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What I predict will happen is.......WHATEVER THE FOLKS IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE WANT TO HAPPEN!
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I think that a president has veto power and it takes 75% of congress vote to override that veto. No congress has enjoyed that kind of majority for many years.

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man just think if clinton would had veto the nafta bill. i bet their would be more products with that sticker that would say made in the good ole usa rather than made in china. this new president has a dem congress and the majority of the senate just how commercial could this government get.

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I predict the chosen one for CHANGE will select the same appointees Bill Clinton did and make Hillary his SOS. :bozo:

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Pike Ridge Beagles wrote:I predict the chosen one for CHANGE will select the same appointees Bill Clinton did and make Hillary his SOS. :bozo:
I believe you will be right. Well, partially right. I think he will take from both the Clinton and Bush regimes and your right about Hillary being SOS. But I also think you will see him reach across and use the best of both of the Democratic and Republican Parties and make them a part of his cabinet. You will see Republicans as a part of his cabinet, a fair and smart move that you would have never seen in a McCain cabinet. I do not see this as a bad thing, for the first time in a long time it won’t be about who’s side your on or what you label yourself as {Democrat -vs- Republican}, it will be who is best for the job, regardless of which Party your from, and finally, away with the good-ole-boy buddy system. There will be more accomplished and more working together instead of the constant battle within our own. I’m not saying everything is going to be perfect, but it will be better.

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Dr. Chris wrote:
Pike Ridge Beagles wrote:I predict the chosen one for CHANGE will select the same appointees Bill Clinton did and make Hillary his SOS. :bozo:
I believe you will be right. Well, partially right. I think he will take from both the Clinton and Bush regimes and your right about Hillary being SOS. But I also think you will see him reach across and use the best of both of the Democratic and Republican Parties and make them a part of his cabinet. You will see Republicans as a part of his cabinet, a fair and smart move that you would have never seen in a McCain cabinet. I do not see this as a bad thing, for the first time in a long time it won’t be about who’s side your on or what you label yourself as {Democrat -vs- Republican}, it will be who is best for the job, regardless of which Party your from, and finally, away with the good-ole-boy buddy system. There will be more accomplished and more working together instead of the constant battle within our own. I’m not saying everything is going to be perfect, but it will be better.
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I know Obama only has one or two people to his left, but most normal people wouldn't consider the following as reaching across to the right;

Pete Rouse, Dick Durbin, Tom Daschle, Hillary Clinton and Greg Craig (Bills lawyer in the Lewinsky case) and of course you've got the democrat
Rahm Emanuel
Upset with a Democratic pollster during a long-ago congressional race, Emanuel mailed him a big dead fish. Outraged over what he regarded as disloyal Democrats during Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign, he stunned dinner companions by rattling off names of the offenders, each time stabbing the restaurant table with a dinner knife and shouting, "Dead."

Now there's someone who will facilitate reaching across the isle, especially when he gets along so well with his own party.

These are just some of the appointments already made. Of the 5 listed 3 are old Chicago buddy's, so I guess that blows your theory about getting rid of the buddy system out of the water.
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Tim H wrote:I know Obama only has one or two people to his left, but most normal people wouldn't consider the following as reaching across to the right;

Pete Rouse, Dick Durbin, Tom Daschle, Hillary Clinton and Greg Craig (Bills lawyer in the Lewinsky case) and of course you've got the democrat
Rahm Emanuel
Upset with a Democratic pollster during a long-ago congressional race, Emanuel mailed him a big dead fish. Outraged over what he regarded as disloyal Democrats during Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign, he stunned dinner companions by rattling off names of the offenders, each time stabbing the restaurant table with a dinner knife and shouting, "Dead."

Now there's someone who will facilitate reaching across the isle, especially when he gets along so well with his own party.

These are just some of the appointments already made. Of the 5 listed 3 are old Chicago buddy's, so I guess that blows your theory about getting rid of the buddy system out of the water.
Pete Rouse, Dick Durbin, Tom Daschle, Hillary Clinton, Greg Craig, Rahm Emanuel ? I am not sure where you get your info. But as of last night this is the way it is, but until it is a done deal anything can change. And I really don’t have a clue what “Chicago buddies” you are talking about. Out of these ten picks, three are Republicans and other officials and aides are also in the making that split between the Parties. Lets keep it real, don’t be biased or exaggerate. Stick with the facts. He is being fair and using wisdom and surrounding himself to be successful. He has a lot at stake, he is not going to risk failure. He will pick the best of the best, whether they are Democrat or Republican in order for him to be successful. Which will only enhance us all. Even the Republicans in Washington are giving him positive feedback.

Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton - New York senator

Chief Military Adviser: Adm. Mike Mullen - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – From Los Angeles, CA

Secretary of the Treasury: Tim Geithner - President of the New York Federal Reserve, he has played a key role in the government's response to the financial crisis and has worked closely with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. From New York

Commerce Secretary: Bill Richardson - Governor of New Mexico

Attorney General: Eric Holder - Top Justice Department aide in the Clinton administration – From New York

Secretary of Defense: Unknown – Choices look to be between Robert Gates, Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., and Sen. Jack Reed. From the way it looks, it will be Gates for another year and then Chuck Hagel. – Senator of Nebraska

Homeland Security Secretary: Janet Napolitano - Arizona Governor

CIA Director: John Brennan - Former director of the National Counterterrorism Center – From Virginia

Secretary of Health and Human Services: Tom Daschle - Former Senate Majority Leader from South Dakota

Director, Office of Management and Budget: Peter Orszag - Current director of the Congressional Budget Office – From Washington

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Yea, let's keep it real. AP stands for Associated Press. This is no exaggeration. Maybe since you couldn't see what "Chicago Buddies" I was talking about you should re-read the 1st post and count the numbers again. This article is obviously bias towards Obama but clearly shows his intents.

WASHINGTON (AP) - President-elect Barack Obama is forming a White House leadership team that combines experienced Washington insiders who can help build a bridge with Congress and trusted associates who share his Chicago roots.

The West Wing appointments that Obama has announced in recent days stand in contrast to those of George W. Bush, who relied heavily on fellow Texans for top posts. They had virtually no experience dealing with Congress, nor did the former Texas governor who was their boss.

Obama comes to the Oval Office with an ambitious list of campaign promises that will require Capitol Hill's cooperation and approval, and his team is heavy on the legislative experience that Obama is lacking. He resigned his Illinois Senate seat Sunday after just under four years of service, half of which he spent out on the presidential campaign trail.

During that time, Obama had Pete Rouse as his Senate chief of staff to take care of his business on the Hill. On Sunday, Obama named Rouse to be a senior adviser in his White House. Rouse has 24 years of experience as a top Senate aide, also running the offices of former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota and Obama's Illinois colleague, Democrat Sen. Dick Durbin.

Other names that have begun to roll out in recently come with varying degrees of Washington experience. Obama is drawing on accomplished Chicago friends, longtime congressional aides and former Clinton administration officials, including some with ties to the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

The new chief of staff, Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., combines the Chicago roots and the legislative connections. Vice President-elect Joe Biden's chief of staff Ron Klain held the same role for Vice President Al Gore.

Obama has picked Mona Sutphen and Jim Messina as his deputy chiefs of staff. Like Rouse, Messina has served as chief of staff for three different lawmakers _ Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont, Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y. _ and has a vast network of relationships to show for it that he can tap on Obama's behalf.

Philip Schiliro, who has more 25 years experience working for Congress, is Obama's liaison to Capitol Hill.

Biden, a longtime senator from Delaware, has said he intends to be a frequent voice on the Hill and use his 36 experience as a lawmaker to promote the administration's agenda. That's a departure from Vice President Dick Cheney, who only appeared occasionally on the Hill to meet with Republican members and cast a tie-breaking vote.

Obama is keeping some campaign advisers close in the West Wing. He has named longtime confidant Valerie Jarrett as a senior White House adviser and is expected to bring along Robert Gibbs as press secretary and David Axelrod as another senior adviser.

The senior adviser title is a vague one, but those who fill it can have held vast authority. Karl Rove and Karen Hughes had the title at one time in Bush's White House, and each had very different but influential role _ Rove was the political strategist with a big say over policy while Hughes was the chief communications specialist.



Now let me help shed light even on the list you provided in which you are attempting to put Obama in the best light you can.

Is this your example of your statement
But I also think you will see him reach across and use the best of both of the Democratic and Republican Parties and make them a part of his cabinet.
Hillary Clinton- Pretty sure she is a Democrat and a Liberal.

Adm. Mike Mullen- Currently in this position in the military. It is normal to leave these positions alone for a time to smooth the transition and not disrupt the military.

Tim Geithner- Democrat

Bill Richardson- Democrat

Eric Holder - Top Justice Department aide in the Clinton administration. I would say another Democrat.

Sec. of Defense- Again a military assignment, read the above explaination.

Janet Napolitano- A democrat.

John Brennan- An Obama adviser since 2007, another Democrat.

Tom Daschle- A democrat, way left liberal.

Peter Orszag- Former Clinton advisor. Democrat.

Like I said before, when you're as far left as Obama, even these people seem to be a reach to the right. Obama can appoint who he wants but don't try to paint your bias and partisan picture and expect us to believe it.
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Obama will NOT put prominent Republicans in his cabinet, Dr Chris you are out of your mind. You could be clinically mentally ill from the appearance of your posts. You have your head so far up Obama's a.ss that you cannot do ANYTHING but support him can you??


This post was started to predict what would happen in an Obama administration. You have predicted some things AFTER the election (my predictions were Pre Election) and you havent even gotten those correct. Obama has put no one but old Clinton cronies in office. CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN...those of us who were NOT fooled by this smoke and mirrors communist could see things like this happening. Even the far left kooks that supported him from the beginning are starting to get miffed by his appointments. They thought he was for CHANGE too and would install even wackier candidates for these positions. He is nothing but a socialist puppet and will go down in history as the biggest fraud we have ever had serve as President of the United States.


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And I really don’t have a clue what “Chicago buddies” you are talking about.



The first seven words of this sentence are the only truth you have spoken since you came to this board.



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Tim & Tony, two of a kind. Settle down for one second and listen. I only deal in facts, and if I get something wrong I will be the first to admit it.

The article you are referring to was written November 16, 2008, By NEDRA PICKLER!

What I am referring to was written Nov. 21, 2008. (CBS/AP) CBS News has confirmed: here is the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/ ... arch_story I’m going by direct statements from Obama and his staff, not some quack reporter trying to get a story published.

You were reading Pickler’s opinions, what she heard as rumors and what little truth she did know, and even that I’m sure she twisted. Pickler is a well known “bull dog” that is misleading and likes to stir the pot to get attention. You can’t believe a word this woman writes. Pickler is married to Eric Conner, an employee of Fox News

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Pickler was hired by the Detroit offices of Associated Press shortly after graduating from Michigan State University. In March 2000, she transferred from the Lansing bureau to the Washington, D.C. bureau where she won the annual John L. Dougherty award for her work covering Michigan's congressional delegation.

AP promoted Pickler to cover national political issues in December 2002. She was the lead reporter covering the Democratic Party candidates in the 2004 United States Presidential Election. After that election, Pickler worked as a White House correspondent until September 2006, leaving to cover national politics, including the 2008 United States Presidential Election. According to Austin American-Statesman reporter Ken Herman, President Bush bid her farewell personally, saying: "Nedra, baby, I’m gonna miss you. I’m sad you’re leaving."

In 2007 the AP sent Pickler to Indonesia to investigate Senator Barack Obama's childhood education. She interviewed some of Obama's childhood friends and teachers and reported that, contrary to some rumors then in circulation, he had been educated in Roman Catholic and public schools.

Her reporting of both presidential elections has repeatedly engendered controversy, including factual objections raised by other national political journalists.

In her coverage of the 2004 presidential race, Pickler acknowledged having misquoted Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean. In January 2004, Dean had mentioned by name one U.S. Senator and one U.S. Representative who had shared his stand at a certain moment on whether the United States should go to war against Iraq in 2003; but Pickler misquoted Dean as maintaining that no member of Congress had shared his stand.

In June 2004, an article by Pickler on higher education costs was criticized by the Columbia Journalism Review for accepting Bush advisor Steve Schmidt's criticism of John Kerry as fact without evaluating the accuracy of Schmidt's claim. CJR found Schmidt's claim to be misleading.

On 27 March 2007, Pickler wrote that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (who had declared his candidacy 10 February) had "delivered no policy speeches and provided few details about how he would lead the country" in his campaign up to that point in an article entitled "Is Obama All Style and Little Substance?". Three weeks earlier, a major American daily newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, had reported what it termed "a major foreign policy speech" by Obama.

During the season of presidential primaries, on 23 February 2008, Pickler wrote an article[11] that drew approximately 15,000 letters of complaint. Pickler detailed Republican Party efforts to arouse skepticism about the patriotism of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, relying chiefly on statements by Roger Stone, a Republican party operative often implicated since the 1972 reelection campaign of U.S. president Richard Nixon in "dirty tricks" political maneuvers featuring incivility and/or clandestinity.

On July 8, 2008, Pickler authored an analysis that the presumptive presidential nominees, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, had opposite stances on the policy goal of balancing the federal budget by the end of the next presidential term (January 2013). However, McCain and Obama were actually in concurrence on this issue according to a Bloomberg News report available prior to Pickler's analysis. The lead to Pickler's article stated that McCain's announced goal of balancing the federal budget "is not a goal he's [Obama] even trying to reach. Not only does Obama say he won’t eliminate the deficit in his first term, as McCain aims to do, he frankly says he’s not sure he’d bring it down at all in four years". However, this misrepresented McCain's own aim, according to a statement McCain's economic adviser had made the preceding day, 7 July to Bloomberg News. That same day, Bloomberg News reported, "[today McCain] revived a pledge he made in February to balance the federal budget. . . . In February, McCain said he would balance the budget by the end of his first term in 2013. He backed away from that goal in April. McCain senior economic adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin repeated the 2013 goal in a conference call before McCain's speech today. After the speech, Holtz-Eakin said: 'The senator has always pledged to balance the budget by the end of his second term.' A McCain second term would end in 2017."

Pickler's analysis of Obama's budget program did not mention either that McCain had reversed himself twice on the issue since April 2008 or that adviser Holtz-Eakin had reversed himself on the issue the preceding day. Talking Points Memo responded to Pickler's article by repeating the information from the Bloomberg News report. Pickler was criticized for the article in the Columbia Journalism Review.

After all this, On November 7, 2008, Pickler was the first reporter chosen by Barack Obama to ask a question at his first press conference as President-Elect.

Tim & Tony, Both of you guys need to take a blood pressure pill, calm down and then get your facts straight before you come on here and start blasting everybody that don’t agree with you. The point is, your wrong! Obama is not a baby killer, we are not baby killers. I don’t believe in abortion and Obama himself said “only if the mother’s life is in danger”. I am not trying to make Obama look a certain way. I am stating the facts of what he and his staff desire to do. I am not being biased at all. I am giving credit to both Democrats and Republicans and I am saying that both are needed and must be willing to work together. Read your own posts! Everybody else has. You tell me who is biased and who comes on here and degrades and puts down anybody that is not Republican? Worst part about it, you come on here with all this anger and rage, half truths blown out of proportion, calling people names, backing your thoughts up with quack reporting and you don’t have a clue what your talking about. Your both are all upset about an argument that you made up concerning information that don’t exist. That’s totally insane, get a grip.

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I am not trying to make Obama look a certain way. I am stating the facts of what he and his staff desire to do. I am not being biased at all.


Dude, you are seriously in need of counseling.


You cannot deny that Obama said this..."The first thing I will do if elected is sign the Freedom of Choice Act"...look up what the FOIC is pal, then tell everyone here that he isnt pro abortion.


You are delusional "Dr Chris".


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Dr Chris, where is my anger and rage? I am very calm but when someone wants to push their agenda and act as if there could be no other view but their own, then I will speak up.

Facts? Is it only a fact if you say so? Well, I referred to your "FACTS" in my last post to demonstrate your opinion contradicts your own "facts"
But I also think you will see him reach across and use the best of both of the Democratic and Republican Parties and make them a part of his cabinet.



Hillary Clinton- Pretty sure she is a Democrat and a Liberal.

Adm. Mike Mullen- Currently in this position in the military. It is normal to leave these positions alone for a time to smooth the transition and not disrupt the military.

Tim Geithner- Democrat

Bill Richardson- Democrat

Eric Holder - Top Justice Department aide in the Clinton administration. I would say another Democrat.

Sec. of Defense- Again a military assignment, read the above explaination.

Janet Napolitano- A democrat.

John Brennan- An Obama adviser since 2007, another Democrat.

Tom Daschle- A democrat, way left liberal.

Peter Orszag- Former Clinton advisor. Democrat.

Like I said before, when you're as far left as Obama, even these people seem to be a reach to the right. Obama can appoint who he wants but don't try to paint your bias and partisan picture and expect us to believe it.
These were comments to the contradiction within your own post. You make the claim that Obama is reaching across to republicans in the same post you put these names.

You put this in your post with the above list
He will pick the best of the best, whether they are Democrat or Republican in order for him to be successful.
You also put this,
Out of these ten picks, three are Republicans
Could you give the 3 names of the republicans on your list?

The list above are your examples of his appointees and you can't see the contradiction. Like I said, he can appoint whoever he wants but you can't support your statement. You accuse me of not using facts. I used your facts mostly and just because you don't like the source of other facts you want to dismiss them. Well, even by your own facts your statements are wrong and biased, of course if you're a democrat that is being balanced and reaching across the isle. In reality, I don't think you're biased, I honestly think you're just blinded by the Obama light. I acknowledge that you truly believe you are not being biased and partisan.
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