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G O P and Veterans

Post by Pine Mt Beagles » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:29 am

GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans

War on Error

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Bill's Blocked By Republican's Since President Obama Took Office.

David Gregory, John McCain, and the media aren't covering this story so we have to.

Here's a concise extraction for easy viewing for those who are INTERESTED IN VETERANS ISSUES and need to know which party supports veterans and which party does not.

The rejected Bills are named:

H.R. 466 – Wounded Veteran Job Security Act became H. R. 2875.

H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act

H.R. 1171 – Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization

H.R. 1172 -- Requiring List on VA Website of Organizations Providing Scholarships for Veterans

H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act of 2009

H.R. 1803 -- Veterans Business Center Act

H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act

DETAILS OF BILLS REJECTED BY REPUBLICANS:

H.R. 466 – Wounded Veteran Job Security Act – This bill would actually provide job security for veterans who are receiving medical treatment for injuries suffered while fighting in defense of their country. It would prohibit employers from terminating
employees who miss work while receiving treatment for a service-related disability.

H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act – This bill would provide for assistance to help veterans who are currently unemployed with their expenses while retraining for the current job market.

H.R. 1171 – Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization – This bill would reauthorize programs in support of homeless veterans, to assist them with job training, counseling, and placement services through the Department of Veterans Affairs through 2014.

H.R. 1172 -- Requiring List on VA Website of Organizations Providing Scholarships for Veterans which does nothing more than direct the Department of Veterans Affairs to include information about scholarships for veterans.

H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act of 2009 – Here’sanother bill in support of those who have fought for their country, passed by House Democrats and blocked from becoming law by Republicans.

This would increase the amount paid by the VA to disabled veterans for necessary home structural improvements from $4,100 to $6,800 for those who are more than 50% disabled, and from $1,200 to $2,000 who are less than 50%, disabled. This means, if a veteran lost the use of his legs in service of his country, the country will pay for the wheelchair ramp so that he can live at home.

By the way, the last time this ceiling was lifted was in 1992. There isn't even a fiscal reason for being against this bill, as the total cost of this bill, according to CBO estimates, would be a “whopping” $20 million. That's about a quarter (25 cents) per family of four.

H.R. 1803 -- Veterans Business Center Act – This bill would set up a Veterans Business Center program within the Small Business Administration, which would specialize in such programs as grants for service-disabled veterans, help them develop business plans and secure business opportunities. In other words, folks, it would create jobs and offer opportunities those who have fought in defense of our country.

H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act – This bill essentially combines a number of other bills that Republicans had blocked in the Senate previously, and adds a few elements. The bill would again establish a Veterans Business Center Program; .... it would establish a Military Entrepreneurs Program; ...
Republicans Vote Against Increased VA Funding
Two billion to rescue our ailing VA system as new vets flood the system? Not necessary. apparently.
From the Washington Post: (with thanks to jmarshall on our comment board)

"Republicans beat back a Democratic attempt to provide almost $2 billion in additional health care funding for veterans. rejecting claims that Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals are in crisis."

VA hospitals are doing just fine. huh? Tell that to Jeremy Lewis or Denver Jones - just two of the thousands of Iraq vets who came home to months of bureaucracy and delayed treatment. But it's not just Iraq vets who think the VA needs some help.

Pathetic.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by bluemouse » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:10 pm

What a clown you are pinemooch. Trump has done more than your babbling hero in six months for vets than the idiot you worship has in the last eight years. Your lies and bs again prove your just a babbling sheep with no understanding to the truth. Pull up your idiot hero message to America for the fourth AND explain that pos is for the American people. You suck at lying clown!

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Pine Lakes » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:04 pm

This is what Rufus is too dumb to understand. These bills that are put to vote by democrats don't come with an appropriation plan, already have similar bills enacted, or are slush funds for democrats to get rich from. Democrats kill these bills because they refuse to consider any amendment ideas put forth by Republicans, and they know that will be the result which in turn they will use in an attempt to deface their opposition. It's classic Saul Alinsky behavior and Rufus doesn't care because he feels he's entitled to other people's money. Why should his politics reflect differently?

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by S.R.Patch » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:16 pm

All I keep hearing in the hollows of my mind are my fellow Goper's chanting, Sequester, sequester, sequester...........
Eight yrs with no movement can kill a bowel, so it is not had to understand how what was a working body is slow to get going again... :hammer: ... and how the other foot with the wrong shoe still doesn't change things... :argue:
The 240 million from the Drug Lobbyist this first quarter is still not gone through yet... :eyes: ... need more to dull the pain of it all.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Newt » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:54 pm

Veterans aren't important. Planned Parenthood, Politician Perks, Teachers. Government Worker's Pensions, and Student Debt are the primary need of the country.


Yesterday I was running beagles with a buddy. He grew up in a family of democrats but lately he is having second thoughts. He mentioned the give away programs, maybe old news, but he mentioned a fat lady in Georgia with six kids whose EBT card was unfunded due to a glitch in the computer system. She was outraged that he children were hungry. My buddy's solution was to deliver a truck load of beans and potatoes and let them have as many as they wanted and nothing else. I pointed out that would be good for the kids but not for business. Politicians don't give a darn about the hungry nor the veterans. Its the arms dealers and the potato chip and hotdog makers that are important.

SNAP: $15B spent on junk food


Chris Edwards

February 22, 2017

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) aims for recipients to “make healthy food choices within a limited budget.” SNAP is supposed to “permit low-income households to obtain a more nutritious diet.”

However, the lofty goals of federal programs often differ from the actual results. It turns out that about $15 billion of SNAP benefits are for junk food. Apparently, recipients are not making the nutritious and healthy choices that the government promised.

SNAP, or food stamp, benefits totaled $67 billion in 2016. Food stamps can be used to buy just about any edible item in grocery stores other than alcohol, vitamins, and hot food. But exactly what is being purchased by the program’s 44 million recipients has been mainly shrouded in secrecy—until now.

https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/sn ... ign=buffer


Those folks that make that Junk Food gotta eat too. They make bigger contributions to the political parties.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Pine Mt Beagles » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:51 pm

Unread post by Newt » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:54 am

Veterans aren't important. Planned Parenthood, Politician Perks, Teachers. Government Worker's Pensions, and Student Debt are the primary need of the country.

Newt
Who do you think,,benefits from Planned Parenthood ,,Veterans,because you republicans keep cutting their benefits.
Veterans
Police
Active Military
Firefighters
Teachers
Fast food workers
Wal Mart employees
Bank tellers
Americans who work two and three jobs.
You have no idea what planned parenthood is.

The number one Employer in America the Government,without Government you would have starved to death long ago.Who do you think is working for the Government,your family,friends and neighbor's.

Since Education Like Health Care is Costantly under attack from republicans,without student loans there would be no education in America except the VERY WEALTHY YOU KNOW THE ONES WHO OWN YOU.
AND,, TEACHERS THE WORST PAYED,MOST NECESSARY AND THANK LESS JOB IN AMERICA,FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN MILITARY,OR POLICE,OR ANYONE ELSE TEACHERS SHAPE THE COUNTRY.

NOW YOU REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST ALL OF THESE MORE ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS.

BUT,HECK YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY,SINCE YOU HELP THEM.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Newt » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:31 pm

Should have known that you would be a week behind, Its the RUSSIANS again. Even the old senile Senators McCain and Graham have shown their true allegiance to the democrats. Its a good thing McCain was a pilot, who would follow him to the rear. He probably would have been shot for insubordination if he had been in the infantry. I certainly wouldn't wanted him on a submarine with me.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Rabbithoundjb » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:34 am

The #1 employer is government, now that PMB shows the depth your head is up your azz. Government employess no one, the tax payers do. Geez a sheep can easily be led to slaughter.

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Post by Pine Mt Beagles » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:01 pm

Taxpayers,,pay government employees,,but the tax payers don't hire don't manage don't fire.

But you will never learn,,

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Rabbithoundjb » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:06 am

What a dumbazz, what the he!! do you think voting is. everyone of these government agencies are run by people the tax payers directly or indirectly hired. And I don't get it, what a moron.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Pine Mt Beagles » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am

NO YOU REALLY DONT GET IT.

BUT,, BEING A REPUBLICAN,WITH, A REPROBATE MIND,,AND,,FIRM SUPPORTER OF RUSSIA,I DONT EXPECT YOU WILL.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Rabbithoundjb » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:35 pm

Exactly what I expected, you can't refute your stupidity so you just give us more of it, LMAO!

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Pine Mt Beagles » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:15 pm

THE ONLY THING IMPORTANT TO REPUBLICANS ARE THE ELITE,1%.

In 2014,,,the GOP had a chance to prove that it could fund veterans’ health care as eagerly as it borrowed for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Long before the current VA crisis, an event described as “a gift from God” by Dr. Ben Carson, Senate Republicans had a chance to vote on a landmark bill. Before the Senate vote, organizations devoted to the needs of veterans and their families offered widespread support to the Comprehensive Veterans Health and Benefits and Military Retirement Pay Restoration Act of 2014.

On January 21, 2014 the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) wrote a letter to Sen. Bernie Sanders endorsing the legislation. The IAVA believed, “This legislation would accomplish many of the goals for which veterans and military service organizations have been advocating for years, including strengthening the Post-9/11 GI Bill, expanding advance appropriations for more of the VA’s budget... and much more.” The Veterans of Foreign Wars was just as enthusiastic in its support, and wrote a similar letter explaining how S.1982 would help veterans:

If signed into law, this sweeping legislation would expand and improve health care and benefit services to all generations of veterans and their families. Most notably, it would expand the current caregiver law to include all generations of veterans and provide advance appropriations to ensure monthly compensation and pension as well as education payments are protected from future budget battles. The bill also offers in-state tuition protection for recently transitioned veterans, improves access to mental health and treatment for victims of sexual assault in the military, and authorizes construction of more than 20 Community Bases Outpatient Clinics to serve veterans in rural and remote communities.

Echoing the IAVA and VFW, The Paralyzed Veterans of America stated that “This legislation marks one of the most comprehensive bills to ever be considered in the Senate or House.” The PVA went on to state that, “If enacted, S. 1982 would accomplish some of the highest priorities for Paralyzed Veterans and its members.” VetsFirst, another group devoted to disabled veterans, also explained “this legislation goes a long way toward fulfilling many of the current and future needs of our disabled veterans.”

Furthermore, The American Legion lent “its full support“ to the bill since it “addresses several high priority issues for The American Legion, like repealing the 1 percent retiree COLA provision, funding the stalled CBOCs for the VA, increasing access to health care for veterans at VA, employment and education fixes, and other programs that are important to us.” In addition, The American Legion explained that the Comprehensive Veterans Health and Benefits and Military Retirement Pay Restoration Act of 2014 was essential to veterans in other ways:

The American Legion also appreciates the many areas in which this bill addresses needed attention regarding Military Sexual Trauma counseling, additional training and assistance for Traumatic Brain Injury victims, improvements and much-needed updates to the Dependency and Indemnification Compensation program, VA’s Work-Study program, and its On-the-Job Training program.

Therefore, with so much positive feedback from veterans groups about the bill, it’s only logical to assume that Senate Republicans would do everything possible to ensure it became law. REPUBLICANS,HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED VETERANS ,EXCEPT DURING CAMPAIGNS.

Unfortunately, S.1982 was killed by Senate Republicans, with a vote of 56-41 — only Republicans Senators voting nay and with only two Republicans voting for the bill. The logic behind every vote against the bill being Republican rests in the following statement from North Carolina Senator Richard M. Burr:

With $17 trillion in debt and massive annual deficits, our country faces a fiscal crisis of unparalleled scope. Now is not the time, in any federal department, to spend money we don’t have. To be sure, there’s much to like in the Sanders bill. And if those components were presented as separate, smaller bills, as part of a carefully considered long-term strategy to reform the VA, hold leadership accountable and improve services to veterans, we would have no problem extending enthusiastic support.

Also, Republicans called for sanctions on Iran to be included within the veterans’ bill, and since it wasn’t included within the bill, they voted against the landmark legislation. As stated by Republican Leader Mitch McConnell regarding the Iran sanctions, “There is no excuse for muzzling the Congress on an issue of this importance to our own national security.”

So how did veterans feel about the February 26, 2014 vote where 41 Republicans voted against a sweeping bill to help veterans? American Legion National Commander Daniel M. Dellinger expressed his frustration with the outcome by stating, “There was a right way to vote and a wrong way to vote today, and 41 senators chose the wrong way. That’s inexcusable.”

BUT,,,VETERANS STILL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR THESE TRAITORS,,

As for Senator Richard Burr, he recently received a scathing letter from the Veterans of Foreign Wars pertaining to his open letter to veterans groups about the VA crisis. In addition, Burr received another response letter from the Paralyzed Veterans of America stating that, “Rest assured, you do not speak for or represent the interests of Paralyzed Veterans’ members-veterans with spinal cord injury or dysfunction or any other VSO.”

It should not be overlooked that veterans have been committing suicide, enduring long wait times for disability benefits, and dealing with a wide array of others issues ignored by Congress for the past decade. Also, the most indignant Republicans like Sen. Burr of North Carolina have also voted against S.1982 and now blame bureaucratic issues, rather than funding problems, as the cause of the VA crisis. Therefore, it’s safe to say that the latest VA crisis and the deaths of veterans in Arizona served as convenient opportunity for the GOP to feign indignation over issues veterans have faced for years.

What better way to circumvent responsibility for underfunding the VA and voting against veteran’s legislation than blaming big government? Somebody should tell Sen. Burr and the GOP that we funded both wars with “money we didn’t have” and we should fund veterans health care as enthusiastically as we paid (borrowed) for two war.

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by bluemouse » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:21 pm

Pinemmoch your liberal cut and paste prove your nothing more than a liberal hack. How soon you forget your babbling hero said vets need to take care of their self since they signed up own their free accord. CLOWN

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Re: G O P and Veterans

Post by Newt » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:57 pm

PM, i remember you saying that you are a Marine. Did you make it to Viet Nam? Did Hanoi Jane and Senator Kerry welcome you home and give you thanks for serving. Did you meet Bill Clinton while in service?
Did Lyndon Johnson's dedication to the war cement your love for the democrat party?

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