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I Would Say She and THEY pretty much put it to ol obamiee and his party...
Best speech I have heard From a politician in Quite some time....
not Some rehearsed Written by Someone else and Q carded rhetoric Like at the Dem Convention now was it :D
Heck I even Liked Rudys part in all of it...
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It was a good speech. It did not sound like something pre-written with all the politically correct terminology. She seems like a normal down to earth person with real world problems, not a career politician. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for Obama with his ties to anti-American friends.
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Rneil wrote:It was a good speech. It did not sound like something pre-written with all the politically correct terminology. She seems like a normal down to earth person with real world problems, not a career politician. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for Obama with his ties to anti-American friends.
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At first I wasn't sure about the pick, but when some of the "baggage" came out I thought it was a very smart pick. A V.P. with real world problems right now.

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Pike Ridge Beagles wrote:When I read McCain's pick alls I could do is smile and say to myself....wow, this is a very smart move. Yes, a political move, but VERY smart. :check:
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I thought it was a very good “high emotional” pep speech with saying exactly what the people wanted to hear, which was bashing Obama and continuing to degrade the Democratic candidates. She presented it as it was written for her, and her main talent, which is public speaking. Her degree is in public speaking, journalism and public broadcasting. But as every news media coverage is putting it today, I agree that she covered the bashing very well but she had absolutely no ideas, plans or solutions for the future or the problems at hand in America, just lots of bashing. That will draw a lot of “amen’s” at the time of the speech but there was no substance to any plans for the future. And with such extreme blown out of proportion attacks on Obama and Biden, she opened herself up to be attacked in return. I don’t think that was a good idea, not with all of her baggage. Not with her admitting she likes and was a avid pot smoker and bought it and used it regularly before it was deemed illegal in Alaska and does not have a problem if it were to be legalized, and the ongoing investigation of her firing a man because he refused to fire her brother-n-law while her sister was divorcing him, and her husband receiving DUI’s and the claims of him being an alcoholic, and now her teenage daughter is pregnant? Yea, I want somebody that is down to earth and can relate to the common person but what example is she putting out there? What “not” to be or what “not” to do? All of this has come to light just after 5 days. With that speech she is begging to be probed, and she will be. There will be much more of her dirty laundry aired out in the weeks to come. The best part of the whole convention is the story of John McCain’s life. It is incredible and he is a “true” American hero and a great story. He could have won this thing if he would have just picked any of the other key speakers of the convention so far. As far as Obama being friends with terrorists? Lolol that’s a joke and nobody is buying it. Are you what your neighbors are? Are you what the people that you work with are? Or even some of your family members are? You may have met, shaken the hand of, live close or work by or be related to a child molester, murderer, drug dealer, etc… does that make you one? No, because you are what “you” are. Obama is not a terrorist and that whole topic is ridicules. I also believe it will be a different story when Palin is one on one in a debate and all her questions will be “on hand” and she won’t have a script to broad cast like she did last night. Especially when the questions are concerning all the things she has no experience or knowledge of and about her and her family’s personal dirty laundry and wrong doings of the past. And the nude pictures she posed for and this interview she did with Howard Sterns a while back, that they are getting ready to pound on, is not going to help her case much.

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I have watched her speech twice now and i think she nailed it! Sarah looks like she may have been a good pick, but there is still a lot of time for Obama and his gang to dig up dirt. I was very impressed, but it is hard to look past the fact that her own family is in such disarray.

Experience over words is what this is going to come down to. Sarah is the right candidate to spark new interest in McCains race, but McCains maverick style may come back to haunt him before it is all said and done. It just keeps getting better and better every day! :D
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I agree that she covered the bashing very well but she had absolutely no ideas, plans or solutions for the future or the problems at hand in America, just lots of bashing.


Dr. Chris; If you don’t think she has solutions just ask the good old boy net work that was in Alaska when she took office. She stood up and made changes that are recorded unlike Obama who has done nothing.
“As far as Obama being friends with terrorists? Lolol that’s a joke and nobody is buying it. Are you what your neighbors are? Are you what the people that you work with are? Or even some of your family members are? You may have met, shaken the hand of, live close or work by or be related to a child molester, murderer, drug dealer, etc… does that make you one? No, because you are what “you” are. Obama is not a terrorist and that whole topic is ridicules.”




People are buying it because it is true. First, we all have run across, worked with or have family members maybe that are not on the up and up. That is not what we are talking about; we are talking about his advisors, people he runs with.

You made the statement about people that did the bombing were not really people associated with Mr. Ayers however; you were wrong. He started this group and was a leader. Items documented in an earlier post from the Chicago Press and his website.

I work with people that are anti-hunt, fish, and guns however I don’t have dinner with them and associate with them after work. We have nothing in common but work. Now, I have a couple of friends that don’t care for hunting but we get along. I don’t have or want friends that have bombed our country, hate the USA for what it is. I have family that gave their life so we could have this conversation, hunt and fish.
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I tell ya what, Dr. Chris, you are fighting a loosing battle around here I am afraid. Gun control is a big issue for hunters and beaglers and if you want more gun control legislation then vote for Obama. If he gets in he will probably be the one who replaces all of those over 80 justices on the Supreme Court with liberals like himself and we will be the ones bitter and clinging to our religion without our guns as Obama calls us poor hill folk. :roll:
As far as Obama being friends with terrorists? Lolol that’s a joke and nobody is buying it.
Somebody is buying it as the polls last week were 49% Obama and 48% McCain. Now this week McCain is down about 8 pts but there is always a bump after the conventions. Lets see what the next polls say. Don't forget there is always that 3 to 4 % that a poll is normally off or so they say.
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oakhill wrote: Somebody is buying it as the polls last week were 49% Obama and 48% McCain. Now this week McCain is down about 8 pts but there is always a bump after the conventions. Lets see what the next polls say. Don't forget there is always that 3 to 4 % that a poll is normally off or so they say.
Remember all the polls that had Gore up? Never believe polls generated by the biased liberal media. If there was fairness in media, the polls would show McCain up by a landslide. Pretty sad that Obama won't win even with all the free media press.

I agree Oakhill, seems like an odd place for a liberal to be coming on here full of hunters and houndsmen trying to push a socialist like Obama.
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Pike Ridge Beagles wrote:
oakhill wrote: Somebody is buying it as the polls last week were 49% Obama and 48% McCain. Now this week McCain is down about 8 pts but there is always a bump after the conventions. Lets see what the next polls say. Don't forget there is always that 3 to 4 % that a poll is normally off or so they say.
Remember all the polls that had Gore up? Never believe polls generated by the biased liberal media. It there was fairness in media, the polls would show McCain up by a landslide. Pretty sad that Obama won't win even with all the free media press.

I agree Oakhill, seems like an odd place for a liberal to be coming on here full of hunters and houndsmen trying to push a socialist like Obama.
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Hold up there Pike Ridge! I'm a democrat and have always voted democrat! However, I'm looking at this a little differently this year, but it still doesn't mean that i will change parties either! I love my guns, and also enjoy working a UNION job, and a democrat isn't going to take either one of them! Obama is only one man, and the last time i looked it takes the house and senate both to create laws! There is no way you can agree on every issue with either one of these two sorry candidates, but you have to look at what matters the most. I don't want to start WWIII, and i don't want to see the economy in the state that it is in anymore! The only party that looks out for the little guy is the democrats, and at times it actually make me sick just thinking about listening to one of the old mans speeches.

The biggest factor about McCain is this: If he is elected you can count on us going to war! He will raise taxes just like Obama, but we all take a risk on him forgetting about it the next day (old age). Is he the best pick we have? As far as I’m concerned HELL NO! His experience is what separates him, but this country is heading down the wrong street fast because of 8 years of republican control! We need change and the change is never going to happen under a 20 plus year guy who has created most of our current problems. Obama is all talk, but at least it is smoothing different and most of us are willing to take that chance rather than look at another 4 years of BUSH. Sarah is a fresh face that is nice to see, but come on! She is just a joke that McCain pulled out of A$$ last minute. This will back fire on him, and i hate to tell all of you republicans this, but you all will see Obama in the white house! Keep on posting all of the propaganda you want….it isn’t going to help your losing cause.
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Well i aint a Rep or a Dem
BUT i will Ask you THIS
What happened to ALL the PROMISES the DEMS made like When we get Control Of the house and Senate Gas Will Go Down jobs Will Go Up????? WELL they have Control So are we better Off???
The only thing i have seen Go UP is the price of GAS and lots of JOBS still LEAVING the US
you Can BLAME ol BILL and NAFTA for that.....EXPLAIN to ME how the DEMS are for the Little GUY??? :roll:
ANND Whatt happened To their Promises just more EMPTY TALK just like our FUEL tanks..
In A WAY i hope OBAMA does get it Yall WANT CHANGE i think you Will see it the FIRST year he is In When complete ANARCHY takes over and the Milita Is Roaming the Steets trying to maintain LAW....Maybe then Yall Will Wake up
and we will get a Return to Common sense!!!!
but I doubt it....As far as UNIONS go Well thats another thing all together used to be a Good thing but them days to have passed..
More plants Closing Due to UNION control than any other time in history..GE,Westinghouse,GM ,Ford Ect
illegals coming in BECAUSE Folks want MORE $$$$$ for LESS work JMHO talk about GOOD Ol BOY networking.



Palin has an 80% popularity rating in AK. She went against the entrenched, corrupt Republican party,
even firing the party head from the State Oil and Gas Commission and resigning from Chairing it herself
because they were getting about $100k/yr each for a titular position (political payoff for the good old
boys between elected positions; attend a couple meetings a year and collect $100k for spending money).

She ran against corrupt incumbent governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary and whipped his
butt, which really angered the Republican "machine" but the people loved it.

She stood up to the big oil companies who have bought and paid for all the rest of our politicians, forced
them into starting on a gas line, and raised their taxes. A disproportionate number of our politicians are
currently doing Federal time as a result of FBI investigations, and probably more to come. Some of the
oilfield contractors are doing time also, but the major oil company execs have managed to stay clear - so far.

She vetoed about 300 items in the State budget, cutting spending in a time of cash surplus. I like it -
save some for tommorrow.

The liberal press hates her, the Republican establishment hates her, the oil companies are afraid of her,
the Dems dont want her, but the people of Alaska voted her in over the objections of the "movers and
shakers". Even the local right wing talk show guys hate her, accusing her of being too liberal (that's not a typo).

So most of the egotistical power brokers in the State - media, politicians, oil company big shots - dont like
her, but the people love her, partly because she has the balls to stand up to them all, and to stand up for all of us.

The facts are she has much more executive experience than Obama, having been a Governor and Mayor
(decisions, budgets, managing people, etc), compared to Obama who has 142 working days as a Senator,
most of that spent running for President. Remember, she is running for VP, while Obama, with far less
qualifications, is running for Pres.

Alaska is a gigantic State, probably 1/3 the land mass of the lower 48, with a budget larger than most
countries and major energy and mineral resources. Our neighbors are Canada and Russia.

What has Obama accomplished during his time as a senator? Nothing.. And what executive, management
experience does a senator get? None.. Opps - Rod Conti tells me Obama did sponsor 15 gun control bills...
guess he did something...

She has been to the war visiting HER troops ( the AK National Guard has been there for at least 4 years).
So if you compare her experience to Obama, she is much more qualified to step into the Presidential spot,
both as commander in chief and chief executive. And remember, she is running for VP while Obama hopes
to be President.

As far as her debate with Biden, he is a bulldog to be respected, but I think it is he who should be worried.
We will see. She is a charismatic, dynamic speaker, who can handle herself. She will sure be tired out over
the next couple weeks, and I hope she holds up to all the merciless punishment from the meida. She is tough
as nails. If anybody can do it, she can.

Oh yeah, all that stuff about her living on a lake with their own Super Cub on floats parked at the dock, her
husband being a champion snowmachine racer, her being a commercial fisherman, hunter, etc, etc - it's all
true. My only problem with her is understanding why she would want to leave that life and move to a cesspool
like DC. Her reason is, she wants to better my life and yours. Very unselfish...
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I agree Oakhill, seems like an odd place for a liberal to be coming on here full of hunters and houndsmen trying to push a socialist like Obama.
I do not consider myself a liberal, and I am not trying to “push” Obama. I am being objective and realistic towards both parties. I don’t know who I am voting for yet. You can’t be so “kennel blind” that you totally ignore the facts and make up things as you go along so it fits your agenda. I have never said that Obama is all that great, but he is not the monster you make him out to be with your exaggerations. And I didn’t say that McCain was that bad, but he is not the messiah you claim he is. I think we have horrible choices to pick from, and out of these 4 candidates I would rather see McCain and Biden together if it were possible, but we have to do what is best now, with what we have now. Gun control? Are you kidding? You’re worried about gun control? That cannot and will not ever be a serious issue and will never be passed. You better look at the real issues and things that can actually happen or not happen, be realistic. Jobs, health care, education and especially war. Stop worrying about ignorant scare tactics. I like and highly respect McCain, but we do need a change, another 4 years of traditional Bush is just asking for more punishment. And to vote for either party simply because you or your family has always been that particular party is just plain stupid. Knowing as much of the facts as possible with an open mind towards both parties will get the right party in. I know it’s a lot, but read this:

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform _ not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded. Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families. He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right _ change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington _ throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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