what is our chances

[Tim H]

Yes!! Acorn is great and republicans hate babies and puppy's. President Obama will save the world and the democrats will help.

[Dr. Chris]

Yes!! Acorn is great and republicans hate babies and puppy's. President Obama will save the world and the democrats will help.

Acorn "the organization" is not bad, they have done a lot of good. I believe I stated that I don't like or support the corrupt individuals within Acorn or the ones that actually "founded" Acorn. I said he was a "flip flopper", "corrupt", "can't be trusted" ... but if a pastor of a church screws up do you condemn the whole church and the organization that it belongs to? As far as saving the whole world, I don't think so, but I believe you have the rolls reversed, I believe that mostly Democrats and some Republicans will save us from the mess that we have been in for the last decade and Obama will help. Yes, I really do believe that. Time will tell. But again, doing nothing was killing us.

[Dr. Chris]

DR CHRIS
THANKS' FOR THE INFORMATION ON ACORN ,,
AS FOR AS THE REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS , I THINK THAT AS OF NOW' THEY ARE A DISGRACE ,THEY USED TO HAVE MORALS ,AND CARED A LITTLE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION ,BUT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, HAS REALLY TOOK IT'S TOLL,THEY ARE AGAINST JOBS, EDUCATION,ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP AMERICA. I THINK THEY SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH PASSING ANY KIND OF LEGISLATION,THEY ARE JUST SIMPLY NOT CAPABLE OF CAREING ABOUT, ALL OF THE JOBLESS ,HOMELESS PEOPLE THEY CREATED,THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THE LAST -8-YRS OF DOING NOTHING,FOR AT LEAST -4-MORE YEARS,,
PINE MT

Pine Mt, I don't think that all Republicans are bad, just like I don't think that all Democrats are good. I think most feel this way. I have voted for some Republicans but mostly Democrats. But I do feel that Democrats relate and identify with the "common" American the most and is more dedicated to the middle class. I just look at a lot of the Republicans and listen to them talk and then I look at their lives at where they came from and how they got where they are today and I see it as they want to stand over you and look down on you, where most Democrats can relate and identify more with you and instead standing over you they would rather stand beside you. Everybody has that year, month, day, hour and minute where we pick between two roads to go down in life. I respect John McCain for everything he did in war. But when he came home he got into politics and after a few years he came to two roads. He came home to a crippled wife, he didn't have the education or experience as "others" did in politics and had no connections. He could have went with that and "worked" his way up, or he could bail out and ditch all that for a woman 18 years younger who had a rich Daddy who was personal friends with Ron Reagan, Ross Perot, and several others to gain connections to be spoon fed instead of earning it. At those cross roads he made the choice of the latter. Are there Rich Democrats? Yes! but it seems most of them started dirt poor in bad conditions and worked their way up because of open opportunities. It seems most Republicans believe that quick greedy shortcuts throughout life are the definition of “opportunities”, not dedication and hard work. That is why I believe Democrats can identify with the common American, not just the select rich few. Without the "common" American they wouldn't be rich, and after this past election, I think they found out they won't be in office either. I think the biggest difference right now is, the Republicans would rather do nothing in fear of doing something wrong and in return, we suffer. I think the Democrats recognize the suffering and are willing to try something, even if it risks failing in a few areas, in order to give help and relief to the people.

[Tim H]

But again, doing nothing was killing us.

So you bought everything President Obama was selling. The choices are either you agree with this bill or you are doing nothing. That is not reality. The Republicans in the house offered a different bill. That is not "doing nothing". They have tried to get some of the pork cut out of this bill ( President Obama said there was not any pork in it) in your mind that is doing nothing.

This bill is the LARGEST single spending bill IN THE HISTORY of the United States.

President Obama has gone to the fear tactic of saying if you don't pass this bill we will go into a recession "from which we will never recover". What is ironic is that he used "The Lost Decade" to make his point even though anyone with any economic knowledge knows that the decade was lost due to the government spending during a recession. That plummeted them into a recession that lasted a decade.

I also find it interesting that you liberal democrats complained about the republicans when they were in power and blamed them for everything. You were angry at everything. Yet now that you're in power you complain about the republicans and blame them for everything (even though you say that aren't doing anything) and you are still angry. You have the power you have the bill just the way you wanted it and yet you are still concerned about the republicans and still unhappy. I think the only thing that will please you is if the republicans come out and vote for this bill and then shoot themselves for all the evil they do and have done. Somehow though, I still think you would be angry and blame them for all the evil in the world.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

[Tim H]

Pine Mt. you keep repeating something that you know is not true.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING

In the house the republicans offered a better bill that cost half as much and created twice as many jobs. Is that doing nothing? Your bias is blinding you. If given the choice between the 2 bills and not knowing who made what bill, any thinking, rational person would say the ones who created the cheaper and more effective bill had done alot more for this country than the ones who spent twice as much for half as much.

The republicans tried to remove the pork from the current bill, the democrats left the bill as it was, who is really doing nothing?

Think about this. A $800 billion bill left the house and went to the senate. The senate democrats said they went line by line and cut everything they could, saving over $150 billion. Then the senate bill is brought out at $780 billion. Doing some simple math it appears they lied. $800 billion - $780 billion = $20 Billion. You need to understand that they used democrat math. It goes like this. Bill is $800 billion, you ADD $150 billion, then you take $150 billion away, then you start going line by line and come up with another whopping $20 billion and you have saved the country over $150 billion. You say republicans do nothing?

[Pine Mt Beagles]

[Tim H]

THE REPUBLICANS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING

Pine Mt. you keep repeating something that you know is not true.

In the house the republicans offered a better bill that cost half as much and created twice as many jobs.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY THING

You just repeated the same thing that is not true and I have put this before you several times. Read this and understand that creating a Economic Stimulus bill that is half the cost with twice the jobs does not translate to doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED

Can you tell me a page number or a reference that would back up this statement. The democrats took nothing that the republicans offered nor asked for, this was written a pushed though by the democrats, they did not compromise with the republicans on anything.

THE BILL IS BIG AND HAS SOME THING'S THAT I DONT THINK SHOULD BE IN THERE

Do you want the government deciding whether your Doctor should treat you or not, based on whether it fits the governments financial outlines? That is in this bill. Do you want socialized healthcare? Tom Dacshele wrote the healthcare provisions in this bill. I know you thought that he should have gotten his appointment because he was so great for the job. He believes that as you get older you should just accept that you will have bad health and under his ideal social healthcare plan, the older you get the less the government would spent on your healthcare. In other words, if your old, based on the governments criteria and you get a terminal disease then just have the decency to go die and not cost the socialist government any money.

This is just one of the things in this bill that many people don't like. You want this passed. You praise the people who do this and then you blame Republicans for all the bad in the world, even when they are (in your opinion) not doing ANYTHING simply because they won't agree to vote this trash into law. Your position is exactly what your party is telling you it should be, if we don't agree with you then we are doing nothing because we hate the middle class.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY THING,EXCEPT CUTTING EDUCATION FUNDING' EVEN MORE

Another time where you just repeat what your party tells you to even though you know it is not true. EDUCATION HAS NEVER BEEN CUT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY !!!!!!!!

This bill was going to DOUBLE THE FUNDING OF EDUCATION!!!!

The republicans didn't think that needed to be in a Economic Stimulus bill.

If you keep accepting your party lines and not thinking for yourself, you are destine to be in the dark until it's too late. I don't like very much of what the republicans represent anymore because most of them are liberals in disguise. I am a conservative and the republican party no longer represents that, although they are making the right decision by not voting for this bill. It shouldn't be too long before they cave and start agreeing with the liberal agenda and then the democrats will brag about how they reached across the isle to get bipartisanship. While we plunge headlong into economic disaster and socialism will be presented as the one thing that will save us.

I will ask this again. Why are liberals so concerned about the republicans? Why are you so angry? Your bill passed and you have full power, yet still the hostility towards anyone who doesn't agree with you while your getting what you want. Do you just have to have everyone agree with you? Somehow I still think the anger would be there.

[Dr. Chris]

You just repeated the same thing that is not true and I have put this before you several times. Read this and understand that creating a Economic Stimulus bill that is half the cost with twice the jobs does not translate to doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding? Because you desire to "correct" him, he supposed to come to your way of thinking?

He repeats it because what you are saying is not true! They did do nothing, for 8 long years! There is no bill at half the cost with twice the jobs! That is not true. And I hope the Republicans keep preaching this false message, because they are going to talk themselves right out of any chance of the Whitehouse for years to come. Because when this is successful the people of America is going to reflect back and remember who was for it and who was against it and all the lies, garbage and betrayal that has come from the Republican Party.

“Remove the pork”, “Joe Six Pack”, “We are mavericks” lol That’s all we heard through the whole campaign, was little “ignorant” catchy slangs and phrases that mean absolutely nothing. And as we see by the results of the campaign, it did no good to use those quotes then and it does no good to use them know.

The Republicans desire for this bill to fail. They don’t want to make any changes to assist the credit that Obama will be getting when it is a success. I can see where now that they realize that this is going to work and they know they better get on the bandwagon so they can claim some of the credit during the next election. But most of them are too high strung and close minded to any kind of reasoning and they just want to talk BS. America wants action & results, not words. Bush had 6 years where he could have gotten anything passed and failed to do it. They sat by, tried nothing and got nothing done but create war, debt, and a world outside the US that dislikes and disrespects America because we had such of an incompetent, weak and ignorant president, the absolute worst ever.

“Democratic math?” listen, with the Republicans in charge, the color “Red” comes to mind. And “Red” will be Bush’s legacy. Our economy was brought and kept in the “Red” and many innocent lives are gone and their blood was shed for what? A war based on lies that we should not have been in. Bush + Presidency = RED

[Tim H]

Dr. Chris, in the house the republican presented a bill that the democrats would not allow to come to the floor. You are just repeating the same LIE!!!

[beaglechase]

Tim H what was in the bill you are so fond of? You talk that it was so good of a bill then don't you think it was at least discussed, in President Obamas cabinet? Why would they not like it? Was it the same old rehtoric the republican tries to force down the citizens of America's throat? Even after he told you, we are not considering any of the old failed policies that has got this country in the fix it is in? What will it take to open your eyes?