Why is the arha not allowing mcbc to cancel hunts?
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Why is the arha not allowing mcbc to cancel hunts?
Jesse posted the MCBC hunts cancelled the same day that Joyce posted the LP trial at SIBC being cancelled but yet Jesse told me that approx. 3 weeks after his post Joyce contacted him saying that he did not notify her soon enough to get it changed in the rabbit hunter so it would have to be held.....well guess what ....the hunt she cancelled did not show being cancelled in the Dec. rabbit hunter either so why is it that MCBC can not really cancel? If you do not want anyone to questions your actions cancel this post also.
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WrongsideRandy
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lol......This sounds familiar. Thats the same thing they tried doing with WIBC in Linton when I was President.....I just didnt show up at the hunt and took my phone off the hook. We had an honest reason for needing to cancel since the conservation club was shut down by the health department......and thats also why the Greene County Club in Linton holds its trials in a TENT.... 
Jesse has called them everything in the book and they dont want him to cancel a hunt......not hard to figure this out. I just told them to go have intercourse with themselves and got life
No offense meant but they are trying to use Jesse as a pawn............like they tried doing with Matt last year. They think they have a young guy who will take whatever they dish out and not stand up for himself in person....next thing you know is you know who will have Jesse handling his dogs at the cancelled MCBC hunt oh Lord......I shouldnt have said that, lol. Just dont let it upset you guys at one another.....thats the carnage they feed off of.
You all take care,
Randy
Jesse has called them everything in the book and they dont want him to cancel a hunt......not hard to figure this out. I just told them to go have intercourse with themselves and got life
No offense meant but they are trying to use Jesse as a pawn............like they tried doing with Matt last year. They think they have a young guy who will take whatever they dish out and not stand up for himself in person....next thing you know is you know who will have Jesse handling his dogs at the cancelled MCBC hunt
oh Lord......I shouldnt have said that, lol. Just dont let it upset you guys at one another.....thats the carnage they feed off of. You all take care,
Randy
I agree. I think he may be viewed by "some" as an impressionable young man, but let me just say in his defense that he does have guts and he will stand up for what is right. I have no doubt that he will stand with his friends.WrongsideRandy wrote:l
No offense meant but they are trying to use Jesse as a pawn...........
Take care Randy and I hope we can get together at least once this year and blast some bunnies.
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WrongsideRandy
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I agree with you Brian. In my opinion, they picked the wrong guy if they think they can manipulate him around. I get a feeling Jesse could care less what he says to them and what they think of him. I hope to see you all soon.FLABSLAB wrote:I agree. I think he may be viewed by "some" as an impressionable young man, but let me just say in his defense that he does have guts and he will stand up for what is right. I have no doubt that he will stand with his friends.WrongsideRandy wrote:l
No offense meant but they are trying to use Jesse as a pawn...........
Take care Randy and I hope we can get together at least once this year and blast some bunnies.
I got a couple of roofs left to do if I can get done before the snow starts messing me up.............but after that its nothing but runnin and gunnin, maybe we can get together for some XMas bunny hunts, lol
Take care my friends,
Randy
PAUL:
GIVE IT A REST! KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH. SIBC WAS NOT GRANTED A CHARTER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT MORE THAN 25 MILES FROM ERIE CANAL OR THREE RIVERS. SO THEREFORE THEIR HUNT WAS CANCELLED. MCBC WANTED TO CANCEL BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD AT THE ARHA.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
JOYCE
This was Joyce's response and mine is
Why would you post these hunts on the ARHA board if you did not give them them a charter. Fact both clubs show having hunts in Dec in the Rabbit Hunter ...You told Jesse the reason he could not cancel was you could not get the info to the Rabbit Hunter in time.
GIVE IT A REST! KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH. SIBC WAS NOT GRANTED A CHARTER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT MORE THAN 25 MILES FROM ERIE CANAL OR THREE RIVERS. SO THEREFORE THEIR HUNT WAS CANCELLED. MCBC WANTED TO CANCEL BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD AT THE ARHA.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
JOYCE
This was Joyce's response and mine is
Why would you post these hunts on the ARHA board if you did not give them them a charter. Fact both clubs show having hunts in Dec in the Rabbit Hunter ...You told Jesse the reason he could not cancel was you could not get the info to the Rabbit Hunter in time.
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checkmate kennels
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Guys this mark harmon i was the one who was going to start the sibc club here in soutern in. because neither of the other two clubs were having any club hunts for the local trailers.so a few of us got together and got this club going to hold both lp and pp trails we knew we where not 25 miles apart but there are 8 or 9 clubs in ky. that are that way so we figured what the heck at the time that it was posted in the magazine all was well but somebody raised a stink and got scared we were going to get big and take over the big 5 hunts so we where never granted a charter which i might add we would have never wanted anything but small club hunts. If any body should mad it should be me because for two months i was told everything was ok so i invested a lot of money into supplies and collars and everything else it takes to get a club off the ground and now it all is setting in my garage collecting dust. why it is still in the magazine is beyond me i found out a week after the little world that we were not getting our charter i guess maybe it takes time after you already have it ready to go to print.
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WrongsideRandy
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Hey Mark......Sorry you lost your time and money, but they are good at doing that. I hope you learned not to trust them devils again 
.....next thing you know they will be asking you to send them back all that stuff you bought LMAO!
That 25 mile rule is a joke anyway! They started that rule after Dale and myself requested to move WIBC closer to our homes(since Dale and I were driving 2 1/2 hours to a club we had) and grand daddy cried about it because we were getting to close to Danville........so they made another rule and said clubs had to be 30-45 miles apart. But then Tommy Boy was involved in starting a club in Michigan that was 26 miles from where Thumb Area was........so then they changed the rule again to 25 miles! Thats why they got that goofy rule!! Maybe you should petition them to make another new rule
Guess they dont think people are smart enough to see thru the smoke screens.
Best to you,
Randy
PS. You could always bring them collars, clubhouse, supplies and club members to UKC and play
.....next thing you know they will be asking you to send them back all that stuff you bought LMAO!That 25 mile rule is a joke anyway! They started that rule after Dale and myself requested to move WIBC closer to our homes(since Dale and I were driving 2 1/2 hours to a club we had) and grand daddy cried about it because we were getting to close to Danville........so they made another rule and said clubs had to be 30-45 miles apart. But then Tommy Boy was involved in starting a club in Michigan that was 26 miles from where Thumb Area was........so then they changed the rule again to 25 miles! Thats why they got that goofy rule!! Maybe you should petition them to make another new rule
Guess they dont think people are smart enough to see thru the smoke screens.
Best to you,
Randy
PS. You could always bring them collars, clubhouse, supplies and club members to UKC and play
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checkmate kennels
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WrongsideRandy
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Jesse Duncan
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First let me say that I'm not mad at anyone. I just fell like I need to get on here and say my peace on this topic. I just feel like I need to clear some things up.
QUOTE: Jesse has called them everything in the book and they dont want him to cancel a hunt......not hard to figure this out. I just told them to go have intercourse with themselves and got life
I'm not real clear on what your trying to say here Randy? I honestly don't know why they havent sent me a letter. I know I can't reply on the ARHA board anymore. I shouldn't have to get on here and spill my guts out trying to show whos side I'm on. You guys that I talk to on regular bases know whos side I'm on. I have plasterd all kinds of stuff about Mace, Del, and NKC-ARHA on the Q&A boards. I know that friendship is thicker than a cookie from the big guys and a first place plastic trophie. Its just too bad theres someone I really trusted as a close friend that rather take the cookie from the big guys and the trophie, over what they have done to those friends.
But God tells us to forgive and I forgave and went on and didn't worry about it.
QUOTE: They think they have a young guy who will take whatever they dish out and not stand up for himself in person
You know I can remember growing up, my dad always told me to never be afraid to stand up for what you know is right.
QUOTE:next thing you know is you know who will have Jesse handling his dogs at the cancelled MCBC hunt
Hey I think I heard this story before, If I remember right it left a sour taste is some peoples mouth. You can bet I'll be rabbit hunting this weekend and not handling his dogs.
QUOTE: In my opinion, they picked the wrong guy if they think they can manipulate him around. I get a feeling Jesse could care less what he says to them and what they think of him.
Why thanks Randy, I believe thats the nicest thing you ever said about me.LOL! They did pick the wrong guy to try to manipulate. I really don't care what they think of me. I know whats right and I'm not going to let them tell me any different. Hey, they don't know what kind of tricks this young boy has up his sleeves!!
I'm in the middle of useing one! 
Like I said earlier, I consider everyone on this topic my friend. So no hard feelings. Peace Jesse Duncan
QUOTE: Jesse has called them everything in the book and they dont want him to cancel a hunt......not hard to figure this out. I just told them to go have intercourse with themselves and got life
I'm not real clear on what your trying to say here Randy? I honestly don't know why they havent sent me a letter. I know I can't reply on the ARHA board anymore. I shouldn't have to get on here and spill my guts out trying to show whos side I'm on. You guys that I talk to on regular bases know whos side I'm on. I have plasterd all kinds of stuff about Mace, Del, and NKC-ARHA on the Q&A boards. I know that friendship is thicker than a cookie from the big guys and a first place plastic trophie. Its just too bad theres someone I really trusted as a close friend that rather take the cookie from the big guys and the trophie, over what they have done to those friends.
But God tells us to forgive and I forgave and went on and didn't worry about it.QUOTE: They think they have a young guy who will take whatever they dish out and not stand up for himself in person
You know I can remember growing up, my dad always told me to never be afraid to stand up for what you know is right.
QUOTE:next thing you know is you know who will have Jesse handling his dogs at the cancelled MCBC hunt
Hey I think I heard this story before, If I remember right it left a sour taste is some peoples mouth. You can bet I'll be rabbit hunting this weekend and not handling his dogs.
QUOTE: In my opinion, they picked the wrong guy if they think they can manipulate him around. I get a feeling Jesse could care less what he says to them and what they think of him.
Why thanks Randy, I believe thats the nicest thing you ever said about me.LOL! They did pick the wrong guy to try to manipulate. I really don't care what they think of me. I know whats right and I'm not going to let them tell me any different. Hey, they don't know what kind of tricks this young boy has up his sleeves!!
I'm in the middle of useing one! Like I said earlier, I consider everyone on this topic my friend. So no hard feelings. Peace Jesse Duncan
Lifes a garden dig it!
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WrongsideRandy
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Hey Jesse. What I meant was I think they always leave one of the friends in the ARHA so it can cause problems between them. I think the reason they didnt ban you as well is because they know you can hurt Brian and Paul more if you're left in and have hunts, that they cant attend. If they ban you MCBC is gone and they cant "punish" you.
I think its the same thing they tried doing to Matt, Dale and myself. You seen what happened.....they banned me for unsportsmanlike conduct for 3 years, for telling them to "go f... themselves", they banned Dale for whatever reason.....and then they left Matt to run on probation, which he did........hoping that would pee me and Dale off at Matt.
Jesse......I will never let these dogs destroy the friends I have made. It simply is not worth it to me. I honestly wish I had never bought my first beagle.
I have known Maces' family most of my life. I worked for Gene for years in the kennels when I was a kid. Even after all these problems I dont dislike Mace....as a matter of fact I kinda miss Mace, Ellen and Josh and hate that this ever got to this point. In hindsight it has been good for me.
You all take care,
Randy
I think its the same thing they tried doing to Matt, Dale and myself. You seen what happened.....they banned me for unsportsmanlike conduct for 3 years, for telling them to "go f... themselves", they banned Dale for whatever reason.....and then they left Matt to run on probation, which he did........hoping that would pee me and Dale off at Matt.
Jesse......I will never let these dogs destroy the friends I have made. It simply is not worth it to me. I honestly wish I had never bought my first beagle.
I have known Maces' family most of my life. I worked for Gene for years in the kennels when I was a kid. Even after all these problems I dont dislike Mace....as a matter of fact I kinda miss Mace, Ellen and Josh and hate that this ever got to this point. In hindsight it has been good for me.
You all take care,
Randy
Hey Mark,
I am sorry to hear about them leaving you out to dry like that. That seems typical that they are not consistent with the rules and distance like KY. Then to let you schedule hunts prior to granting a charter. The thing that is crazy is also the inconsistency with telling Jesse the reason he could not cancel was because they did not have time to notify the RH and then turn around and post saying the only reason he wanted to cancel was MCBC was mad. How childish they are......Maybe it had to do with the horrible experiences we had at our last hunt like Jesse getting put in the hospital and me twisting my ankle and Matt's Tugg dog getting killed and then Joyce just aggrevating the situation. MCBC diecided long ago that we would not hold anymore trials on Sunday after all the bad luck we had for starters. Also maybe it has to do with only 3 members left in the club who can participate or help run the arha trials. We at MCBC have always been in total agreement that we would run the trials and not depend on others to come in and run the hunts because we needed to keep control of our hunts so nobody else would come in and give our club a bad name. We were always concerned to make sure that all that came, knew that we did things above board and fair. We did not want any people leaving like the people at Danville feeling they were cheated. Also consider that Brian and I are the ones with the permission for the running grounds so with that being the case after the arha kicked us out do you expect us to assume responsibilty without being there at the hunt? If problems would have ever occured at our clubhouse we would have addressed them and corrected them if at all possible and not let them get out of control like a certain person did at another club. Hope this helps you understand some of the comments and if you have any questions feel free to call me and talk or for that matter we could get together and run dogs and talk if you want. 765-349-9170 Paul Greenwood
I am sorry to hear about them leaving you out to dry like that. That seems typical that they are not consistent with the rules and distance like KY. Then to let you schedule hunts prior to granting a charter. The thing that is crazy is also the inconsistency with telling Jesse the reason he could not cancel was because they did not have time to notify the RH and then turn around and post saying the only reason he wanted to cancel was MCBC was mad. How childish they are......Maybe it had to do with the horrible experiences we had at our last hunt like Jesse getting put in the hospital and me twisting my ankle and Matt's Tugg dog getting killed and then Joyce just aggrevating the situation. MCBC diecided long ago that we would not hold anymore trials on Sunday after all the bad luck we had for starters. Also maybe it has to do with only 3 members left in the club who can participate or help run the arha trials. We at MCBC have always been in total agreement that we would run the trials and not depend on others to come in and run the hunts because we needed to keep control of our hunts so nobody else would come in and give our club a bad name. We were always concerned to make sure that all that came, knew that we did things above board and fair. We did not want any people leaving like the people at Danville feeling they were cheated. Also consider that Brian and I are the ones with the permission for the running grounds so with that being the case after the arha kicked us out do you expect us to assume responsibilty without being there at the hunt? If problems would have ever occured at our clubhouse we would have addressed them and corrected them if at all possible and not let them get out of control like a certain person did at another club. Hope this helps you understand some of the comments and if you have any questions feel free to call me and talk or for that matter we could get together and run dogs and talk if you want. 765-349-9170 Paul Greenwood