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22 WAYS TO BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT

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22 WAYS TO BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT:


1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion of the Christ" for financial gain only.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been In charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.

21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.

22. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the day off on Christmas Day but it's not okay to say "Merry Christmas."

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23 You have to be able to stunt free speach and whine when you don't get your way.

Just thought I'd add one---good ones though and all 22 are true.
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That's alright, I'll add another myself

24. You have to support socialists and anti-capitalists but yet sell dogs and stud services for your own personal gain.

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MAN -- IT'S NOT DEMOCRAT IT IS REPUBLICAN WHAT DID YOU DO, WAKE UP ON A HANG OVER WITH" KING GEORGE".AND LET HIM, WRITE THE SUBJECT FOR YOU" MAN" YOU KNOW HE DON'T READ.WRITE ,SPEAK ENGLISH,OH I KNOW DICK WAS IN THE BUNKER AND DIDN'T PROFF READ FOR HIM.YOU BETCHA,,,,,,,,,,,,
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE BEST DESCRIPTION OF" GEORGE BUSH" I HAVE EVER HEARD,BUT IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE DICK CHANEY TO MAYBE A LITTLE MORE.BUT YOU FORGOT A FEW THINGS LIKE, KILLING OVER A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE FOR OIL PROFIT AND,TURNING WALL STREET LOOSE ON MAIN STREET TO COMPLETELY BREAK THE MIDDLE CLASS, OH AND COMPLETELY IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION,SPYING ON CITIZENS,STRIP SEARCHING CHILDREN AT AIR PORTS IN THE NAME OF SECURITY,BAILING OUT THE WALL STREET BANKS AND KICKING ASIDE THE AUTO WORKERS,"BUT" KEEP ON WORKING ON IT ,, YOU WILL GET THE TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT A CONSERVATIVE REALLY WANTS TO BE,OH ONE MORE THING YOU HAVE TO SPEAK SPANISH BETTER THAN ENGLISH,JUST LIKE KING GEORGE,AND YOU SURE DON'T WANT TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE IN THE" KATRINA DISASTER" YOU HAVE TO SEND THAT MONEY OVER SEA'S,JUST ADD THIS TO YOUR LIST AND YOU WILL START GETTING CLOSE TO WHY KING GEORGE HAS A 22% APPROVAL RATING.JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE U.N. DON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND HASEN'T FOR QUITE SOME TIME.BUT I AM REALLY CONCERNED AS TO HOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO DEFEND HIM WHEN THEY TAKE HIM AND DICK IN FRONT OF THE UN FOR WAR CRIMES,GOING INTO A SOVERN COUNTRY AND OVER THROWING THE LEADER AND KILLING ALL WHO DON'T LIKE IT.BUT IM SURE YOU WILL THINK OF THE REST.JUST HANG IN THERE DON'T LOOSE FOCUS, THE REST WILL COME TO YOU.OH AND DON'T FORGET THAT THE CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS WHO HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN SEX AND HONOSEXUAL SCANDALS HAVE BEEN SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE FOR THE MOST PART,AND I THINK CHINA HAS BOUGHT MORE OF THIS COUNTRY IN THE LAST EIGHT , YEARS THAN EVER BEFORE .THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SOLD OUR SECRETS
TO CHINA OUR JOBS AND OUR WAY OF LIFE.I HAVE HELPED .ALL I CAN, YOU NEED TO DO CHANGE THE TITLE AND YOU WILL BE DOING GOOD......
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FUNNY YOU SHOULD BRING UP APPROVAL RATINGS, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS HAS A LOWER APPROVAL RATING THAN THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT :lol: , AND FOR SPEAKING SPANISH, IT WAS 9 OUT OF 10 OF THE ORIGINAL DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THAT WERE AGAINST MAKING ENGLISH THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE, WHILE 9 OUT 10 REPUBLICAN ONES WERE FOR IT, AND A SIDE NOTE: OBAMA IS FOR GIVING ILLEAGAL ALIENS DRIVER LICENSES, WONDER HOW MANY OF THEM WOULD SPEAK SPANISH!

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BUSH WAS AMONG THE FIRST FOR GIVING THE LISCENSE,BUT YOU MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE DEMS, A LOT OF THEM WANT TO JOIN BUSH AND GIVE AMNESTY TO THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY I AM 100% AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,
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But it sounded like you were trying to say it was all Bush, he has not been the most conservative to say the least, but he takes alot of unnecessary flak, sounds like we can agree on one thing Pine Mtn., no illegals

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Good grief Pine Mountain, you act like my Doberman trying to chase his non existant tail...you dont know what you are for or who to blame do you???

Your democrat god Clinton actually SIGNED NAFTA INTO LAW, have you forgotten that??? I suppose Bush used his Vulcan Mind Meld to force good ole Slick Willie to bring that one about huh...Conservatives have been wanting border restrictions for YEARS and they keep getting blocked by DEMOCRATS in border states...why??? VOTES is why. One of the reasons McCain lost was that conservatives cannot and should not forgive his treasonous actions regarding amnesty for illegals...I applaud your stance on immigration though, but I firmly believe you are misguided in your blame game.


Killing over 150000 for oil profit??? Thats too absurd to even get into. Liberal blogs have been spewing that mantra for years and it makes no sense...NO BLOOD FOR OIL?? What oil?? Why did we have gas spike to over 4 bucks a gallon if it was a war for oil???

You actually say he didnt want to help those affected by Hurricane Katrina...I suppose he really DID have the levies blown up like some have said...darn, couldnt keep that one secret could he...

THIS administration sold secrets to CHINA??? Again, that was Slick Willie that sold missile secrets to CHINA in exchange for CAMPAIGN DONATIONS...good lord pal, you dont even know history from the 90s???

Strip searching children at airports??? Please find and cite a few examples of this...if its happened you MUST be able to cut and paste, ala Dr Chris, some examples of where this happened...and if you do, please cite more than one. IF it has been a problem there must be numerous examples of children being strip searched, so post them....


Pine Mountain, your BDS...(Bush Derangement Syndrome) is well advanced...I would suggest you seek treatment. Maybe obama could wave his hands over your head and heal you....


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bluegrass wrote:Good grief Pine Mountain, you act like my Doberman trying to chase his non existant tail...you dont know what you are for or who to blame do you???

Your democrat god Clinton actually SIGNED NAFTA INTO LAW, have you forgotten that??? I suppose Bush used his Vulcan Mind Meld to force good ole Slick Willie to bring that one about huh...Conservatives have been wanting border restrictions for YEARS and they keep getting blocked by DEMOCRATS in border states...why??? VOTES is why. One of the reasons McCain lost was that conservatives cannot and should not forgive his treasonous actions regarding amnesty for illegals...I applaud your stance on immigration though, but I firmly believe you are misguided in your blame game.


Killing over 150000 for oil profit??? Thats too absurd to even get into. Liberal blogs have been spewing that mantra for years and it makes no sense...NO BLOOD FOR OIL?? What oil?? Why did we have gas spike to over 4 bucks a gallon if it was a war for oil???

You actually say he didnt want to help those affected by Hurricane Katrina...I suppose he really DID have the levies blown up like some have said...darn, couldnt keep that one secret could he...

THIS administration sold secrets to CHINA??? Again, that was Slick Willie that sold missile secrets to CHINA in exchange for CAMPAIGN DONATIONS...good lord pal, you dont even know history from the 90s???

Strip searching children at airports??? Please find and cite a few examples of this...if its happened you MUST be able to cut and paste, ala Dr Chris, some examples of where this happened...and if you do, please cite more than one. IF it has been a problem there must be numerous examples of children being strip searched, so post them....


Pine Mountain, your BDS...(Bush Derangement Syndrome) is well advanced...I would suggest you seek treatment. Maybe obama could wave his hands over your head and heal you....


Tony
lol this Doberman has a tail. Nafta was a Bush Sr. Baby, Clinton just had the misfortune of birthing it. Bush and his party arranged the whole thing and passed it. Clinton just came into office and signed it. Bush and the RepubliCan’ts gladly took the credit for it then, but when it failed and was a well known mistake you want to shift the blame to Clinton? Funny

I too am 100% against “illegals” and so are most Rep. and Dem. except the Dem. proposed that if we can’t stop it, then make them at leased pay their own way, until we can stop it. The only way to do that is give them a drivers license, make them legal and take their taxes, and at the same time work on a solution. It does not stop them from being here, but it’s better than whining about it, doing nothing and them living off the government free.

Why is a nuclear “power house” such as North Korea being treated differently from Iraq? OIL!
And this is why: George Bush Sr. The former president and ex-CIA director is not “unemployed” these days. He's been a member of Washington's Carlyle Group, a $12 billion private equity firm which employs a large number of former ranking Republicans, including Frank Carlucci, Jim Baker and Richard Darman. George Bush Sr. and colleagues open doors overseas for The Carlyle Group's "access capitalists." Bush specializes in Asia and has been in and out of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait (countries that revere him thanks to the Gulf War) often on business since his presidency. Baker, was working his network in the 'stans' before the ink was dry on Clinton's first inaugural address. The Bin Laden family (the friendly wing) is also invested in Carlyle. Carlyle's portfolio is heavy in defense and telecommunications firms, although it has other holdings including food and bottling companies. The Carlyle connection means that George Bush Senior is on the payroll from private interests that have defense business before the government, while his son is president. Hmmm. So, George W. Bush will, some day, benefit financially from his own administration's decisions, through his father's investments. What do the Persian Gulf, the Caspian Sea and the Balkans have in common? U.S. domination in these areas serves the interests of corporate multimillionaires such as Dick Cheney. As George Bush's secretary of defense, Cheney was chief prosecutor of Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Humanitarian rhetoric notwithstanding, the bombing of Iraq--which continues to this day--was primarily aimed at keeping the Persian Gulf safe for U.S. oil interests. Shortly after Desert Storm, the Associated Press reported Cheney's desire to broaden the United States' military role in the region to hedge future threats to gulf oil resources. Cheney is CEO of Dallas-based Halliburton Co., the biggest oil-services company in the world. Because of the instability in the Persian Gulf, Cheney and his fellow oilmen have zeroed in on the world's other major source of oil--the Caspian Sea. Its rich oil and gas resources are estimated at $4 trillion by U.S. News and World Report. The Washington-based American Petroleum Institute, voice of the major U.S. oil companies, called the Caspian region, "the area of greatest resource potential outside of the Middle East." Cheney told a gaggle of oil industry executives in 1998, "I can't think of a time when we've had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." And this is a quote from “2001”, think about what has happened since then: "George is true-blue for God, but he also has a soft spot for Mammon; and an even softer spot for Dick Cheney, who spent much of the last decade scheming with his fellow oil barons to get a pipeline from the virgin fields of the Caspian Sea -- where $4 trillion in profits are waiting for them through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. Cheney's business interests in oil and arms, temporarily divested while he helps direct American policy in energy and defense, rival those of the Bushes and bin Ladens. Or as the Chicago Tribune noted last year: 'War is big business, and Dick Cheney is right in the middle of it.'" --Chris Floyd, 10/1/01 - And this war is not about Oil? Funny

Hurricane Katrina? I think the video’s of him flying over as it was happening and video of him afterwards of him cracking jokes while people were right below him dying kind of made him look bad. And when he “questioned” of how much those people really needed help and was soooo slow to react? That kind of made him look bad. I don’t think he really wanted bad things to happen to them, I just think he is that stupid.

Secrets to China? - WASHINGTON — Six months ago, the Bush administration quietly eased some restrictions on the export of sensitive technologies to China. The new approach was intended to help American companies increase sales of high-tech equipment to China despite tight curbs on sharing technology that might have military applications. But today the administration is facing questions from weapons experts about whether some equipment — newly authorized for export to Chinese companies deemed trustworthy by Washington — could instead end up helping China modernize its military. Equally worrisome, the weapons experts say, is the possibility that China could share the technology with Iran or Syria. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/techn ... xprod=digg

Backscatter Body Scanner: Transport security authorities are trialing the new "X-ray backscatter" body scanner , which has been described by critics as a "virtual strip search". The scanner uses a low energy X-ray to reveal any objects, metal or otherwise, under a person's clothing, including body features. The testing will be entirely voluntary during the trial, “which will be put into action at all major airports and major security points” and is being undertaken to test how the new scanners would affect the flow of passengers through the security point. "It does see through clothing, but it's not a photographic image, it's a low-energy X-ray that reflects off the skin, "It will show the private parts of people, but what we've decided is that we're not going to blur those out, because it severely limits the detection capabilities. It is possible to see genitals and breasts while they're going through the machine, though." said Cheryl Johnson, general manager of the Office of Transport Security.

Tony, your BDS...(Bush Derangement Syndrome) is more than well advanced...I would suggest you seek treatment. Maybe a group of RepubliCant’s could wave their hands over your head and heal you....

I believe you would say or do anything to stick up for George Bush and the Republican Party, wrong or right means nothing to you. All that matters is everybody being Republican. That’s just dumb! I know there are bad, "real bad" Democrats but I also know there are bad, "real bad" Republicans. You need to wake up, there is not much difference between the two parties. Money Rules all and most from either party would sell their souls for a dollar. There are very few “real good men” left in the White House. Some are Republican and some are Democrat.

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DR CHRIS
THANKS,FOR THE INPUT I, READ WELL, BUT DON'T TYPE WORTH A DARN,ONE THING I THINK MOST, WILL AGREE ON IS THE FACT THAT MONEY RULES WASHINGTON,AND THE REST OF THE WORLD,---I HAVE NEVER MET -OLE BLUGRASS,,BUT I DON'T THINK HE IS A BAD GUY HE JUST GET'S BORED AND LIKES TO ARGUE A LITTLE, BUT HECK DON'T WE ALL.FROM WHAT I HAVE READ A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO VISIT THIS BOARD HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON MOST EVERYTHING "BUT IF IT CAME RIGHT DOWN TO IT I THINK AMERICANS WILL STICK TOGETHER ,SOONER OR LATER WE WILL FIND SOMETHING TO AGREE ON.
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I just think he is that stupid.



You guys (Liberals) cant decide which insult to stick with...either he is too stupid to do anything right, or he is an evil, brilliant genius that masterminded and plotted to get us into a war and ALLLLLLLLLLLL your dumocrat idols were soooooooooooo ignorant he was able to fool them into going along...and stop with the pasting of liberal drivel about Halliburton and war for oil crap...you are going to drown on the koolaid....I am not a Bush lover, I actually think he is far from a conservative...I am not in love with Republicans either. You are unable to seperate your ideology from your party, because your PARTY is the ideology....I am able to seperate myself from Republicans when they are NOT conservatives...Bush is not a conservative...however he has kept us from further attacks and I do agree with the reasons for going to war(please dont cut and paste more drivel about no weapons of mass destruction, enough already...you know you are wrong). I normally support only those with the same beliefs as mine, which is my right so dont start on me again lib, but with McCain I would have supported a cordless drill before supporting obama. I think you might get what you deserve after putting that idiot in office...talk about more of the same...Clinton administration once again. Thanks a lot!!


By the way, my rabbit hunting went very well this morning, how was yours the last time out??? Ever been out??




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i have gaven up on the whole so called republican and democrat system, when it comes down to it money does rule and behind closed doors both dems and repubs both are taking there handouts from there favorite lobbyist, but in one opinion is that rather you love or hate bush, he did not want 9-11 to happen and he was stuck after it happened, regaurdless of who the president would have been on that horrible day it would be bad for them, because it was a loose loose situation for bush, either he went to war after the cowards and take the heat he is taking now, but if he hadnt went to war after the cowards then everyone would be saying you should have went after them, so to me it wouldnt matter if jim bob was president he would take heat either way from one side or another, also i think that the war on terror should have been handled better stratigically and with better intellegence, but saddam got what he deserved and osama hopefully will get what is coming to him, i mean saddam was a threat to anyone he killed thousands while being a dictator, but i do think that we should have stayed in afhghan with more troops then we did, but we have since then put into place the surge and it has worked very well in iraq, and that is true the great democratic controlled congress was supposed to do so many things within so many days of being in the congress and they have accomplished nothing and there approval ratings are the worst ever, but that beign said i dont think the republicans could do much better. also i am totally against the bail out of the big banks down to the car companys, reason why is that if you or i go bad we have 2 options chapter 11 or chapter 7. why are they any different they made bad products, bad buisness decisions, and huge pensions and pay outs for poeple that screwed there own companys up. and as i watched the news today i saw unfortunatly that we are going to give the auto billions of dollars, what if this is not enough do we just give them more, what if they still end up doing chapter 11 or chapter 7 then how do we as tax payers get our money back????? i think that if they are going to dish money out to the auto industry then they should make the banks that got bailed out make at least a small percent of the loans to the auto industry instead of them geting it from the tax payer, that way the banking can make some money on interest when the loans are payed back and the auto industry can stay afloat and we the tax payers dont have to give anymore money to horible buisness. and yes i know that they are going to take the 18 billion from the 25 billion that we gave the auto industry last year, instead of getting new money, i understand that the auto is alot of jobs but thru chapter 11 they can re organize and do away with the crazy uniion contracts that have them in this mess, (and before you say it i have family up north working for gmc as we speak), and also i have noticed a few thing about the chosen one mr. obama he is already beginning to flip flop on what he ran his election on, first its about the troops and now he will not say what he is going to do with his tax rates and cuts, so as we see the puppet (mr obama) is already begginning to do a little song and dance for those of who he is loyall to, it comes down to this they tell you what they what you to hear to get them elected and when they get your vote they go and flip flop and go with whoever has the biggest lobbyist and deepest pocket, this goes for both the democrats and republicans, myself i dont think we had a decent candidate and dont think we have for many many years, in the end they are all the same and they do and go where the money is, i guess that we can only blame our selfs as the voters, as we have voted them in and again for the past quater of a century and just have took it, so i dont blame anyone but myself and the other voters, but that being said at least if we would have voted mcain in we wouldnt have to worry about the government taking our agains and other freedoms, but what i still tell my democrat grandfather we havent been attacked since 9-11 while on bush's watch and i just pray to god that after it is said and done that we can all look back and say the same thing about mr. obama's watch, but i am really nervous right not because of this transition of presidents and because of the economy, i think that we as americans are very very very vunarable to a terroist attack right nowand the near future (it wouldnt suprize me if it happened within the next 3 months to a year) , reasons why are because first we are transitioning from one president and administration to another one, second because i think that mr. obama is totally disregarding terriost threats and putting all of his attention on the economy, i sure hope that thhis does not happen but i have my doubts and i am very nervous right now, also i leave you with one more thing to think about, mr. obama said he will shut down guantanoma bay prison the day he takes office, this prison is full of terroist and insurgents that for he most part where captured while trying to kill american soldiers, mr. obama what the heck are we going to do with this insurgent/terriost, wil they kill another american soldier or even worse will they take part or organize a horrible terroist attack agains the usa or other country's that are loyall to the usa. in my eyes we are in trouble for years to come and regardless of what party we vote in as politicans we will still be in trouble and struggle for years to come,m i think they all need fired and have to go and get a real job.jmho

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There you go again Dr. Chris trying to blame old Bush for NAFTA, when Clinton signed it into law over a year after H. was out of office and without Clinton's signature it was just a piece of paper. I guess we can blame Clinton for the war since sadaam was resisting the UN weapons inspectors and had used WMD on his own people and was seeking more WMD even though W started the war.

Again the NAFTA negotiations started under Reagen and continued until Clinton, yes Clinton signed it into law and that document is and will continue to be the most damaging thing to happen to the citizens of the USA by any president of my lifetime so far.

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Rabbithoundjb wrote:There you go again Dr. Chris trying to blame old Bush for NAFTA, when Clinton signed it into law over a year after H. was out of office and without Clinton's signature it was just a piece of paper. I guess we can blame Clinton for the war since sadaam was resisting the UN weapons inspectors and had used WMD on his own people and was seeking more WMD even though W started the war.

Again the NAFTA negotiations started under Reagen and continued until Clinton, yes Clinton signed it into law and that document is and will continue to be the most damaging thing to happen to the citizens of the USA by any president of my lifetime so far.
Now now, you know I am not going to get on here and lie. #1 I don’t do that. #2 It’s too easy to research the fact, so why do it? Besides, some of you guys would crucify and humiliate me to no end. These are the facts: NAFTA was initially promoted by politicians in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George Bush SR. and Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The NAFTA Initialing Ceremony was October 1992 by these three men. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush Sr. under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement. The U.S. House of Representatives passed NAFTA on November 17, 1993, by a 234-200 vote (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor; 43 Republicans, 156 Democrats, and 1 independent against), and the U.S. Senate passed it on the last day of its 1993 session, November 20, 1993, by a 61-38 vote (34 Republicans and 27 Democrats voting in favor; 10 Republicans and 28 Democrats against and in November 1993 President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. It was wrong and stupid. And Clinton should have revoked it but did not want to start out his presidency on that note. But I have no problem saying Clinton screwed up. I don’t worship a particular Party. But to go out of your way to ignor the facts and blame all things on everybody that is not Republican is just wrong. As I said before, There is not much difference between the two parties. They may make all these “liberal” and “conservative” accusations and claims around election time, but most of them follow the money, and would jump party if they thought it was going to launch them to success, power and money.

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Dr. Chris wrote: The U.S. House of Representatives passed NAFTA on November 17, 1993, by a 234-200 vote (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor; 43 Republicans, 156 Democrats, and 1 independent against), and the U.S. Senate passed it on the last day of its 1993 session, November 20, 1993, by a 61-38 vote (34 Republicans and 27 Democrats voting in favor; 10 Republicans and 28 Democrats against and in November 1993 President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law.
2 things about this don't make sense! 1. Some of you guys blaming it all on the Democrats when clearly the majority of Republicans voted for it, and clearly the majority of the Democrats tried to stop it. 2. Why in the :censored: would Clinton sign it when the Democrats voted against it. I think lots of favors and money change hands and that they are all mostly crooked. I also think most of you on here are wasteing your time sticking up for "Republicans" or "Democrats". They don't care about you, and Dr. Chris is right in the statement, that there is really not much difference between any of them. They are all crooks out for the dollar, OUR DOLLARS! and the truth of the matter is, it is them "both parties" against us. This is a fight between two parties to get the right to get our money. We better stop focusing on a "party" and start focusing on finding somebody to get in the White House that is going to fight "for" us, not to fight to have the right "to" us {our money}.

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