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What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor
since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

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It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats --- yet
are still disadvantaged.

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Dr. Chris you should have listened to her speak because I saw that same info yesterday and those statements are paraphrased it is not exactly what she said and even some of their facts if you research it you will find fall short of the complete truth maybe you should look with an open mind and not try so hard to tie McCain to Bush in case you don't remember most of the democrats also voted for this war which seems to be what you have hung you hat on.

These are facts that we know McCain has served his country basically his whole life, put his life on the line for this country, a decorated serviceman, basically an american hero with many years of experience.

I'm not an Obama hater, the man is educated, he's a good speaker but the facts about him that bother me are simple. he has never governed anything that I can find, he has basically no experience leading and the most important thing to me is the man displays (in his chioces and his actions no patriatism for a country he wants to be in charge of) that does not sit well with me. He chooses not to salute the flag, not to pledge allegience, not to wear a pendent of the american flag and the people he has associated with and called mentors for most of his life are at the very least suspect in character.

My granddad told me when I was small when people talk listen you can alway learn but if you want to know who they are watch what they do because their actions will alway be true to who they are.

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Dr. Chris wrote:
I agree Oakhill, seems like an odd place for a liberal to be coming on here full of hunters and houndsmen trying to push a socialist like Obama.
I do not consider myself a liberal, and I am not trying to “push” Obama. I am being objective and realistic towards both parties. I don’t know who I am voting for yet. You can’t be so “kennel blind” that you totally ignore the facts and make up things as you go along so it fits your agenda. I have never said that Obama is all that great, but he is not the monster you make him out to be with your exaggerations. And I didn’t say that McCain was that bad, but he is not the messiah you claim he is. I think we have horrible choices to pick from, and out of these 4 candidates I would rather see McCain and Biden together if it were possible, but we have to do what is best now, with what we have now. Gun control? Are you kidding? You’re worried about gun control? That cannot and will not ever be a serious issue and will never be passed. You better look at the real issues and things that can actually happen or not happen, be realistic. Jobs, health care, education and especially war. Stop worrying about ignorant scare tactics. I like and highly respect McCain, but we do need a change, another 4 years of traditional Bush is just asking for more punishment. And to vote for either party simply because you or your family has always been that particular party is just plain stupid. Knowing as much of the facts as possible with an open mind towards both parties will get the right party in. I know it’s a lot, but read this:

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform _ not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded. Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families. He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right _ change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington _ throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO VISIT THIS POST IT IS BETTER THAN THE SUNDAY COMMICS IT'S FUNNY AS HELL ,EVERY ONE HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF THE TRUTH,I JUST WISH THEY WOULD PUT A LITTLE OF IT ON HERE.FROM BOTH SIDES,
BUT THE FUNNEST THING SOME ONE SAID IS BUSH WILL GO DOWN AS A GREAT PRESIDENT,HE WILL GO DOWN AS THE WORST ENEMY THIS COUNTRY EVER HAD ,EVEN CRAZY DICK HASN'T BEEN SEEN WITH HIM IN ABOUT (6)YEARS HE HAS OUR MILITARY OVER THERE TRAINING TERRORIST AND USING OUR SOILDERS FOR TARGET PRATICE ,LIKE MOST OF YOU I DON'T KNOW THIS TO BE A FACT,I HEARD IT SOME WHERE,I THINK POLITICS IS THE MOST UNDER RATED FANTACY SHOW THERE IS. P.S. I AM A REG.INDEPENDENT I DON'T HAVE A CANDITATE RUNNING SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL.....
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NOW THAT RIGHT THERE IS FUNNY :lol:
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Back on topic:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ama_mccain

Palin Power: Fresh Face Now More Popular Than Obama, McCain
Friday, September 05, 2008
A week ago, most Americans had never heard of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. Now, following a Vice Presidential acceptance speech viewed live by more than 40 million people, Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of American voters. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 37% hold an unfavorable view of the self-described hockey mom.

The figures include 40% with a Very Favorable opinion of Palin and 18% with a Very Unfavorable view (full demographic crosstabs are available for Premium Members). Before her acceptance speech, Palin was viewed favorably by 52%. A week ago, 67% had never heard of her.

The new data also shows significant increases in the number who say McCain made the right choice and the number who say Palin is ready to be President. Generally, John McCain’s choice of Palin earns slightly better reviews than Barack Obama’s choice of Joe Biden.

Perhaps most stunning is the fact that Palin’s favorable ratings are now a point higher than either man at the top of the Presidential tickets this year. As of Friday morning, Obama and McCain are each viewed favorably by 57% of voters. Biden is viewed favorably by 48%.

There is a strong partisan gap when it comes to perceptions of Palin. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of Republicans give her favorable reviews along with 33% of Democrats and 59% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

She earns positive reviews from 65% of men and 52% of women. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that Obama continues to lead McCain among women voters while McCain leads among men. The Friday morning update—the first to include interviews conducted after Palin’s speech--showed the beginning of a Republican convention bounce that may match Obama’s bounce from last week.

Fifty-one percent (51%) of Americans believe that most reporters are trying to hurt Palin’s campaign, a fact that may enhance her own ratings.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? Sign up now. If it's in the news, it's in our polls. Get our daily update and we’ll let you know what voters really think.)

The Palin pick has also improved perceptions of John McCain. A week ago, just before he introduced his running mate, just 42% of Republicans had a Very Favorable opinion of their party’s nominee. That figure jumped to 54% by this Friday morning. Among unaffiliated voters, favorable opinions of McCain have increased by eleven percentage points in a week—from 54% before the Palin announcement to 65% today.

Fifty-one percent (51%) of all voters now believe that McCain made the right choice when he picked Palin to be his running mate while 32% disagree. By way of comparison, on the night after Biden gave his acceptance speech, 47% said that Obama made the right choice.

Eighty-one percent (81%) of Republicans say that McCain made the right choice while just 69% of Democrats said the same about Obama.

Among unaffiliated voters, 52% said that McCain made the right choice for his running mate and 45% said the same about Obama.

Forty percent (40%) now say that Palin is ready to be President, if necessary. That’s up from 29% last week. Forty-nine percent (49%) say the same about Biden.

However, following the Wednesday night speech, voters are fairly evenly divided as to whether Palin or Obama has the better experience to be President. Forty-four percent (44%) of voters say Palin has the better experience while 48% say Obama has the edge. Among unaffiliated voters, 45% say Obama has better experience while 42% say Palin.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters say that Palin’s speech helped McCain’s chances of becoming President while only 10% believe it hurt those prospects.

While Palin’s numbers are stunning today, it remains to be seen how the Alaska Governor’s numbers will hold up through the next two months. She has made a tremendous first impression, but the country will get to know her a lot better between now and November

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I like her better than the two choices we have! I would still take Hillary over Palin any day, but i have to say Palin is a great representative for hunters, mothers, and the middle class. With all of that said there is still one problem with her! She isn't running for President! She should step out and run as an independent! She would probably when it!

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I would still take Hillary over Palin any day, but i have to say Palin is a great representative for hunters, mothers, and the middle class.


Are you kidding??? :shock:

Hillary is against every gun you own or ever think about owning, she would ban hunting in a New York Minuite (pun definitely intended) she would tax you to oblivion and you would take her ANY DAY over Palin...something not right about that pal...
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You can cry :baby: all you want . I made alot of cash when bill clinton was in office even though i was a republican thats the truth. They was alot of jobs and gas was cheap . I own my business and people was buying I payed my house off earlier and 3 cars .Than bought 10 acre farm . Than bush beat gore i voted for bush than it took about 4months .I notice the cash wasn't comeing in people getting layoff . And gas was going up so i sold my business .I"M DEBT FREE :nod: I was better off in the 90s I had more guns in the 90s IF that is the change their talking about count me in. :nod You just have to take the BLINDERS OFF GUY"S :check: :baby:

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jd casey wrote:You can cry :baby: all you want . I made alot of cash when bill clinton was in office even though i was a republican thats the truth. They was alot of jobs and gas was cheap . I own my business and people was buying I payed my house off earlier and 3 cars .Than bought 10 acre farm . Than bush beat gore i voted for bush than it took about 4months .I notice the cash wasn't comeing in people getting layoff . And gas was going up so i sold my business .I"M DEBT FREE :nod: I was better off in the 90s I had more guns in the 90s IF that is the change their talking about count me in. :nod You just have to take the BLINDERS OFF GUY"S :check: :baby:
So you'd sell your freedoms for more money. WOW! :bozo:
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:baby: :baby: :baby: The truth shall set you free :check: My dad fought in vietnam he told me freedom wasn't free . And he also gave me alot of history lessons.
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jd casey wrote: The truth shall set you free :check: My dad fought in vietnam he told me freedom wasn't free . And he also gave me alot of history lessons.
Yep, sure will. :lol: :arrow: :gunguy:
Maybe you should have served like your father. Then you might have a clearer understanding what he was trying to teach you. There is a lot at stake.
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THEY been preaching that for 15 years. Still have the blinders on :baby:

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jd casey wrote:THEY been preaching that for 15 years. Still have the blinders on :baby:
Maybe you should remove the passifier from your mouth, the blinders from your eyes and ear plugs from your ears and do some more research. This time pay attention. :lol: :?:

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