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Big Mike
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Trump lie 1,763

Post by Big Mike » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:16 pm

(Credit: AP/Steve Helber)
The coal miner’s president: Trump moves to weaken black lung protections

Trump praised coal miners on the campaign trail, but hasn’t been treating them well in office
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Matthew Rozsa12.15.2017•1:54 PM

President Donald Trump is considering weakening a regulation intended to protect the health of one of the demographics he has often claimed to care most about — America's coal miners.

A notice labeled "Regulatory Reform of Existing Standards and Regulations; Retrospective Study of Respirable Coal Mine Dust Rule" was published on Thursday by the White House for the Labor Department’s Mine Safety and Health Administration, according to the Charleston Gazette-Mail. The stated purpose of the reevaluation would be to determine how a 2014 rule passed under President Barack Obama regulating coal miners' exposure to coal dust "could be improved or made more effective or less burdensome."

When the rule was first implemented, it utilized new technologies and increased sampling in mines so that workers would have real-time information about dust levels. This would in turn allow both the miners and operators to minimize the chances that workers would be overexposed to coal dust, which has caused an epidemic of black lung disease among coal miners.

In spite of a 1969 law that increased coal mine safety requirements, more than 76,000 coal miners throughout America died of black lung disease between 1968 and 2014. Many of those deaths occurred among coal miners whose entire mining careers took place after the 1969 law had taken effect.

In response to the announcement that the coal dust rule would be reevaluated, the National Mining Association released a statement saying, "While we’ve not had any discussions with the agency regarding the retrospective study, we think it might shed valuable information on operation of the rule since its promulgation and ways it might be improved to provide further protection for miners while eliminating unnecessary implementation requirements for operators."

Meanwhile a spokesman for mining company Murray Energy — whose owner, Bob Murray, was a major Trump backer in the 2016 election — released a statement saying that it is "pleased that the Federal Mine Safety and Health Administration is reexamining the Obama administration’s Respirable Dust Rule, which fails to protect coal miners in any way."

Although coal mining has been on the decline in Appalachia over the past few years, that isn't as a result of Trump's policies. Part of that is something Trump can’t control. And part of it is something Trump doesn’t want to control. The chief struggle facing coal miners is that natural gas, solar and wind power can outcompete coal due to their low cost and abundance. Making matters worse for coal miners themselves, the coal mining jobs are often the best-paying ones in their area, and job retraining programs have a spotty track record of actually helping individuals who use them.

This latest policy undermines Trump's longstanding claim to be an ally of coal miners, which he bragged about when he pulled out of the Paris climate accord. "I happen to love the coal miners," Trump proclaimed at the time.

Trump may have let his true feelings about coal miners be known during a Playboy interview in 1990, however.

"The coal miner gets black-lung disease, his son gets it, then his son," Trump told Playboy. "If I had been the son of a coal miner, I would have left the darn mines. But most people don’t have the imagination — or whatever — to leave their mine. They don’t have 'it.'"
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Re: Trump lie 1,763

Post by Newt » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:26 pm

"The coal miner gets black-lung disease, his son gets it, then his son," Trump told Playboy. "If I had been the son of a coal miner, I would have left the darn mines. But most people don’t have the imagination — or whatever — to leave their mine. They don’t have 'it.'"
Big Mike

Mike, what is wrong with that statement?

About fifty years ago I married a girl from East Tennessee Mountains. She grew up like myself in poverty. Most of the young women who grew up in "The Hollar" graduated HS got married and worked at the glove plant or some other garment plant. That is all there was to do around Mountain City, TN. She told me, "I didn't have the money to go to college but I heard about a nursing school in Abingdon, Virginia". She went to class during the day and worked at night for three years to earn her RN Certificate. There were many others who did the same. They grew up poor but they had a desire to improve themselves.
Her brother in law, went to business school then left "The Hollar" and went to Ohio to work in the steel mills. He worked long and hard. Eventually he left the Mid West to work in a business in the South. Later the owner retired and he bought the foundry. He ran the business for about twenty years, then sold out. He has enough money to meet his needs for the rest of his life plus enough to fund his deadbeat kids for the next twenty years. (You see, the young-uns neither had the desire nor imagination to get a job to support themselves.) Much like the coal miners who staid in the mines. I'm not saying the miners had the same opportunity, sometimes, like myself, they just didn't know there were other opportunities. I was fortunate, I joined the Navy and learned a lot about the opportunities that were available.
Those are two examples of young people with a desire to do better and escape the poverty of Appalachia. They could have worked in a coal mine. They wanted a better safer life.

Why do you believe that government can run an economy better than free individuals who let the market dictate our standard of living.
Look no further than the Soviet Union, China, Venezuela, and East vs West Berlin to get a measure of outcomes. when government makes the industrial decisions. Bet you can't name one product produced in those countries that was competitive world wide until China developed a free market. At one time Venezuela was the richest country in South America. Chavez took control, what happened to their economy?

Here is an example of how our government handles our money.

Catherine Austin Fitts joins Alex Jones live via Skype to break down how there is 29 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon and an audit of the Department of Defense has been ordered under Trump. ... der-trump/

With all the crap going in the last decade with the IRS, DOJ, Fusion GPS, Hillary's server, while a sailor is in prison for taking a picture inside a submarine and sending it to his parents, and you want the govt to have power over our industry.
Thanks Obama. If you like your healthcare Insurance, you can keep you HC Insurance. If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr.
Don't worry about ISIS, Junior Varsity.
Tell Mr Putin, as soon as I win re election, I will be free to sell him all the Uranium that he wants. Be sure to give him my Swiss Bank Account number for deposits. BR549.

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