Birthers-The story that won't die

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Birthers-The story that won't die

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The key defense attorney for an Army officer being put on trial for refusing orders he views as suspect because of the possibility Barack Obama is not eligible to be commander-in-chief is demanding documentation from the president.

On the G. Gordon Liddy radio show today, Paul Rolf Jensen said the request for "discovery" in the Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin case – the access by the defense to documentation in the government's possession that could help its case – is being submitted.



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"We are today officially requesting that discovery," Jensen said. "If the government refuses to give it to us, then we will, a week from today, file a motion to compel discovery.

" "I can't think of a single reason why the judge would take the government's position," he said.




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The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

A number of challenges and lawsuits have been based on the constitutional requirement, some alleging Obama does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims. Others say he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen of the U.S. and the United Kingdom when he was born, and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.

Complicating the issue is the fact that besides Obama's actual birth documentation, he has concealed documentation including his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.



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The issue of discovery in such a dispute is critical. The multitude of civil cases that have been brought over the Obama eligibility dispute all have failed to reach that process because of federal judges who have ruled on issues generally involving "standing." The judges have concluded that damages from an ineligible president suffered by the plaintiffs would not be more for them than any other member of the public, so there is not a specific damage or danger.

Jensen has explained that the Lakin case is different, since his client is being processed on criminal charges over the issue – a status that puts him in imminent danger of specific and personal "damages."


The Kenyan in Chief puts the whole country in danger. :roll:



How on Earth does this story still have legs? Why are judges dismissing the case on grounds other than, "Here is the document, now STFU?"

Why won't Obama show his records?

Simple questions that demand simple answers.

Unless simple answers are damning is some way.

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THIS STORY HAS NO LEG'S AND HAS BEEN PROVED OVER AND OVER-IT WAS STARTED BY- IDIOT'S-WHO CANNOT COMPREHEND IT WAS A LIE--JUST LIKE THE WEAPON'S OF MASS DESTRUCTION-THEY THINK THE MORE YOU SAY IT MAKES IT TRUE.REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN 1 0 1--

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Id it has no legs then it should go up against your DEMOCRAT DEATH PANEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:

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Something to Think about:
SHEPPARD SMITH, FOX NEWS!


"If you check President Obama's last trip over-seas, his wife left just after their visit to France. She has yet to accompany him to any Arab country. Think about it. Why is Michelle returning to the states when 'official' trips to foreign countries generally include the First Lady."

Here's one thought on the matter.

While in a Blockbuster renting videos I came across a video called "Obama". There were two men standing next to me and we talked about President Obama. These guys were Arabs, so I asked them why they thought Michele Obama headed home following the President's recent visit to France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband.

They told me she could not go to Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Iraq . I said "Why not,(?) Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Dubai ." They said that Obama is a Muslim and therefore he is not allowed to bring his wife into countries that adhere to Sharia Law.

Two points of interest here: 1) I thought it interesting that two American Arabs at Blockbuster believe that our President is a Muslim, 2) who follows a strict Islamic creed. They also said that's the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia. It was a signal to the Muslim world, acknowledging his religion.

For further consideration, here is a response from Dr. Jim Murk, a Middle Eastern Scholar and expert on Islam. This is his explanation of what the Arab American's were saying.

"An orthodox Muslim man would never take his wife on a politically oriented trip to any nation which practices Sharia law, particularly Saudi Arabia where the Wahhabi sect is dominant. This is true and it is why Obama left Michelle in Europe. She will stay home when he visits Arab countries. He knows Muslim protocol; this includes, bowing to the Saudi King.

Obama is regarded as a Muslim in the Arab world, because he was born to a Muslim father; he acknowledged his Muslim faith with George Stephanopoulus.

Note that he downplays his involvement with Christianity, by not publicly joining a Christian church in D.C. and occasionally attending the chapel for services at Camp David.

He also played down the fact that America is a Christian country and said, unbelievably, that it was one of the largest Muslim nations in the world, which is nonsense.

He has publicly taken the side of the Palestinians in the conflict with Israel and he ignored the National Day of Prayer, something no other President has ever done. He is bad news! He conceals his true faith to the detriment of the American people." --- Jim Murk, Doctor of Philosophy in Middle Eastern Culture & Religion.

ACTIONS speak louder than words.

Another interesting item regarding Sharia Law..

Why has Barack Hussein Obama insisted that the U.S. Attorney General hold the trials of the 911 Muslim Terrorists in Civilian Courts as Common Criminals, instead of as Terrorists, who attacked the United States of America?

If the Muslim Terrorists are tried in Military Tribunals, convicted and sentenced to death, by LAW, Barack Hussein Obama, as President of the United States, would be required to sign their Death Warrants.

He would not be required to sign the death warrants if they are sentenced to death by a Civilian Court.

Recently, Muslim Jihadist, Army Major Hassan slaughtered non-Muslim, soldiers at Ft. Hood, Texas rather than go to Afghanistan and be a part of anything that could lead to the deaths of fellow Muslims. He stated that Muslims 'could not and should not kill fellow Muslims.'

Is the motive for Barack Obama's insistence on civilian trials, to make sure he doesn't have to sign the death warrants for the Muslim Terrorists? Why would he, as President of the United States, not sign the death warrants for Muslim Terrorists who attacked the United States and murdered over 3,000 U. S. Citizens on 9/11? Could it be that he is FORBIDDEN by his RELIGION to authorize the execution of Muslims?

Think about that! Open your eyes, ears and mind to who the President is, how he behaves and what he is doing.


Pine Mt Beagles wrote:THIS STORY HAS NO LEG'S AND HAS BEEN PROVED OVER AND OVER-IT WAS STARTED BY- IDIOT'S-WHO CANNOT COMPREHEND IT WAS A LIE--JUST LIKE THE WEAPON'S OF MASS DESTRUCTION-THEY THINK THE MORE YOU SAY IT MAKES IT TRUE.REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN 1 0 1--
And they walk among us.

Rufus, would you please write a paragraph about your knowledge or Obama prior to his running for President?

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WOULD YOU PLEASE LOOK UP THE WORD -TRUTH-AND BY THE WAY IT IS NOT IN THE REPUBLICAN DICTIONARY.

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Rufus is just Stirring the pot all the time any more he KNOWS NOTHING HE SAYS HAS LEGS and it Dont mean Squat he has absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING of the CONSTITUTION OR FOR WHAT IT STANDS..
I Am kinda Starting to think he may be a MUSLIM in Cognito
he SUPPORTS a MAN WHO ILLEGALLY TOOK over the OFFICE of the PRESIDENCY (not an American Citizen)
He Does NOT SUPPORT ANY MAINSTREAM Religious Doctrine that is nationally recognized ( Supports the mosque)
has NO Support of Anything that is Recognized as a COMMON Political belief
Does not Support our Constitutional Right to Question Government
And TOTALLY BELIEVES EVERYTHING the radical TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORT...
So WHO is the True terrorist anti government Supporter on here???????
he DEFENDS ALL THAT HIS LEADER tells him to.
Believes that NOBODY SHOULD OWN anything
We Should ALL give Everything we have to the Democratic Socialist party
NOBODY has a right to OWN anything except what is Given to them..
We SHOULD ALL Support OBAMA NO MATTER WHAT and if WE Dont then we need to be Silenced!!!!
So WHO on here is the TRUE SOCIALIST ELITE besides his HERO Obama....
just poor Ol Rufus......Drank WAY to much of the koolaid, but Knows Obama can fix it......
So Dont let him get under your skin guys, he LIKE his MAN is DELUSIONAL.
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You are sooooooooooooooooo right TC, the only rational american that could possibly look at this adminstation with a gleem in the eye would be Jimmy Carter. He has been pushed up off the bottom rung of the presidential ladder by this this community orginizer, enough said!!!!!

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WELL HE IS MORE AMERICAN THAN YOU GUY'S SEEM TO ,AT LEAST HE KNOW'S THE CONSTITUTION,,,,,,AND THIS SICK ARGUEMENT THAT HE IS NOT AMERICAN MAKE'S YU LOOK FOOLISH,YOU KNOW THAT THE REPUBLICAN'S AND THE CLINTON'S INVESTIGATED HIM ,EXTREMELY HARD -BUT YOU STILL TRY TO SAY, THAT -FIRST LINE IN THE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN BOO,K SAY SOMETHING ENOUGH AND SOME IDIOT WILL BELIEVE IT.DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE TRUTH.
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-ONE THNG THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE, IS EXPOSE THE REPUBLICAN'S, FOR WHAT THEY AE ANTI-AMERICAN HIPPOCRIT'S-WHO ONLY WANT'S AMERICA TO FAIL.IF THERE IS A REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE,IT WOULD BE A SHOCK .
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-AND HOW MANY PART'S OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE THERE-NOW -TEA BAGGER'S -PALIN WORSHIPER'S-BECK FOLLOWER'S-BIRTHER'S-THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUNCH-THENTHER'S-THEY DON'T EVEN BELIEVE EACH OTHER.HOW CAN AMERICA BELIEVE THEM.

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NO PMB what he has exposed is that as bad as the republicans are, the democrats are much worse. Not to mention he has exposed how big of a mistake electing him was.

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Rufus, Obama was supposedly President of the Harvard Law Review. For some reason there is no record of him reviewing anything while he held that position. Since you seem to be the authority on what is constitutional, did you help him with his reviews. Maybe you still have some of those records.

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Pinenut has sobered up enough again to spew his crap and ingorance and all to see. Pinenut you say your hero obumer knows the constitution, then why in the world would he pass the health care bill thats unconsitutional if he knows the constitution. Before you state something pinenut you need to know the answer. Just go back to la-la land you are a joke just like your hero.

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by bluemouse on Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:09 am

Pinenut has sobered up enough again to spew his crap and ingorance and all to see. Pinenut you say your hero obumer knows the constitution, then why in the world would he pass the health care bill thats unconsitutional if he knows the constitution. Before you state something pinenut you need to know the answer. Just go back to la-la land you are a joke just like your hero.
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-JUST STAY ON YOUR MEDICATION,AND I HAVE NEVER SAID PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS MY HERO,YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION ,AND I DO KNOW THE ANSWER THAT IS WHY YOU GET SO BENT,YOU CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH.---I'AM SURPRISED YOUR MOM, LET YOU BACK ON THE P C. -IF YOU DON'T STOP TALKING FOOLISH SHE WILL GROUND YOU AGAIN.

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Pinenut to understand the constitution you would need at least a 6th grade education or better, since your skills reflect your not there try again. Oh Mom told me not to be to hard on a drunken hillybilly sipping obumer kool-aid. What color did you get this month grape or cherry.

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TO START-I DON'T DRINK,
-AND MY EDUCATION IS NO CONCERN OF YOUR'S,I MADE OUT JUST FINE,THE ONLY TIME MY HAND IS OUT IS TO GIVE SOME ONE HELP.HOW MANY OF YOU CAN SAY THE SAME.

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:THE ONLY TIME MY HAND IS OUT IS TO GIVE SOME ONE HELP.
Just stop trying to do it with other peoples money. If they want to help it's not up to your party to decide they HAVE to do it through them. By the way, I believe most Americans willing give more than enough on their own so you are nothing special for giving, just more arrogant for implying that others don't give like you do.
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