you stop talking about it and show all of the elite how the poor doesn't need their resources to have jobs, to own properties, to support families and so on.

So when will you invest all of your finances to provide a couple hundred people with employment. Now don't don't forget to have them unionized so you will know how much to pay them, how much retirement, how much insurance, how much vacation, how many sick days, how many holidays and so on.
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=NO ONE IS CLAIMING THE ELITE, IS HOLDING THEM DOWN. THE ELITE KEEP GETTING MORE GREEDY ALL THE TIME 10 % PROFIT IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMORE NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE 200%=I HAVE BEEN IN =3=UNIONS AND BELONG TO ONE NOW I HAVE WORKRD EMPLOYEE'S THAT WERE REPRESENTED BY UNION'S SEVERAL TIMES=I SAY IF THE COMPANIES DON'T WANT TO PAY A FAIR WAGE, AND BENEFIT'S, LET THEM KEEP ,THE MONEY, IN THE BANK AND DRAW INTEREST.BUT THEY WANT, BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE MORE = BY STARTING BUSINESS'S,=THEN GET EVEN MORE AND FORGET THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE MONEY FOR THEM,,,LOOK AT THE RATIO BETWEEN HOURLY AND SALARY PAY= COMPARED TO =EXECUTIVES= IT'S CRIMINAL======COMPANIES HAVE NO LOYALTY TO =EMPLOYEES =JUST MONEY

[2500 HD]

Pine nut your such a jealous person...... Are you jealous of Mr. Pelosis too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pine Mt Beagles]

THAT'S YOUR DEPT.

[Rabbithoundjb]

So stop working for these elite and go take the same risk they did and open a buisness, I am so tired of the poor blaming the people who have found success for their failures.

I find it funny that the poor overwhelmingly vote democrat election after election and yet they are still poor with the same complaints.

A stong person will take responsiblity for himself.
A weak person will blame someone else for his failures.

[Newt]

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=NO ONE IS CLAIMING THE ELITE, IS HOLDING THEM DOWN. THE ELITE KEEP GETTING MORE GREEDY ALL THE TIME 10 % PROFIT IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMORE NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE 200%=I HAVE BEEN IN =3=UNIONS AND BELONG TO ONE NOW I HAVE WORKRD EMPLOYEE'S THAT WERE REPRESENTED BY UNION'S SEVERAL TIMES=I SAY IF THE COMPANIES DON'T WANT TO PAY A FAIR WAGE, AND BENEFIT'S, LET THEM KEEP ,THE MONEY, IN THE BANK AND DRAW INTEREST.BUT THEY WANT, BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE MORE = BY STARTING BUSINESS'S,=THEN GET EVEN MORE AND FORGET THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE MONEY FOR THEM,,,LOOK AT THE RATIO BETWEEN HOURLY AND SALARY PAY= COMPARED TO =EXECUTIVES= IT'S CRIMINAL======COMPANIES HAVE NO LOYALTY TO =EMPLOYEES =JUST MONEY

Rufus, my first job out of college was at a textile fiber plant. The workers were represented by a union. I couldn't belive that a company could make a profit with workers sitting on their ass rather than doing their job. I remember telling my wife, just after I started working, this polyester and nylon must be worth its weight in gold. Otherwise we can't be making a profit with everyone sitting around doing nothing. Sure enough, in about six years after I left the company, they shut down due to an inability to compete with Asian producers. That plant was built in the thirties as a Rayon plant, then expanded to Polyester and Nylon. Those guys thought that the gravey train would never end.

That 10% is demanded by the stock holders not the rich. If the company doesn't make a profit the stock holders sell. They are not like the federal govt. They can't print more money. Do you own any stock or mutual funds? I suppose that you would rather invest your money in a stock that earns 1% rather than 10%?
If the government would quit changing the rules and inforce the present laws, companies would hire and we would all be more secure. Unceratinty, as to what the anointted one and his band of socialist have planned, keeps business from expanding and banks from lending.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Rufus, my first job out of college was at a textile fiber plant. The workers were represented by a union. I couldn't belive that a company could make a profit with workers sitting on their ass rather than doing their job. I remember telling my wife, just after I started working, this polyester and nylon must be worth its weight in gold. Otherwise we can't be making a profit with everyone sitting around doing nothing. Sure enough, in about six years after I left the company, they shut down due to an inability to compete with Asian producers. That plant was built in the thirties as a Rayon plant, then expanded to Polyester and Nylon. Those guys thought that the gravey train would never end.
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=NEWT= YOU DESCRIBED MY START IN COAL MINES IN THAT PARAGRAPH=AT THE TIME I STARTED =ONLY DIFFERENCE I WORKED JUST ACROSS THE ROAD, IN A NONE UNION MINE AND I COULD NOT FIGURE,HOW THEY PAYED SO MUCH MORE AND THE BENEFIT'S WERE GREAT.I STARTED AT 19.00 A SHIFT,NO BENEFIT'S,I GOT LAID OFF THE MINE SHUT DOWN,THE UNION MINE KEPT WORKING,I HAD FAMILY THAT WORKRD THERE AND FINALLY, I ASK HOW THEY COULD KEEP THEIR CONTRACT'S,AND AFFORD TO PAY SO GOOD,=HE SAID THE POWER COMPANY COULD AFFORD TO PAY A FEW DOLLARS MOREBE CAUSE OF THE CONSISTANCY OF THE PRODUCTION AND THE UNION TOOK PRIDE IN THERE WORK AND WERE BETTER TRAINED=I FINALLY WORKED THERE FOR SOME TIME ,AND I SAW SOME PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE UNION BENEFIT'S, BUT THAT IS EVERY WHERE,THE UNION JOB'S ALWAY'S GOT THE BIG CONTRACTS=I WENT INTO MANAGEMENT=AND EVENTUALLY OPERATED THREE DIFFERENT MINES TWO WRER UNION======I LIKE YOUR POST ==I HAVE STOCK AND SOME MUTUAL FUND'S AND I AM FULL VESTED IN TWO COMPANY RETIRMENT'S===IT WAS A GOOD POST

[Newt]

Rufus, many years prior to my employment, the company was not unionized. There were a lot of stories about company paid picnics, and other benefits. There probably was not a farm gate in three surronding counties that was not made on company property, made from company metal, and the builder was paid company wages while he welded the metal into gates. The company had a policy that any piece of pipe four feet or less in length could be given to an employee and they could build what ever, on company time. Soon folks were taking a twenty foot section of new pipe, welding a ring around the pipe at four ft intervals, as if they were actually welding severl four ft setions to gether, then hauling it off the property. Ameican enterprise? They made gates, clothes line poles, and swing sets for the kids.
As soon as the Union moved in an adversarial relationship between workers management developed and the freebies stopped.

Management actually liked Unions because it gave them a stable dependable, although less dedicated workforce. In those days the profit margin was not threatened by foreign competition. As soon as the trade agreements were signed, those sloppy work habits aided in the demise of American Industry. I left in 78 and the company was sold a few years later. Different products were tried including Vinyl decking, but the buildings that once employeed about 3,00 workers are now empty.

I worked for TVA construction for several years. They had plans for seventeen nuclear plants in 1978. Politicians, (Jimmy Carter) probably bought off by big oil, shut them down. Now we are hostage to the Mid East for our power. I remember the depression that I felt as I drove by those cooling towers, rusting metal buildings, and rusting machinery, a few years after TVA . cancelled those plants. Billions of dollars worth of material rusting away. Land taken from land owners, vacant. Power bills soaring, someone has to pay for the beauracratic mistakes.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

GOOD POST=IT ALL COMES DOWN TO GREED =WHO HAS THE MOST GREED AND A ,MEAN'S, OF USING THAT GREED TO GET WHAT THEY WANT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE=

[Chief Long Hair]

Newt, quick!!!!! Your closed off mind is showing again!!!!! Cover it up before anybody sees it!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Read this link about 3 Mile Island above and your mind will expand. It states:

Public reaction to the event, (that being 3 Mile Island or TMI), was probably influenced by the release (12 days before the accident) of a movie called The China Syndrome, depicting an accident at a nuclear reactor.[4] Communications from officials during the initial phases of the accident were felt to be confusing.[5] The accident was followed by a cessation of new nuclear plant construction in the US.

Did you see that Newt? Let me help you read on. It continued to say:

Effect on nuclear power industry

According to the IAEA, the Three Mile Island accident was a significant turning point in the global development of nuclear power [54]. From 1963 to 1979, the number of reactors under construction globally increased every year except 1971 and 1978. However, following the event, the number of reactors under construction declined every year from 1980 to 1998. Many similar Babcock and Wilcox reactors on order were canceled —

The 1979 TMI accident did not, however, initiate the demise of the U.S. nuclear power industry. As a result of post-oil-shock analysis, (the price of energy dropped significantly after the 1973 oil crisis), and conclusions of overcapacity, 40 planned nuclear power plants had already been canceled between 1973 and 1979. No U.S. nuclear power plant had been authorized to begin construction since the year before TMI. Nonetheless, at the time of the TMI incident, 129 nuclear power plants had been approved; of those, only 53 (which were not already operating) were completed. Federal requirements became more stringent, local opposition became more strident, and construction times were significantly lengthened.


There's your reasons why nuclear power went south. Post-oil-shock analysis, (the price of energy dropped significantly after the 1973 oil crisis), overcapacity, local opposition became more strident, (in other words the people spoke against nukes), and construction times were significantly lengthened due to Federal requirements becoming more stringent!!!!! Not politicians, not Jimmy Carter, not the government, (except for introducing more stringent requirements due to TMI).

Read your history. You might learn something. It's real easy with things like Google or ask.com. Just ask them.

Oh, here's one more thing. Since you seem to strongly believe that we need nuclear power, just like me, you've got to read this link.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... r-reactors

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http://media.www.theduquesneduke.com/me ... 8976.shtml

The first link is a White House Press release stating that President Obama announced an $8.3 billion loan guarantee that will be put toward two new nuclear reactors in Georgia.

The second link states:

On Feb. 16, President Barack Obama announced an $8.3 billion loan guarantee that will be put toward two new nuclear reactors in Georgia. Throughout his short tenure, Obama has consistently pushed nuclear energy.

WOW!!!!! Just like you and me!!!!! I guess you need to look a little differently at our President now, uh????? You two have something in common.

Did anybody see Hell freeze over????? Go figure.

Da Chief

PS. Keep giving me more stuff to investigate. I've got plenty of time since I've been laid off for about a year now thanks to Bush and his Congress.