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Band aids don't last.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:===========OIL IS= 81.00= DOLLARS A BARREL TODAY,==CASH FOR CLUNKER'S PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE BACK TO WORK ==JUST FACT'S===OPINION'S =VARY FACT'S STAY THE SAME=
NEXT!!! :roll:
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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:===========OIL IS= 81.00= DOLLARS A BARREL TODAY,==CASH FOR CLUNKER'S PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE BACK TO WORK ==JUST FACT'S===OPINION'S =VARY FACT'S STAY THE SAME=
NEXT ONE!!! :nod:
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read the second cut and paste by ole chief, manpower report, anit it great we can cut and paste boys and girls, ohh back to the point, one of the first lines in this report is " best economic news to hit the Midwest since Mid 2008" now who was the prez in 2008, come on now , come on now it werent ole bo was it. Yeah I know chief and pinenut it was Dubya and this is not a plug for him, Oh again back to article further down It goes something like this " first glimpse of what might come in febuaury 2010( talking about all the jobs and all the hiring thats coming)which will not be avaibile untill early April. So chief where are these jobs from this article that you cut and paste, it now Mid April and their report is this Job market sucks again this month. Go back and read it chief it was worthless infomation that you tried to make yourself feel good with.( through in werent, just for you the spelling nazi=)

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Oh forgat to mention to pinenut and chief I really like the new name bluerat cause it might has some value to all of us. The way I see it is that both of you are blind and i can not help you with your sight, both your brains are so clouded from bo"s poots, there is no way to correct your thinking. But since you have elavated me to rat that means I got a bigger pecker than a mouse so maybe I could help clean your ears so when they call your name in the welfare line you will at least be able to hear. ( chief misspelled couple words for ya helps keeping you on your toes= spelling nazi the = is for your buddy) oooh dont take this to heart its all in fun boys

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When temp agencies like Manpower are doing well, regular payroll jobs are not. Many of the production facilities here in Indiana have temp agencies right inside their buildings because they have no intentions of putting on regular employees and paying them benefits. Manpower's glowing report is like a death knell to a lot of industry.

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Bev
Your Smack on on that one. Temp agencies like man power, Barrett services, Kelly Services and all those have Large Offices all over the states Where they Provide Employment Services For large and Small Companies..
The Benefits they Reap or Sell to the corps are No Hiring headaches!! They handle all the aspects of the Job from the interview to the payroll..The Corporations Do not have to Pay benefits to these Employees and if they dont Work out Do not have to handle the BS or Legal ramifications of Terminating them!!! No Medical!!!! No retirement!!!! No Drug testing ect they pay the temp agency a fee per hour or per mo. usually a few dollars an hour MORE than the Employee is making Say the Agency pays the worker $10hr The Company Pays the agency $12 or $15 and hour and Up these company's are also given tax breaks for Hiring..
Heck Even the US gov uses these agencies to Fill Seasonal Positions in the Forest Industry and have been for years they mark em down as Full Time Temps. Work Em 38 hours a week So Dont have to Worry about overtime either...
And YES even the UNIONS use Em IBEW in Salem Oregon Used to do it all the Time Called it DAY LABOR.
Used to be Mostly What ya Found was Illegals and Or Dopers looking to make a quick Buck NOW you will see hundreds Lined up Every Morning Waiting for the Job Boss to get his help for the day WORK THIER Arses Off pay em a minimum and write it off as Contract labor Day in and Day Out....
NOW there is a Good side to this also..
A lot of Companies Will Hire from Within these Temp agencies if they are looking to fill a position they will contract With one of the above services and hire through them Giving them a Finders Fee wich usually is 6 mo of the contract.
the benefit to the company is they did not have to go thru the hiring Process the Drug testing, the interview, background checks,ect that has all been done for them by the temp company...
From Field to Show and Show to Field the way it should be

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JUST THE SAME =REPUBLICANS CRAZER= THAN A =ONE EYED CAT= WATCHING TWO===BLUE- RAT HOLES,
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=SAME OLE HIPPOCRIT MIS-DIRECTION=IF IT WERE NOT SO SAD IT WOULD BE FUNNY,NOTHING BUT OPINION'S..
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=BY BLUE-GRASS(BIG WORD'S)=
I don't give a darn about you being in a union...I am in a union as well, big fat hairy deal. I don't give a dam.n whether you can afford COBRA or not, its not my place or business to care. UNLESS I FIRE YOU, WHY DO YOU THINK I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR IT???? You asked me if I have health care....yes, and EVERYONE DOES. Do I have health care COVERAGE?? Yes I do, as I am in a union that negotiates a fantastic insurance package that I don't PAY ONE DIME FOR. Do I think everyone should have the same coverage that I do?? NO!!!!!! I chose my job based on the BENEFITS and one of them is the insurance package (HEALTH CARE COVERAGE). Face it hippee, not everything is fair, not everything is equal and, NEWSFLASH!!! IT SHOULDNT BE.

=YOU BAD MOUTH UNION'S=YET BRAG WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR YOU =YOU ARE A HOPPOCRIT=YOU SAY EVERY ONE HAS HEALTH CARE = YOU LIE=YOU SAY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE AS GOOD OF INCSURANCE PLAN AS YOU =ARROGANT= EGOTISTIC= SELFISH =TRASH IS WHAT YOU ARE=YOU DON'T CARE IF SOME ONE ELSE HAS INSURANCE=HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM COMPASION=OR HELPING SOME ONE IN NEED ==DO YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES HUMAN BEING'S DIFFERENT FROM ANIMALS =WELL= NO= I KNOW YOU DON'T.
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=AND ==I BELONG TO A UNION WHO HAS GOOD HEALTH CARE AS WELL.===BUT UNLIKE YOU I HOPE EVERY ONE COULD GET THE BEST HEALTH CARE POSSABLE=
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=AND THESE COMPANIES WHO SELL= JOB'S= FOR COMMISSION ARE FAR BETTER THAN =REPUBLICAN'S= WHO HAVE =DESERTED= THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM=AND HAVE NOT PRODUCED ONE JOB=
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YOU BAD MOUTH UNION'S=YET BRAG WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR YOU =YOU ARE A HOPPOCRIT=YOU SAY EVERY ONE HAS HEALTH CARE = YOU LIE=YOU SAY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE AS GOOD OF INCSURANCE PLAN AS YOU =ARROGANT= EGOTISTIC= SELFISH =TRASH IS WHAT YOU ARE=YOU DON'T CARE IF SOME ONE ELSE HAS INSURANCE=HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM COMPASION=OR HELPING SOME ONE IN NEED ==DO YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES HUMAN BEING'S DIFFERENT FROM ANIMALS =WELL= NO= I KNOW YOU DON'T.
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Everyone DOES have health care...its called going to the ER when the ER is prohibited by law from refusing treatment. You are the idiot here Dufus...not everyone has health care COVERAGE, I AGREE...but health care COVERAGE is NOT a right, its something that should be earned through a job, retirement, etc...or paid for by those who plan for it, save for it, and those that purchase INSURANCE you ignorant hillbilly. I never said I didnt care if someone else had insurance...I merely stated that not everyone had a right to the same insurance I have without TAKING THE SAME JOB I HAVE...you convienently left that out didnt you??? Some people have BETTER insurance than I do...do I deserve THEIR insurance without earning it the way they have?? Compassion or helping someone in need has NOTHING to do with whats going on in this so called health care debate...the Government wants to CONTROL health care, not help ANYONE get health care COVERAGE...you are an imbecile to the nth degree if you believe anyone in Congress that favors this tripe wants to help YOU in any way. Helping people in need should NOT be Government controlled either...I do my fair share or more of donating time and money to several charities and volunteer services that you know NOTHING about, nor do I owe you any explanation of it. Suffice it to say however that YOU expect EVERYONE else to pay for YOU...I dont want to pay for YOU.


Let me explain it like this...You have a vast amount of knowledge about beagles that I do not have...you bred beagles and have probably forgotten more about what it entails to breed competitive, hard driving hounds than I may ever know...I wouldnt even BEGIN to compare my knowledge and experience to YOURS, as I know yours is much superior to mine...NOW, with that being said, suppose you have four top notch beagles in your kennel (I know you have gotten out of beagling, but lets pretend you still do it) and your beagles are the best in the area. Not too far out of reality since you have been near the top of the beagle world and know your stuff....am I, an outsider who comes into your area, ENTITLED to your beagles just because I want them?? Should the GOVERNMENT mandate that YOU have to give two of your beagles to ME just because you have them and I dont??? Obviously the answer is NO, I am NOT entitled to your beagles...put it another way. I am NOT entitled to the fruits of YOUR hard work, YOUR experience, YOUR choices of breeding stock, I am not entitled in ANY WAY to what YOU have because YOU have earned it and I have not. The correlation can be made that I am NOT entitled to ANYTHING that you have worked for and earned. My health care COVERAGE is the same....just like the above comparison with beagles, I have the OPPORTUNITY to learn beagle breeding, I have the OPPORTUNITY to put in the time and effort and attempt to DUPLICATE what YOU have done, right?? Just like the CHOICES I have made with regards to employment and decisions I have made with my money, everyone else has that OPPORTUNITY to pursue the same path that allowed me to have what I have....those that cannot due to disability or other factors other than pure laziness and sorryness should be taken care of by our society....but things arent always equal, and they shouldnt be...if everyone was the same, all benefits were the same, all pay was the same, everyone had the SAME things that everyone else had please tell me where the drive to succeed would come from? Where would the desire to excel come from? Where would the passion to be more than everyone else come from?

You are misguided in believing that everyone should all have the same things all the time...stop trying to spell big words you don't know and please, please for God's sake stop using that dam.n equals sign....

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lol.

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An old man told me 32 years ago, "If you live under an umbrella with your eyes and ears closed, you never know it's raining"... :(

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S.R.Patch wrote:An old man told me 32 years ago, "If you live under an umbrella with your eyes and ears closed, you never know it's raining"... :(


Yeah, maybe but you are dry huh....
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S.R.Patch wrote:An old man told me 32 years ago, "If you live under an umbrella with your eyes and ears closed, you never know it's raining"... :(
Then open your eyes and ears, close Obama's (Hopey, Chaney) umbrella, and find out that it is not just raining, but Obama and his administration is urinating on your head.......... and making you pay double for their services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by=BIG WORD'S
Everyone DOES have health care...its called going to the ER when the ER is prohibited by law from refusing treatment. You are the idiot here Dufus...
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=THAT IS WHY WE NEED A HEALTH CARE PLAN-THE EMERGENCY ROOM CHARGES 100% MORE THAN AN OFFICE VISIT,THAT PEOPLE CANNOT GO TO WITH OUT INSURANCE====AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POPUND OF CURE==IN HEALTH AND MONEY=ONLY PEOPLE WHO CONSIDER THEM SELVES= SUPERIOR OR ELITE= THINK OTHER'S SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME AS THEM=I'AM NOT EITHER OF THESE WHAT IS THE SAYING ==
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==Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
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=OF COURSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS===

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Re: Government Oilfield Economics

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bluegrass wrote:
S.R.Patch wrote:An old man told me 32 years ago, "If you live under an umbrella with your eyes and ears closed, you never know it's raining"... :(
Yeah, maybe but you are dry huh....
Yes, I am dry and so are you,...that Union that holds us back, you know... :roll:

People got used to profits quicker, what used to take a lifetime now take only a few years. I think we have to deflate or we go right back to where we were.

Everyone is in a "risk avoidance" mode,... Banks, Insurance Co's... stock pile is reduced in manufacturing... this man power work is a good sign to me, shows workload demand is winding up and will jump when tensions are relieved and more confidence is restored.
Everyone is "sitting on hands", wait and see mode.

I always have to go back to "what got us here" to try and understand what's going on and where we're headed... action/reaction

I was hurt to hear on Fox about the doctors leaving the profession... I was naive enough to believe caring for mankind was as much a motivator for these gifted people as was the money... :( ... but, I find in Industry the same thing,...shortsightedness has overtaken us, the good they do and long term view is not worth waiting for any more.

I have learned, Society and Government is liken to the metal in my turbine. It heats up in start-up, but must be kept at a 150deg loading rate or it stresses...the same with shutting down, the cooling rate must be controlled, it stresses, but in a controlled manner, each loading and shutdown are called a life cycle... if limits are exceeded, excessive expansion or contraction on the metal occurs and create cracks, the bigger the temperature difference, the bigger the cracks.
It seem to me, we heated up to fast and the eccentricity went wild, things got on shaky ground and she tripped! Now, the steam has gone cold but the stop valves can't close to protect the metal, she's cooling to fast and the cracks are opening and good people are falling through.

Is there a doctor in the house to save the patient ,...no, they've all quit to pursue other interest of monetary gains... :(
Good luck to all...

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