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[Pine Mt Beagles]

Independent facts.

Now republicans are wanting Clinton to tell them how to fix health care so they can ignore what she says but still Blame Democrats.

Now they finally admitted they can't Govern and want to spread,, their,, Shame to Democrats,and Democrats will likely fall for it ,,and Do what they always DO AND PUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST AND TRY FIXING HEALTH CARE,,

BUT,,THE FACTS ARE IF REPUBLICANS HAD NOT SAID NO TO EVERYTHING PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WANTED WHEN THE ACA WAS VOTED ON AND PASSED HEALTH CARE WOULD BE GREAT EVEN BETTER THAN IT IS NOW.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES TODAY IS ACA IS FAILING.

[Rabbithoundjb]

So PMB tell us how many paid the penalty because they couldn't afford the ACA.
Tell us how many outside the medicare expansion have plans with the ACA.
How many that aren't getting a subsidy are purchasing the ACA.
Lastly how many that had insurance now don't.


Then you can tell me how great the ACA is working.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

You Tell me this,,

Is America, as A Whole, not Just YOU,, Better off with the ACA OR WITH OUT THE ACA.

YES,, AMERICA IS FAR BETTER OFF WITH THE ACA ,,In my opinion.

Fact Check
Says,,,,,,,,
Party Lines Red InsertThe Line: The Affordable Care Act is hurting families.
The Party: Republican
Several ads attacking the Affordable Care Act make the general claim that the law is “hurting” families. It’s true that some who bought their own insurance on the individual market could end up paying more. But millions of uninsured families will gain coverage under the law, many of them through free or low-cost Medicaid or Children’s Health Insurance Program coverage. And millions of insured families will get federal subsidies to help pay for coverage.
The “hurting families” claim has been a talking point from Americans for Prosperity over and over.

As we’ve explained before, some Americans who buy their own insurance will pay more, and some will pay less, depending on the individual. So, some families could be “hurt” or “struggling,” while others are helped with lower costs. How many? We don’t know.

But we do know that millions of uninsured families will gain coverage under the law — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that there will be 25 million fewer uninsured Americans due to the ACA as early as 2016. And many — 12 million — will gain free or low-cost Medicaid or Children’s Health Insurance Program coverage. (Research by the Urban Institute and RAND Corp. indicates that millions of the previously uninsured have already gained coverage.)

Those with adult children also could benefit from the law’s provision allowing dependents up to age 26 to be on their parents’ plan (the administration estimates 3 million young adults have gained coverage because of that requirement). Others will save money on insurance through subsidies, which are available to a family of four buying its own coverage and earning between $23,850 and $95,400 (that’s between 100 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level).

For instance, in Arizona, where the AFP ad said that “struggling families” were facing “higher costs,” the Medicaid expansion would provide insurance to an additional 240,000 Arizonans, as estimated by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, and enable the state to continue Medicaid coverage for 50,000 adults without children in their homes. An additional 210,000 residents who were previously eligible for Medicaid are expected to sign up now, prompted by the law, as estimated by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The expansion makes Medicaid available to those earning up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level, which is $32,913 for a family of four. The eligibility level pre-ACA varied by state.

Louisiana, Mississippi and Nebraska are among the 19 states that have decided not to expand Medicaid under the law. But even there, KFF estimates that 58,000, 57,000 and 20,000 residents, respectively, would newly join Medicaid. These folks would have been eligible previously but will now sign up, likely prompted by news of the law and the individual mandate to have insurance or pay a fine. If the states do decide to expand Medicaid, KFF estimates 398,000 would be added to the rolls in Louisiana, 231,000 in Mississippi, and 88,000 in Nebraska. More than half of the uninsured in Louisiana and Mississippi earn 138 percent of the poverty level or less. In Nebraska, 26 percent to 47 percent of the uninsured are in that category.

Those who qualify for subsidies in 2017 to buy their own coverage on the exchanges include an estimated 313,000 in Arizona, 344,000 in Louisiana, 204,000 in Mississippi, and 122,000 in Nebraska, according to KFF estimates. Qualifying for subsidies, however, doesn’t necessarily mean their costs would be lower than what they had been paying for insurance before. The subsidies are on a sliding scale, and are based on a maximum percentage of income that individuals would pay for a benchmark plan where they live.

For instance, those earning 100 percent of the poverty level would pay a maximum of 2 percent of their income for insurance, with subsidies making up the difference, while those earning up to 400 percent of the poverty level pay a maximum of 9.5 percent of their income. The Kaiser Family Foundation further explains: “If the premium that a person or family faces for the benchmark plan in their area is higher than the maximum percent of income defined in the law for their income, they are eligible for a tax credit and the tax credit is equal to the difference between the premium for the benchmark plan and the defined percent of their income. The benchmark plan is the second-lowest-cost plan in the silver cost-sharing tier offered through the marketplace for the area where they live.”

It’s a bit complicated. A family of four earning $90,000, then, would pay a maximum of $8,550 for the year for the second-cheapest “silver” plan, or $713 per month. On HealthCare.gov, we found cheaper insurance — $562 per month — for a bronze-level plan for a hypothetical family of four (nonsmokers) living in Adams County in southwest Mississippi. The second-lowest-cost silver plan, with a lower deductible, was $715 per month, after subsidies. (The KFF subsidy calculator showed similar results.)

Whether any of that is a good deal depends on the family and various individual factors — such as health status and the coverage it had before. It’s just one example of how blanket statements about “struggling” or “hurting” families attempt to paint the law in black and white when reality isn’t so clear-cut.

One more example: We recently fact-checked another AFP ad in which a Michigan mother says that her family’s “new plan is not affordable at all” and that the law is “destroying the middle class.” But we found her situation is an example of how families can benefit from the law. The Michigan family of seven could have selected a cheaper exchange plan, as opposed to the unsubsidized private plan it chose, but the family did not want the children to be on the Children’s Health Insurance Program.

[Pine Lakes]

As an independent,,,

I would never ever compare republicans to a Democrats ,,not at this point in history.

Republicans,,stand for the top 1% Period,that is it nothing else.they believe nothing and stand for nothing.

Democrats believe in

health care for all

Equal rights for all

Voters rights

Income equality

Jobs for all

National security

Fighting terrorism

Republicans don't believe in any of this.

Just facts

Your are the total opposite of independent, and that is dependent. I would love to read the stupidity you type describing your desire for healthcare for all, equal rights for all, voter's rights, income equality, and national security. I'm sure it will be more of the same regurgitated BS that you always spew which has been debunked a thousand times, but don't let that stop your ignorance from showing itself. Better yet, how about you describe an example of each offense that you suggested.

[Rabbithoundjb]

The 1st problem PMB is you have no opinion. You just fall in line with the rest of the stupid dependent followers that make up sadly a lot of this countries population.

The ACA is a joke and the country is much worse off with it.

[cris axtell/coal hill ken]

ACA = higher medical costs and poorer quality of care. I spent 37 years in the health care industry and have seen it first hand.

[littlewoody]

The 1st problem PMB is you have no opinion. You just fall in line with the rest of the stupid dependent followers that make up sadly a lot of this countries population.

The ACA is a joke and the country is much worse off with it.

+1 once again pm got his punka$$ kicked with truth !

[Pine Lakes]

You Tell me this,,

Is America, as A Whole, not Just YOU,, Better off with the ACA OR WITH OUT THE ACA.

YES,, AMERICA IS FAR BETTER OFF WITH THE ACA ,,In my opinion.

Fact Check
Says,,,,,,,,
Party Lines Red InsertThe Line: The Affordable Care Act is hurting families.
The Party: Republican
Several ads attacking the Affordable Care Act make the general claim that the law is “hurting” families. It’s true that some who bought their own insurance on the individual market could end up paying more. But millions of uninsured families will gain coverage under the law, many of them through free or low-cost Medicaid or Children’s Health Insurance Program coverage. And millions of insured families will get federal subsidies to help pay for coverage.
The “hurting families” claim has been a talking point from Americans for Prosperity over and over.

As we’ve explained before, some Americans who buy their own insurance will pay more, and some will pay less, depending on the individual. So, some families could be “hurt” or “struggling,” while others are helped with lower costs. How many? We don’t know.

But we do know that millions of uninsured families will gain coverage under the law — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that there will be 25 million fewer uninsured Americans due to the ACA as early as 2016. And many — 12 million — will gain free or low-cost Medicaid or Children’s Health Insurance Program coverage. (Research by the Urban Institute and RAND Corp. indicates that millions of the previously uninsured have already gained coverage.)

Those with adult children also could benefit from the law’s provision allowing dependents up to age 26 to be on their parents’ plan (the administration estimates 3 million young adults have gained coverage because of that requirement). Others will save money on insurance through subsidies, which are available to a family of four buying its own coverage and earning between $23,850 and $95,400 (that’s between 100 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level).

For instance, in Arizona, where the AFP ad said that “struggling families” were facing “higher costs,” the Medicaid expansion would provide insurance to an additional 240,000 Arizonans, as estimated by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, and enable the state to continue Medicaid coverage for 50,000 adults without children in their homes. An additional 210,000 residents who were previously eligible for Medicaid are expected to sign up now, prompted by the law, as estimated by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The expansion makes Medicaid available to those earning up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level, which is $32,913 for a family of four. The eligibility level pre-ACA varied by state.

Louisiana, Mississippi and Nebraska are among the 19 states that have decided not to expand Medicaid under the law. But even there, KFF estimates that 58,000, 57,000 and 20,000 residents, respectively, would newly join Medicaid. These folks would have been eligible previously but will now sign up, likely prompted by news of the law and the individual mandate to have insurance or pay a fine. If the states do decide to expand Medicaid, KFF estimates 398,000 would be added to the rolls in Louisiana, 231,000 in Mississippi, and 88,000 in Nebraska. More than half of the uninsured in Louisiana and Mississippi earn 138 percent of the poverty level or less. In Nebraska, 26 percent to 47 percent of the uninsured are in that category.

Those who qualify for subsidies in 2017 to buy their own coverage on the exchanges include an estimated 313,000 in Arizona, 344,000 in Louisiana, 204,000 in Mississippi, and 122,000 in Nebraska, according to KFF estimates. Qualifying for subsidies, however, doesn’t necessarily mean their costs would be lower than what they had been paying for insurance before. The subsidies are on a sliding scale, and are based on a maximum percentage of income that individuals would pay for a benchmark plan where they live.

For instance, those earning 100 percent of the poverty level would pay a maximum of 2 percent of their income for insurance, with subsidies making up the difference, while those earning up to 400 percent of the poverty level pay a maximum of 9.5 percent of their income. The Kaiser Family Foundation further explains: “If the premium that a person or family faces for the benchmark plan in their area is higher than the maximum percent of income defined in the law for their income, they are eligible for a tax credit and the tax credit is equal to the difference between the premium for the benchmark plan and the defined percent of their income. The benchmark plan is the second-lowest-cost plan in the silver cost-sharing tier offered through the marketplace for the area where they live.”

It’s a bit complicated. A family of four earning $90,000, then, would pay a maximum of $8,550 for the year for the second-cheapest “silver” plan, or $713 per month. On HealthCare.gov, we found cheaper insurance — $562 per month — for a bronze-level plan for a hypothetical family of four (nonsmokers) living in Adams County in southwest Mississippi. The second-lowest-cost silver plan, with a lower deductible, was $715 per month, after subsidies. (The KFF subsidy calculator showed similar results.)

Whether any of that is a good deal depends on the family and various individual factors — such as health status and the coverage it had before. It’s just one example of how blanket statements about “struggling” or “hurting” families attempt to paint the law in black and white when reality isn’t so clear-cut.

One more example: We recently fact-checked another AFP ad in which a Michigan mother says that her family’s “new plan is not affordable at all” and that the law is “destroying the middle class.” But we found her situation is an example of how families can benefit from the law. The Michigan family of seven could have selected a cheaper exchange plan, as opposed to the unsubsidized private plan it chose, but the family did not want the children to be on the Children’s Health Insurance Program.

Just admit to being a communist for God's sake. A single payer system ran by the federal government still seems like a good idea to you? You don't understand how a monopoly increases cost? You don't understand that everyone that couldn't afford healthcare...... still can't afford healthcare? You don't understand that those that covered the cost are still covering the cost? You can't comprehend that now we have to fund a ginormous federal program on top of that? You don't understand how the government is determining the minimum healthcare plan for individuals and fining them if they do not meet their standard? You don't understand how similar this is to the housing bubble? You can't comprehend that when it does implode there will be no insurance companies left to provide insurance? You don't understand that socialized healthcare throughout the world has severely lowered the quality of care while increasing the cost?

Affordable Care Act my ass. It's the Unaffordable Crappy Care Act and it needs to be dismantled completely. You would know this if your head wasn't firmly lodged up Obama's ass.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Call me Communicist,Socialist,whatever BUT DONT CALL ME REPUBLICAN,,,,THERE IS NOTHING WORSE,

OVER THE LAST DECADE I HAVE PROVEN JUST HOW BRAIN DEAD, IMMORAL ,YOU GUYS ARE,MO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

BUT,,YOU CONTINUE TO EAT WHAT TRUMP LEAVES YOU,,YOU GUYS ARE FAKE,,,PLAIN AND SIMPLE,FAKE AMERICANS FAKE CHRISTIANS.

SUPPORTERS Of RUSSIA,,WALKING ON THE GRAVES OF All THE FALLEN SOILDERS.

In Arlington Cemetery,,their are - 4 - Graves,,,(( Among the many)) A White Man ,,A Black Man,,A Hispanic Man,,and A Muslim,,,,,Which ones are Americans.
Not one, of you republicans can answer that question.

[bluemouse]

I will call what you are pinemooch a clown. Your stupidity makes me laugh!

[Rabbithoundjb]

I can answer this PMB, your posts are fake made up nonsense. You have only proven that you are a dependent sheep.

[cris axtell/coal hill ken]

Republicans would not want someone like you in there party. They want independent thinkers and people who want to save this country.