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The World knows ,,,,republicans,,,,cannot and will not Govern,just a fact !

Now all over the world, Countries know that Americans are struggling to keep America as A Democracy .America is under constant attack from Russia using spies put in place over the years,((. Trump,Miller,Cushner,Kelly,Ryan,Mcconnel,etc. )) some like trump turned traitor in 1993.Now the all out open ASSUALT on America is taking its toll.A a Tax Give away where 80% of it goes to Foreign investors with a few pennies going to workers and for a limited time.America has lost all of our Allies around the World especially in the Middle East when trump drove a bigger wedge between Israel and Palistine.
To the point America as a leader of the free world is sinking fast.

2018 Trust Barometer Reveals Record-Breaking Drop in Trust in the U.S.

January 22, 2018

NEW YORK, Jan. 21, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- The 2018 Edelman Trust Barometer reveals that trust in the U.S. has suffered the largest-ever-recorded drop in the survey's history among the general population. Trust among the general population fell nine points to 43, placing it in the lower quarter of the 28-country Trust Index. Trust among the informed public in the U.S. imploded, plunging 23 points to 45, making it now the lowest of the 28 countries surveyed, below Russia and South Africa.

The collapse of trust in the U.S. is driven by a staggering lack of faith in Republican government, which fell 14 points to 33 percent among the general population, and 30 points to 33 percent among the informed public.

The remaining institutions of business, media and NGOs also experienced declines of 10 to 20 points. These decreases have all but eliminated last year's 21-point trust gap between the general population and informed public in the U.S.

"The United States is enduring an unprecedented crisis of trust," said Richard Edelman, president and CEO of Edelman. "This is the first time that a massive drop in trust has not been linked to a pressing economic issue or catastrophe like the Fukushima nuclear disaster. In fact, it's the ultimate irony that it's happening at a time of prosperity, with the stock market and employment rates in the U.S. at record highs. The root cause of this fall is the lack of objective facts and rational discourse."

Conversely, China finds itself atop the Trust Index for both the general population (74) and the informed public (83). Institutions within China saw significant increases in trust led by government, which jumped eight points to 84 percent among the general population, and three points to 89 percent within the informed public. Joining China at the top of the Trust Index are India, Indonesia UAE and Singapore.

The demise of confidence in the Fourth Estate is driven primarily by a significant drop in trust in platforms, notably search engines and social media. (( Now Flooded with Russian Propaganda ))Sixty-three percent of respondents say they do not know how to tell good journalism from rumor or falsehoods or if a piece of news was produced by a respected media organization. The lack of faith in media has also led to an inability to identify the truth (59 percent), trust Republican government leaders (56 percent) and trust business (42 percent).

This year saw a revival of faith in experts and decline in peers. Technical (63 percent) and academic (61 percent) experts distanced themselves as the most credible spokesperson from "a person like yourself,"

which dropped six points to an all-time low of 54 percent.

"In a world where facts are under siege, credentialed sources are proving more important than ever," said Stephen Kehoe, Global chair, Reputation. "There are credibility problems for both platforms and sources. People's trust in them is collapsing, leaving a vacuum and an opportunity for bona fide experts to fill."

Business is now expected to be an agent of change. The employer is the new safe house in global governance, with 72 percent of respondents saying that they trust their own company. And 64 percent believe a company can take actions that both increase profits and improve economic and social conditions in the community where it operates.

This past year saw CEO credibility rise sharply by seven points to 44 percent after a number of high-profile business leaders voiced their positions on the issues of the day. Nearly two-thirds of respondents say they want CEOs to take the lead on policy change instead of waiting for government, which now ranks significantly below business in trust in 20 markets. This show of faith comes with new expectations; building trust (69 percent) is now the No. 1 job for CEOs, surpassing producing high-quality products and services (68 percent).

"Silence is a tax on the truth," said Edelman. "Trust is only going to be regained when the truth moves back to center stage. Institutions must answer the public's call for providing factually accurate, timely information and joining the public debate. Media cannot do it alone because of political and financial constraints. Every institution must contribute to the education of the populace."

If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered

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LMAO! PMB you are so ignorant that you don't realize that is EXACTLY why Trump was elected, because people don't trust this establishment government. LMAO you are one dumb partisan leftist blind bafoon.

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Pm I see your still stuck on retard !
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Saw a meeting @ Davos summit with Donald surrounded by foreign CEO's lapping praise on Don for the tax break to their foreign coffers. As a matter of fact, they were ALL foreign Country owners of America.
I'm not sure we still own what made America great... :eyes:

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There ya have it, cutting your nose off to spite your face. I guess it would just be better for them to have their buisnesses out of the US with no tax breaks and hey creating no jobs here either. The democrat idea to a strong economy, just keep as many people milking the ones who are working as you can.

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S.R.Patch wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:07 pm
Saw a meeting @ Davos summit with Donald surrounded by foreign CEO's lapping praise on Don for the tax break to their foreign coffers. As a matter of fact, they were ALL foreign Country owners of America.ran by
I'm not sure we still own what made America great... :eyes:
What did make America great?

Was it government control or freedom?
Was it capitalism or socialism.
Was it central planning or entrepreneurship.
Was it work ethic or freeloading?

Under the last administration we had more government control, more socialism, more central planning, more freeloading and a faster debt growth than at any other time in our nation's history.
Would you feel more comfortable investing your retirement in a country/company ran by one of the Davos CEOs or by a community organizer?

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S.R.Patch wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:07 pm
Saw a meeting @ Davos summit with Donald surrounded by foreign CEO's lapping praise on Don for the tax break to their foreign coffers. As a matter of fact, they were ALL foreign Country owners of America.
I'm not sure we still own what made America great... :eyes:
Yeah, I bet that dug deep in your crawl. If it isn't rich american CEO's then it's those darn foreign ones. Your hate for the rich is obvious even if you don't want it to be. Unless of coarse they are affiliated with the correct party(see the Clintons or Obama). You are so bought and paid for that you would praise Obama for belittling his own country and cast dissension on Trump for putting America and Americans first in his agenda, or at least claiming to do so. You'd appear more concerned about "what made America great" by hoping that his words are true and being critical if they prove not to be. As it stands you could careless about this country and at the very least appear to certainly favor communism. I'll give you credit for one thing and that is you are loyal to the bitter end. You, Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, Lee, Wasserman-Shultz, Sanders, and the Clintons can all stand proudly in solidarity. Good on ya sir!

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And, it is clear you have such a hate and despite for your fellow American that you would sell your soul and wallow in the glee of greed and respite of honest men, and trying to reason with ya'll is hopeless.
Like a snake, you twist and turn the facts and reason to suite your own misguided blind selfishness.
Power and wealth is not a bad thing, if, the gain of it is used for the good it can do. You blind hogs only eat yourselves fat, racing for the day of the slaughter.
There is no sign of the fear of God in you, all you relish will be lost.

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S.R.Patch wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:43 pm
And, it is clear you have such a hate and despite for your fellow American that you would sell your soul and wallow in the glee of greed and respite of honest men, and trying to reason with ya'll is hopeless.
Like a snake, you twist and turn the facts and reason to suite your own misguided blind selfishness.
Power and wealth is not a bad thing, if, the gain of it is used for the good it can do. You blind hogs only eat yourselves fat, racing for the day of the slaughter.
There is no sign of the fear of God in you, all you relish will be lost.
Typical, completely and utterly speak poorly of accomplishments that appear to be good for America because of who may be responsible, get called out on it, then revert to accusing me of what you are guilty of. You don't use reason. You talk in BS circles trying to guise said BS with cleverness. Anyone that reads our posts would likely think of you what you so acutely accused me of being. You lumping me in with the rich is funny too, I will give you that, but trying to imply that I'm a "blind hog only eating myself fat, racing for the day of the slaughter" tells the story here for anyone that knows me. It's also telling how you hold judgement on the rich according to the "good" done with their money, except for Obama, Soros, and the Clintons of coarse. Should the poor and middle class not be held to the same standard? Neither's money should be of concern to you and if it is then there is certainly no sign of the fear of God in you. So tell me Patch, how is it that I sold my soul and what "glee" exactly am I wallowing in. From my point of view, I see this disagreement more a matter of principle that leads to party affiliation, but the lack of the first leads to the partnership of people binding ties with the democrats. I think you know this too. I say that because you have never openly praised or belittled any democrats. You only openly criticize republicans and the right. Maybe you believe they're all wrong, but can't bring yourself to be critical of democrats due to some sort of affiliation. If I'm wrong then show me your post that proves it because I couldn't find a single example to suggest such. If there's any hate here, it is yours not mine. I honestly wish you no ill will and I can say that my respect to you is firm unlike Rufus who reverts to accusations that are so morally wrong that his mental condition is in question. So while I'm not a gluten hog or a crawling snake, I openly admit that I am a sinner knowing that they are forgiven even if I don't think I deserve such grace, and God help us all should all I relish be lost.

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:34 am
The World knows ,,,,republicans,,,,cannot and will not Govern,just a fact !

Now all over the world, Countries know that Americans are struggling to keep America as A Democracy .
The core of your erroneous ways lies here and it is what I've been trying to explain to for a long time now so I doubt you'll understand it now. The United States of America is not a democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic. I'm sure you would love to have the power to vote people's rights away unless they were yours of coarse. There is no stability in Democracy. Here in America, the Constitution is the law that is not supposed to be infringed upon. Which is why its longevity is second to none in history. Somehow you and your kind don't understand that. To cut to the chase, I'm calling you a marxist because that is exactly what you are.

To help you here is an explanation of the difference between a Democracy and a Republic:
"In a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters. In a "pure democracy," the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority."

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PM, do you know what the U S Gov't Form 302 is?

Its the form used by government agencies to record the accused testimony. One of the charges against Assistant Attorney General, McCabe that after an interrogation, and the person's testimony has been recorded and signed by the accused, McCabe gave the agent instructions to change the testimony.

We know now that McCabe told people to change 302 forms. A thought just came to mind. What if we learn that Strzok (who interviewed Flynn) ended up changing the 302 form in order to show Flynn committing perjury? It's very possible he did this at the direction of McCabe. Remember, another agent was in the room and said he didn't see anything wrong with Flynn's testimony.

Even if not true, the fact Strzok is the guy who interviewed Flynn, Flynn's guilty plea is sure to be thrown out of court. Strzok has no credibility and Flynn's defense attorneys are going to attack the prosecution's (already flimsy) case.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01- ... more-heads

"FBI Director Christopher Wray was allegedly "shocked to his core" after viewing the four-page FISA memo Sunday night - hours before asking Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe to step down, according to journalist Sara Carter."

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