Obamacare in Force-Locall

[Newt]

By DON DARE
6 On Your Side Consumer Investigator

KNOXVILLE (WATE) - An East Tennessee woman with cancer is having trouble after signing up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

Initially, she believed she'd be able to stay with her doctor, but that turned out not to be the case.

Retired dairy worker Vernon Stinnett put some extra logs on the fire last week as his wife Patty and their two grandchildren snuggled to keep warm.

Patty has colon cancer. For weeks, Vernon tried to sign her up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

It wasn't until last month that he successfully got her enrolled and bought her a plan through the marketplace site.

Since her cancer was diagnosed nearly three years ago, Patty had minimum insurance with CoverTN, designed for the state's working uninsured.

When Vernon was finally able to find insurance under Obamacare, their anxiety ended, but only briefly.

The couple figured everything was okay when a letter arrived from Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Patty's new provider.

"Your coverage starts on 1/1/2014," said Patty as she read the letter. It was written before Christmas.

For nearly three years, Patty has been receiving chemotherapy at Covenant Health's Ft. Loudoun Medical Center near their home in West Knox County.

However, Patty's first visit was canceled on January 3 under the new insurance plan.

"They called us Friday and told her not to come in Monday because we had no insurance. It just blew me away. It's so frustrating. She doesn't need to be dealing with this stress," said Vernon.

They eventually discovered what went wrong. Patty must make a monthly payment of $457. Vernon says he mailed the money the day after Christmas.

"They said until the payment is deposited, she really does not have insurance," said Vernon.

It turned out that the payment had not been deposited before the new year, so Patty missed her therapy on January 3. Since then, however, the deposit has gone through.

There is yet another snag.

"Your health care plan number is G08E," read Patty. "My doctor will not accept this insurance because it is 'E.'

Since they chose plan "E," Patty will no longer be able to visit her doctors with Covenant Health. She'll have to travel 25 miles east to UT Medical Center and the cancer unit there.

"Only place where we can use it is at UT Hospital. It is no offense to them. We thought we could pick or choose, or stay with who she has," said Vernon.

So what happened? Why does she have to change doctors and hospital?

Blue Cross/Blue Shield told 6 On Your Side there are three primary blue networks, but one is exclusive to people signed up under the Affordable Care Act.

Network P is the largest with the highest premium and widest access to doctors and hospitals.

Blue Network S has average premiums and access to a select list of doctors and hospitals.

Network E is only sold on the health insurance marketplace. It provides the lowest premiums and is limited to specific doctors and hospitals.

"I didn't know to ask these questions about E, S and P in the beginning," said Vernon. "No one knew or could tell me anything."

They know the difference now and wanted to tell their story so others would be aware. Patty's first visit to her new cancer center is Thursday, January 16.

"I'm going to go to UT. Either that or I sit here and die. Simple as that," said Patty.

Blue Cross/Blue Shield told Patty and Vernon that if they had contacted them first, Plan E would have been explained.

But Vernon had bought the plan through the health care site and did not go through a broker.

Patty does have insurance, though, and for that she is grateful.

[bluegrass]

Patty does have insurance, though, and for that she is grateful.

That statement is absolutely APPALLING.

To think AMERICANS have been reduced to lapping up the crumbs from the Kenyans plate and are GRATEFUL to get them.


This isn't the Land of the Free anymore...and it dam.n sure isn't the Home of the Brave if we continue to allow things like this to go on.

Tolerance has gotten us to this point. Reduced the general population who is CONTENT with INFERIORITY. Content with mediocrity. Content with sub par. Content with almost and good enough. Maybe according to Obama she should just go home and take a pill...

Thanks LIBTARDS nationwide...its all because of YOU that the rest of America will have to suffer.

[mowhawk madman]

But just think of all the $$$$$$ that will be saved in social security payments. Youthonasia is now in effect!!!!!

[Pine Mt Beagles]

But just think of all the $$$$$$ that will be saved in social security payments.



Youthonasia is now in effect!!!!!

BADLY NEEDED FOR TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS , YOU REPUBLICANS, KILLED OVER 100,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN ORAQ,,AND ARE TRYING TO DOUBLE THAT NUMBER IN AMERICA ,,BY,,STARVING THE POOR,SICK AND ELDERLY,,AND ,DENYING HEALTH CARE TO MILLIONS,,RIGHT NOW -1- AMERICAN VETERAN KILLS THEM SELVES EVERY -26-HOURS IN THIS COUNTRY,REPUBLICANS HAVE KILLED EVERY VETERANS BILL ,,,

BUT THEN REPUBLICANS ARE AT WAR WITH.

WOMEN
THE POOR,SICK AND ELDERLY.
CHILDREN BORN WITN BIRTH DEFECTS,,
AMERICA'S WORKERS.
AMERICA'S VOTERS,
LOW INCOME WORKERS.
MINORITIES
THE MIDDLE CLASS
VETERANS
EVERY ONE OF YOU FIT SOMEWHERE IN THIS GROUP..AND VOTE AGAINST YOUR SELF, YOU FAMILY AND YOUR COUNTRY.

BUT YOU SUPPORT REPUBLICANS IN THEIR AGENDA OF HELPING THESE.

EVERY THING EXCEPT BIG BUSINESS,,THAT COST AMERICA TRILLIONS EACH YEAR.
BIG OIL ,SUBSIDES
SUBSIDES FOR BIG DRUG COMPANIES
SUBSIDES FOR COMPANIES THAT START BUSINESS OVER SEAS.

[bluemouse]

And you vote for a check clown, don't care who you steal from as long as you get yours.

[Pine Lakes]

But just think of all the $$$$$$ that will be saved in social security payments.



Youthonasia is now in effect!!!!!

BADLY NEEDED FOR TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS , YOU REPUBLICANS, KILLED OVER 100,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN ORAQ,,AND ARE TRYING TO DOUBLE THAT NUMBER IN AMERICA ,,BY,,STARVING THE POOR,SICK AND ELDERLY,,AND ,DENYING HEALTH CARE TO MILLIONS,,RIGHT NOW -1- AMERICAN VETERAN KILLS THEM SELVES EVERY -26-HOURS IN THIS COUNTRY,REPUBLICANS HAVE KILLED EVERY VETERANS BILL ,,,

BUT THEN REPUBLICANS ARE AT WAR WITH.

WOMEN
THE POOR,SICK AND ELDERLY.
CHILDREN BORN WITN BIRTH DEFECTS,,
AMERICA'S WORKERS.
AMERICA'S VOTERS,
LOW INCOME WORKERS.
MINORITIES
THE MIDDLE CLASS
VETERANS
EVERY ONE OF YOU FIT SOMEWHERE IN THIS GROUP..AND VOTE AGAINST YOUR SELF, YOU FAMILY AND YOUR COUNTRY.

BUT YOU SUPPORT REPUBLICANS IN THEIR AGENDA OF HELPING THESE.

EVERY THING EXCEPT BIG BUSINESS,,THAT COST AMERICA TRILLIONS EACH YEAR.
BIG OIL ,SUBSIDES
SUBSIDES FOR BIG DRUG COMPANIES
SUBSIDES FOR COMPANIES THAT START BUSINESS OVER SEAS.

You're darn right we fit into one of those catagories and hopefully those that were fooled by idiots like you that sell the false pretense of big government is better will see the light. You and every other marxist turd are the ones voting against America, and you always have. Democrats founded slavery and thankfully the Republicans ended it. Democrats restricted women's rights. Fortunately the abolishinists/Republicans fought against such anarchy and won. Democrats keep the poor in a lifestyle of dependency for voting purposes through lies and misleadings. People like you scavange from those of us that provide, and then ridicule us for our ideology. You are a POS Rufus and you should be ashamed of yourself, but instead you blame Republicans. Have a wonderful day commie and I hope you get what you deserve, and that's nothing.

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB you are the poster boy for the ole saying you just can't fix stupid, You are the most dependent tax payer abusing, poor abusing, old abusing, young abusing democrat troll possible. You take from all those less fortunate people you use as talking points and have for decades. You have zero compassion just a desire to to ride freely off of the successful that you are soooooo jealous of. I have read between the lines of your posts for years now and so has most that have visited this forum, You are something your lieing god lied about, transparent.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Mr Chip

You and the other brain washed clowns here,,,are ,,,the very reason this Country is in this Shape you Republican,,Hippocrit's Talk About the Size of Government and do Every thing in your power to make Government Grow ,,From Taxes,to Exploding The Number of Government Jobs,,to putting Government in your bed room,,,No Worse Hippocrit than A Party Line Republican.

Blue Mouse ,If you Give Back all the Money you stole Every year cheating on your Income Tax ,,you still would not have A Right to talk about anyone, (( AS LONG AS YOU GET YOURS ,,DO YOU USE YOUR GAS RECIPTS WHEN YOU GO HUNTING AS AN EXPENSE )) since,you and every other TEA PARTY REPUBLICAN, here Like Rabbithound Have Family who live off Social Security,Food Stamps Etc.,,,,But,,Republicans believe they are the SUPER RACE THEY CAN IGNORE EVERY LAW,EVERY MORAL ,EVERY RULE,,REPUBLICANS BELIEVE ,LAWS,RULES,AND MORALS ARE FOR OTHERS, AND DO NOT APPLY TO THEM.,,,IF THEY GET SOMETHING THEY DESERVE BUT,,NO ONE ELSE DOES,,,REMEMBER,,,47%. OF AMERICANS ARE LAZY SHIFTLESS BUMS WHO THINK THE GOVERNMENT OWES THEM,,

DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO FITS IN THAT NUMBER.

[bluemouse]

Pinemooch do not make up statements your stupid a$$ can not back up clown. Just because you are a idiot and a cheat the system does not mean other act like you clown I would be real careful about how you stupidity and anger make you look like a fool.

[Pine Lakes]

Mr Chip

You and the other brain washed clowns here,,,are ,,,the very reason this Country is in this Shape you Republican,,Hippocrit's Talk About the Size of Government and do Every thing in your power to make Government Grow ,,From Taxes,to Exploding The Number of Government Jobs,,to putting Government in your bed room,,,No Worse Hippocrit than A Party Line Republican.

Blue Mouse ,If you Give Back all the Money you stole Every year cheating on your Income Tax ,,you still would not have A Right to talk about anyone, (( AS LONG AS YOU GET YOURS ,,DO YOU USE YOUR GAS RECIPTS WHEN YOU GO HUNTING AS AN EXPENSE )) since,you and every other TEA PARTY REPUBLICAN, here Like Rabbithound Have Family who live off Social Security,Food Stamps Etc.,,,,But,,Republicans believe they are the SUPER RACE THEY CAN IGNORE EVERY LAW,EVERY MORAL ,EVERY RULE,,REPUBLICANS BELIEVE ,LAWS,RULES,AND MORALS ARE FOR OTHERS, AND DO NOT APPLY TO THEM.,,,IF THEY GET SOMETHING THEY DESERVE BUT,,NO ONE ELSE DOES,,,REMEMBER,,,47%. OF AMERICANS ARE LAZY SHIFTLESS BUMS WHO THINK THE GOVERNMENT OWES THEM,,

DO YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO FITS IN THAT NUMBER.

You got it all backwards Rufie. You are the one pushing the socialist/communist agenda, all we want is to live according to the Constitution. You're the "elitist" that thinks your style of government should control every aspect of our lives. You don't even know what the Tea Party represents. All you can do is spew misinformation from the liberals and their media outlets. You are incapable of self thought.

I feel every mental and physically healthy person has the opportunity to be a productive member of society. Lord knows noone pulled the golden spoon out of my mouth. If you work for it then you deserve it. Notice I didn't reference any social class or insight warfare in such, as I know that is your mainstay and talking point for every political conversation. Like it or not, if things are to get better there needs to be some responsibility taken. We need to be accountable for our own actions, or lack thereof, and once again become a country of moral descency guided by Christian belief. Not elitist or radicals, but more like our forfathers that wrote the laws of our country. These words, before they were amended, granted freedom to all and made us the keepers of its sanctity. You are the opposite of such belief, and like I told you before, the Tea Party doesn't exist inspite of you, it exists because of you and all the other liberals that are overrunning this country. You are a miniature Stalin. A communist with a big mouth and a small brain.

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB you have NO idea about my family, you just think because you are and have been dependent for decades and raised your family off of the hard working tax payers in this nation that everyone else must be as dependent as you are. Your main problem is you can't think beyond your TV remote and whatever your leftist idols tell you is gospel. You would have us believe the economy is getting better yet you argue the extend cronic unemployment for the 12th time under your pitiful leader, LMAO!!!!!!!

[Pine Mt Beagles]

I seriously doubt,you natural born Tea Party Republicans,,could have an honest conversation about anything.

I would like to ask, some of you ,A Serious Question ,,,

Bluegrass
Chip
Bluemouse
Newt
Rabbithoundjb

Does any of You or,,some one in your Family ,Get Social Security ,or,any other,type of Entitlement ,Just A Simple Question I don't mean any Disrespect in any way .

I will say,,up front, I get Social Security,

From what you guy's have posted over the last 8 or 9 Years,, I really don't expect an Honest Answer,,your,, Hippocracy,,,Arrogance ,,and Just Plain ,,,VANITY,,prevents you guy's ,from admitting ,you are Normal Middle and Low income People,,That are not Perfect and You ,,or,,,Someone in Your Family ,,has needed help ,from time to Time.There is nothing wrong with that,every one has problems ,,, But ,,Being, to ,,Vain ,,to admit that ,and throw Rocks at every one Else,, is A problem in and of it's self.

[Rabbithoundjb]

See there you go again, I have said many times I have no problems with assistance. I have a problem with assistance becoming a permanent way of life. Abusing the hard working tax payers of this nation while enabling themselves to have no accountability, responsibility for themselves. Placing those burdens of their abuses on people who have there own families to take care of. Just for the record there are worthless pieces of $hit in every family if you look deep enough. I make no excuses for any that may be in mine.

[Pine Lakes]

I seriously doubt,you natural born Tea Party Republicans,,could have an honest conversation about anything.

I would like to ask, some of you ,A Serious Question ,,,

Bluegrass
Chip
Bluemouse
Newt
Rabbithoundjb

Does any of You or,,some one in your Family ,Get Social Security ,or,any other,type of Entitlement ,Just A Simple Question I don't mean any Disrespect in any way .

I will say,,up front, I get Social Security,

From what you guy's have posted over the last 8 or 9 Years,, I really don't expect an Honest Answer,,your,, Hippocracy,,,Arrogance ,,and Just Plain ,,,VANITY,,prevents you guy's ,from admitting ,you are Normal Middle and Low income People,,That are not Perfect and You ,,or,,,Someone in Your Family ,,has needed help ,from time to Time.There is nothing wrong with that,every one has problems ,,, But ,,Being, to ,,Vain ,,to admit that ,and throw Rocks at every one Else,, is A problem in and of it's self.

I have no family members on disability or any kind of welfare. Dad retired from Ford and The Operating Engineers, not sure if he collects social security. Mom was a teacher in an adult facility for criminal offenders. Like most, I struggled in my younger years but was never in debt to where I was in trouble. If I couldn't afford it, I didn't get it. I have been laid off and dealt with cut backs, but I've always found work. There were times that I wasn't doing what I wanted to do or making the amount of money that I desired, but I still worked those jobs until something better was available. Like I said before, I'm not any better than the next man, but in my struggles I don't look to take away from others to pull me out of the gutter. I'll earn my way and I'll help others when I can. I don't need a socialist government to take my money and disperse any way they see fit. That's exactly how we end up in the situation we are currently in, why can't you see this? The government has never been as efficient or helpful as the private sector, and never will be.

Not sure what a "natural born Tea Party republican" is. My family was once hard core party line democrats. As time has passed and the democratic party platform has filled with liberals, socialist, fascists, and communists, we like most independent thinkers, have realized the error of our ways. You cannot hold Christian values and vote for a modern democrat. It is the epitome of an oxymoron. One cannot vote for a democrat and hold any value for the Constitution of the United States. Once again it's an oxymoron and you sound more and more like a communist with each post.

[Newt]

The economy is booming just ask the people.

54% growth in the food stamp rolls since '09. That makes PM very happy so why is he constantly harping about Republicans? He should be euphoric that Obama has taken care of all problems caused by Bush.
Obama said, Food stamps stimulate the economy, so put more folks on the rolls, stimulate the economy, that means more profit?
After all, 92,000,000 people in America are not working. That's the highest number ever.

I think the Koch Brothers are behind it all, I hear they own the machines that generate "Food Stamps".