Progressive America

[Newt]

IN GOD I TRUST
REPUBLIC OF TEXAS CITIZEN


I used to think I was just a regular guy, but… I was born white, which now, whether I like it or not, makes me a racist. I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which by today’s standards, makes me a fascist. I am heterosexual, which according to gay folks, now makes me a homophobe. I am non-union, which makes me a traitor to the working class and an ally of big business. I am a Christian, which now labels me as an infidel. I believe in the 2nd Amendment, which now makes me a member of the vast gun lobby. I am older than 70 and retired, which makes me a useless old man. I think and I reason, therefore I doubt much that the main stream media tells me, which must make me a reactionary. I am proud of my heritage and our inclusive American culture, which makes me a xenophobe. I value my safety and that of my family and I appreciate the police and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist. I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist. I (and most of the folks I know), acquired a fair education without student loans (it’s called work) and no debt at graduation, which makes me some kind of an odd underachiever. I believe in the defense and protection of the homeland for and by all citizens, which now makes me a militant. Please help me come to terms with the new me… because I‘m just not sure who I am anymore! I would like to thank all my friends for sticking with me through these abrupt, newfound changes in my life and my thinking! I just can’t imagine or understand what’s happened to me so quickly!
Funny…it’s all just taken place over the last 7 or 8 years! As if all this crap wasn’t enough to deal with…I’m now afraid to go into either restroom!
Thank you, Nobama

[cris axtell/coal hill ken]

Great post Newt! I guess I'm in that basket of deplorables along with you and proud of it.

[fatboy]

We must realize that the democrats have taken all the misfits under their wing, to get their votes. The few good democrats, that have values, should not allow this. The low lives in this country should be resented. The actions of Obama have made things worse. He lights up the white house in rainbow colors for queers and such, but can't seem to light it up in red white and blue for veterans day or the fourth of july. The democrats have tried to make all the good traits and good actions of people seem bad, while taking people with no morales, good values, or common sense, and making their lifestyles seem acceptable. I believe that with Hillary, the misfits have found an ideal leader. Lying, cheating, corrupt, caniving, anti gun, pro gay, and that's just a good start of her traits. She will make the low lifes proud if she is elected. She is much smarter than Obama, and will be better at destroying our country and what good values we have left. The regular guy by hillary's description is not what I would want to be. If she wins the election, our standard of living will change for the worse. Election by deception at its best with her. Hopefully the democrats that have values will not vote for her.

[pabstman]

I'm young and ignorant but seem to think for myself. Please elaborate on your stories? I think we all can only speak from our own stories. I am straight down the middle and keep an open mind to who is wanting to lead our country. I have guns and have hunted for years but feel no threat of someone taking my guns or rights to hunt and do what I please. Guns are great but we need to keep them out of certain peoples hands. There are many good and bad things to our democracy. Why not keep a common sense approach to things and realize we all need each other. Lets not be naïve to the fact that republican or democrat, all our politicians in my eyes are not put in office by the middle class. We need to know who finances these political offices, then and only then we as the American people would stand up and make a change. Lets face it, from what we came from 8 years ago to now....our economy is doing good and who ever can't face the fact that a black man with a Muslim name can't have credit for what our economy is doing, then who can we praise? Like I said before I and we can only speak from our own experiences. We as people need to keep an open mind that not everyone has had it as good as ourselves or the next guy. I just ask that regardless of party or side you take, to stop and think about our society as a hole, black or white, male or female. We need a stronger country and wholesome togetherness that no matter what, we all stick together and say lets not stay divided as a country and come together to change for the best of this nation. Lets show our young people that we can agree and make a difference, or at least if not agree come to the table and have a conversation to become stronger. May we all become better examples to the youth of our society. Thanks.

[Newt]

So you believe Obama and Hillary have been the great healers of the nation.

When was the last time third rate countries were shooting across the bow of our warships.
Russia and China are constantly harassing us with military threats. Korea is working as fast as possible toward the ability to bomb us with a nuclear bomb.
ISIS is fighting us with weapons that Hillary shipped to Lybia. How did that happen? Her vast experience in International affairs is the reason she should be trusted as Commander in Chieftess of the Military.
Obama is down sizing our military.
Iran is threatening to bomb us, working toward a delivery system, and Obama is giving them money.
Every thing is cool. We know Muslims are a peaceable religion.
Drive around your town and count the number of vacant buildings that were businesses ten years ago.
Google "National Debt" and notice the upturn since Obama took office.
How many terrorist attacks the last eaight years vs the number the previous eight years.
How many black men have died in Chicago in the last eight years.
How many cops have been killed doing their jobs in the last four years.
If you believe your post about conditions improving in the this country then you must be taking advantage of the legal marijuana laws.

After eight years of Obama the USA is weakest in international affairs since WW II.
This country is more divided than any time since the Civil war.
More people distrust the government than any time since I was born, 74 years.
The MSM is as distrusted as the government.
But to Progressives, everything is going according to plan.

[Rabbithoundjb]

How can anyone believe that the economy is better now than 8 years ago.

Lowest US labor participation rate since 1978.
over 94 million available workers out of the labor force.
more people added to welfare than where on it when Reagan was president.
God I could go on and on about how much worse it actually is.

[pabstman]

You guys pounce on a guy and draw judgements, thats whats wrong with our country. We shouldn't worry about the size of our military its the intelligence we need. The next war will be cyber warfare. Look at the late submarine to be developed. ...biggest ever and takes half the man power. Jobs are there people just have to go get them. To be naive and think we have only loss jobs because who was in office the last 8 years is ignorant. Look at the job loss due to automation. Economy is doing very well and like it or not you have to realize it.

[Rabbithoundjb]

When you can show data and statistics, actual facts and not just what you think, I may stop laughing at your post. What I posted is easy to find and there's lots more where that came from. I have a buddy made that same argument, jobs are there. He was going to find my buddy a job through all of his many connections, that was 3 years ago. GOOD jobs are not on every corner just begging someone to come and take them. To think the economy is doing very well is ignorant.

[Newt]

To be naive and think we have only loss jobs because who was in office the last 8 years is ignorant. Look at the job loss due to automation. Economy is doing very well and like it or not you have to realize it.

Are you just trolling?

The economy is not doing well. We are drowning in debt. We have another generation that doesn't have marketable skills, and desire to work period, as long as mom and pop will let them live in the basement. Are you one of those? If so I understand why you think the economy is doing well.
Those basement dwellers, many who have a degree, and student loan debt that they never expect to pay off. Guess who pays?

[Newt]

Nothing to worry about. China is our friend.

Clinton lawyer may have exposed entire server to ChinaPosted on 10/21/16 at 5:06 pm
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Hillary Clinton's lawyer may have allowed hackers to obtain all of the former secretary of state's emails by reviewing the contents of her private server on a laptop tied to Chinese cyberspies, a House Republican charged on Friday.

Heather Samuelson was one of the Clinton aides who sifted through the private email server used during Clinton's tenure at the State Department, and helped decide which would be designated as personal messages and which were work-related. That's when the potential Chinese hacks may have taken place, because she used two laptops made by Lenovo, a company with ties to the Chinese government that has sold laptops for years with malware pre-installed on the computer.

State Department officials have been banned from using Lenovos since 2006. In 2015, the company admitted to installing a program called "Superfish" on 43 different computer models, "specifically the models used by Heather Samuelson for reviewing classified emails," as Goodlatte emphasized.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clint ... le/2605231

No worry, Hillary has assured us there was nothing classified on her server. Comey Confirmed it and his word is as good as Obama's.

[bluemouse]

You gotta love these liberals that use color over character to defend the lies being feed to them. Obb
aler is the most racist lying pos ever to try to lead a nation. I am surprised obbaler care was not brought up to say what a great job obbaler has done to move the country forward. But then again you can never expect a liberal to tell the truth about the ACA that it is nothing more than a tax on hard working young people in this country. Liberals are willing to vote for a crimmal that has corrupted The justice system just to tow the line and that speaks volumes on how dense they are.

[pabstman]

Ok guys tell me how Trump plans to cut taxes and get rid of our debt? The math doesn't work. I'm straight in the middle and give credit where credit is due. I wish there was better option out there than Hillary and Trump trust me. Touch on the campaign finance issue. Please do, I would like to see your opinions on that. Thanks for the conversation. Who on this post is of retirement age but still working? Please answer if you would like you don't have to if you don't feel comfortable. I'm 29, married with 2 wonderful kids, and hate to think of the future for my kids. its a tough world out there. So bad, I'm from the projects and raised up poor but now make a good living and think i am raising my kids to be responsible citizens. I've live off the government and know many nights there was a need for help. My mom worked but could barely provide we got help from subsidies but it wasn't much. I'm thankful for those things. Most you guys don't know what its like. Like I said from my first post, i can only speak from my experiences. The problem with helping people isn't the programs we have in place, its the wastefulness of how we allow these programs to be taken advantage of.
Different subject: Flat tax what's your take on that?
Like I said thanks guys. Love the conversation and I love to learn so please educate me. I just feel instead of jumping to conclusions and judging and pointing fingers let discuss and learn and grow together, hey and maybe we can agree on something....

[littlewoody]

I'm young and ignorant but seem to think for myself. Please elaborate on your stories? I think we all can only speak from our own stories. I am straight down the middle and keep an open mind to who is wanting to lead our country. I have guns and have hunted for years but feel no threat of someone taking my guns or rights to hunt and do what I please. Guns are great but we need to keep them out of certain peoples hands. There are many good and bad things to our democracy. Why not keep a common sense approach to things and realize we all need each other. Lets not be naïve to the fact that republican or democrat, all our politicians in my eyes are not put in office by the middle class. We need to know who finances these political offices, then and only then we as the American people would stand up and make a change. Lets face it, from what we came from 8 years ago to now....our economy is doing good and who ever can't face the fact that a black man with a Muslim name can't have credit for what our economy is doing, then who can we praise? Like I said before I and we can only speak from our own experiences. We as people need to keep an open mind that not everyone has had it as good as ourselves or the next guy. I just ask that regardless of party or side you take, to stop and think about our society as a hole, black or white, male or female. We need a stronger country and wholesome togetherness that no matter what, we all stick together and say lets not stay divided as a country and come together to change for the best of this nation. Lets show our young people that we can agree and make a difference, or at least if not agree come to the table and have a conversation to become stronger. May we all become better examples to the youth of our society. Thanks.

Are you PM brother ? Or big mike brother ? What meds are you on ?

[Newt]

Pabst you are so wrong. Many folks my age grew up just as poor as you. For the record when I was young the only subsidy poor people received was red beans, cheese, rice and powdered milk. That still left us poor, and inspired us to get and education and get a job. I joined the Navy at age twenty because there was no future of permanent employment until we fulfilled our military obligation. It was called the military draft. After military service I went to college on $200. a month GI Bill and my wife working. You can say that was government assistance. It was, but I spent seven years earning it, five of those years were on a submarine, half of those five years were under water on patrol. That was called the Cold War. The missile submarines were a deterrent to the Soviet Union planning a pre-emptive Nuclear Attack on the United States.
Today, poor people have Nikes, TVs, air conditioners, and free cell phones. Obama even removed the Clinton/Gingrich law which required welfare recipients to look for a job.
Congratulations on taking advantage of your opportunities. Sounds like your children are fortunate to have you guiding them to meet their needs.

If you believe Obama has united the races in this country and made the world safer, and the country stronger, then there is a problem with your perception. Since the Civil Rights movement in the 60's Black people have been used as a pawn for the democrat party. They promise them everything and give them ghettos.
What does BLM promise young black people. Are they going educate them. Are they going give them jobs. Are they going to clean up the drug problem, are they going to clean up gangs and gang violence.
If the Obama economy is doing so great,
How about doing a search on Black unemployment in 2006 vs 20016.
Black Women
Black Men
Black Youth.

Did you know that the income of black families rose faster during Reagans Administration than at any other time.
The MSM tries their best to keep that stuff secret.

[pabstman]

Ok thanks guys. Little woody not sure where your thoughts were going? Trying to have a discussion. Truthfully woody I had a couple drinks last night but no meds sir. And no I don't know PM or big Mike. Please don't judge me for wanting to learn. I haven't said any of you guys are right or wrong. Just giving my views, thought and opinions.

Newt we went from economy to race and how the blacks are struggling with gangs, guns and violence and don't want to work??? We can shift gears....
It starts with education and opportunity as far as getting those people out of those situations. It starts somewhere and I'm not educated enough to know where. I do think people on welfare should be drug tested. You are most likely to grow up becoming something close to what you were raised around. That's the cycle you see with this gun violence and drugs and crime. Most of them are from uneducated disciples of welfare dependence. Good programs in place to help people but when do we pull the rug out from there feet is the tough decision???? Drug screening would do wonders....Please share your thoughts and refrain from passing judgement. I don't know you guys and you don't know me. I'm just looking to learn and have a conversation.

Back to the economy I'm putting 2 words out there for you to think about... Convergence and Depreciation
I truly believe the economy is doing well at least where I am from, but to say we haven't lost some manufacturing job here where I live, would not be truthful. But there are a lot of jobs out there and everywhere I look I see "hiring". Tell me what you guys are seeing? Thanks.