Here is what will happen to you if you ask honest questions.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:40 pm
I am now 39 years old again……and lost my privilege to post on the arha board.
This was the letter I received today.
Dear Mr. Greenwood:
This letter is being sent in response to your posts on the Q&A Board. Please be aware the the Q&A Board is a free privilege and is to be used for the purpose of discussing hunts, questions regarding rules, dogs for sale, etc. and not for blasting the Executive Board which also includes the home office personnel or any individual. We understand your right to post your opinion but you must understand that it is our right to remove any and all post as we see fit.
Since it is obvious that you have contempt and lack of respect for the NKC/ARHA, the ARHA board and the way that I run the NKC /ARHA, for the betterment of the NKC /ARHA as the owner of NKC/ ARHA you are hereby banned from any participation in the NKC / ARHA permanently, As the sole owner of the NKC /ARHA I have the right to allow or disallow any participation in the NKC/ARHA.
Sincerely,
BLAH BLAH BLAH
The paragraphs below are the posts that I made and I still have a copy of I believe all but maybe one post that I missed from everyone else…………also notice in bold that you can ask questions ,,,,which I did,,,,,,and the other bold sentence speaking of blasting,,,,,which I do not believe I did. Judge my posts for your self.
I SAW WHERE SOME OTHERS WERE ASKING WHEN WE WOULD BE VOTING FOR ARHA PP UPCOMING POSITIONS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO POST THAT INFO ON THE BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? INCLUDING THE LOCATION , DATE, AND EXACT TIME THIS WILL HAPPEN. PLUS I HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN ONE OR EVEN BEEN PRESENT WHEN A VOTE WAS HELD SO IS IT POOSIBLE TO INCLUDE INFO ON HOW IT PLAYS OUT. I HAVE HEARD THAT THE CLUB IS SUPPOSE TO VOTE ON THE CANIDATES AND THUS INFORMING THE PRESIDENT ON HOW THEY WISH THERE CLUB VOTE TO BE CAST, IF THIS IS TRUE WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR WHO IS BEING NOMINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GIVE THE MEMBERS OF THE CLUBS TO CONSIDER THE OPTIONS. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A STICKY POST TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON WHO HAS BEEN NOMINATED PLUS IF THEY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.
THANKS, PAUL GREENWOOD (AKA... HUNTER1)(AKA... HI-TEC REDNECK KENNELS {1 OF 2 PARTS}[LOL])
Quote:
We do not anticipate having a Board of Director's meeting during the 2005 calendar year. I can assure the few of you who have made post here, and who seem to be concerned, that we will comply with these rules.
Hello Mace,
I pulled quotes from your post that confused me and was hoping you could clarify. For the purpose of clarity I cut and pasted the hunts from the upcoming hunt list here.
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/21/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/22/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
MIKE MYERS (740) 634-2788 RUSS RICE (740) 493-
1016
10/23/2005 CHILLICOTHE, OH 7:00AM FCRH COMPLETEDCANCELLED
PER
FRANCINE MYERS
Yes Yes Yes Yes
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/23/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
And this is the first paragraph from the PP rules with the sentence that seemed to contradict your statements in bold.
All rules, policies and procedures listed in this document have been established by the ARHA Progressive Pack Board of Directors and are in effect as of January 1, 2003 and remain in effect until December 31, 2009. These rules, as amended, will be in effect for six years. An election of officers, by the Board of Directors, will be held at the Progressive Pack U.S. Championship in the year 2005, to elect officers for the subsequent two years. The primary purpose of Progressive Pack Field Trials is to keep the beagle useful as a rabbit-hunting hound.
your assistance will be appreciated, Paul Greenwood
Quote:
Rule II.B.5-6. The term of office for the current elected officers and members will run through December 31, 2006.
This is II.B.5-6
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
All rules, policies and procedures listed in this document have been established by the ARHA Progressive Pack Board of Directors and are in effect as of January 1, 2003 and remain in effect until December 31, 2009. These rules, as amended, will be in effect for six years. An election of officers, by the Board of Directors, will be held at the Progressive Pack U.S. Championship in the year 2005, to elect officers for the subsequent two years. The primary purpose of Progressive Pack Field Trials is to keep the beagle useful as a rabbit-hunting hound.
The above is again the first paragraph from the PP rules and in the bold print the word subsequent is used.
This is the definition given in the dictionary for subsequent = : following in time, order, or place.
So the way I understand this is the following 2 years is 2006 and 2007 for the next term.
thanks again , Paul
Quote:
The Rules are frozen so there has not been a rules meeting since August of 2002.
Nominations for officers are open to everyone and are made at the meeting and then a formal vote is taken.
This is pasted from the rules section II.B.4-7
There must be 2/3-majority vote of the directors in attendance at the Board of Directors meeting to change any rule, policy, or procedure.
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
Changes to the ARHA Rules, Policies, and Procedures may be made only by vote of the Board of Directors.
Dave just checking to make sure this is correct in my understanding.
Rules are only frozen unless voted into effect by a 2/3 majority of the Board of Directors.
Is this correct ? thanks
The second part of your quote says that nominations are at that meeting. This confuses me because the following section pasted from the rule book.
II. Board of Directors:
A. The Board of Directors shall be made up of the Presidents of all Progressive Pack clubs and all members of the Executive Board, whether elected or appointed, under these conditions; if an alternate (appointed representative) is to be an official voting member of the Board of Directors he/she must have a written proxy from the club President he/she is representing. This written proxy must be presented to the Chairman of the Board when there is a meeting of the Board of Directors.
With this being the case how can the president that is not at the US Championship send a letter with the (appointed representative) to cast a vote without knowing who the nominees are? It would seem to make more sense from a written proxy stand point to know in advance who the nominees are so the (appointed representative) could vote according to that president's wishes. thanks again for clarifying
also Joyce,
Also in Jesse's post I think he may have been confused by I.C.7 which states....The Secretary/Treasurer shall keep an official record of all proceedings of the Board and shall provide copies of the minutes to all board members of this board.
This is clearly directed to the Executive Board and not the Board of Directors. At least that is what I am thinking.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
II.B. Duties of the Board of Directors
The Board of Directors shall set all Rules, policies, and procedures for the ARHA Progressive Pack and the conduct of all Progressive Pack competition events Licensed by the ARHA.
The Board of directors shall meet every 2 years unless a special meeting is called by the President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board
The President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board must notify each member of the Board of Directors, at least 10 days in advance of the meeting.
There must be 2/3-majority vote of the directors in attendance at the Board of Directors meeting to change any rule, policy, or procedure.
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
Changes to the ARHA Rules, Policies, and Procedures may be made only by vote of the Board of Directors.
With all respect to Del Morgan it plainly states in approx. 3 places that the rules can only be changed by the Board of Directors. I would this includes wether the rules are able to be changed or not.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
Quote:
WE WILL SEND AND WE SENT NOTIFICATIONS FROM THIS OFFICE TO ALL PP CLUBS WHEN THE ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE HELD AND WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE HELD. ALL NOTIFICATIONS ARE MAILED TO THE CLUBS' SECRETARIES AT THE ADDRESS THAT WE RECEIVE ON THE CLUB'S CHARTER INFORMATION.
In the above quote Joyce you say that you sent the notifications to the club's secretaries.
In previous posts we have been assured that the rules would be enforced. This does not seem to be accurate since you sent them to the secretaries and the rule is as pasted below.
part 1 ... ARHA has the info needed to send the notifications to the correct persons.
Chartered clubs are to hold their elections by December of each year. Form A is to be sent to the ARHA office by January 1, listing the type(s) of competition the club will hold, names of all officers, and addresses and phone numbers of these officers.
part 2 ....the wrong ARHA individual contacted the wrong persons at the club level.
The President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board must notify each member of the Board of Directors, at least 10 days in advance of the meeting.
With these things coming to light it would look like the last election was not according to the rules which would make it null and void.
Hopefully this will bring some clarity, Paul Greenwood
Hey Dave , Ok Thanks for pointing that rule out but I do not read in that rule that he has the right to freeze the rules. That rule simply gives him the final approval or disapproval of rules that are made, similar to a veto. Thanks , Paul
Hey Joyce,
TO START WITH THE FIRST POST I JUST ASKED SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS. YOUR SECOND POINT IS THE CLUBS WILL BE NOTIFIED IN TIME FRAME STATED IN THE RULES. BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION IN ONE OF YOUR EARLIER POSTS YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES WHEN YOU SENT THE NOTIFICATIONS TO THE CLUB SECRETARIES WHETHER THIS WAS INTENTIONAL OR NOT THIS IN ITSELF WOULD TAINT THE RESULTS. TO TOP THAT OFF WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHERS THAT ALL THE CLUBS WERE NOT NOTIFIED THUS ALSO TAINTING THE RESULTS. THEN A FINAL POINT TO BE MADE IS THAT JESSE DUNCAN DID NOT PLACE A VOTE BUT YET DEB RUSSELL SAYS THE RECORD SHOWS HE DID THUS ALSO TAINTING THE RESULTS. YOUR THIRD POINT STATES THAT THE LOCAL CLUBS SHOULD COME TO A DECISION ON WHO THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE VIA THE PRESIDENT , THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR A MAJORITY DECISION, THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND ACT LIKE WE SHOULD PUT ALL OUR FAITH IN OUR PRESIDENTS WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF BEAGLERS WOULD THEN BE MAKING THE DECISION. PLUS THE CLUB MEMBERS WOULD NOT ALL HEAR THE OTHER NOMINEES AT THE MEETING SINCE ALL DO NOT MAKE IT TO THE US CHAMPIONSHIP. YOUR FOURTH POINT IS THAT YOU THINK SOMEONE IS ACCUSING SOMEONE OF CHEATING, NOBODY HAS DONE THAT POINT BLANK BUT THINGS DEFINETLY LOOK FUNNY. IF YOU ARE SO SURE NOBODY CHEATED INTENTIONALLY THEN WHY NOT CLARIFY THE PROBLEM AND HOLD A NEW VOTE IN 2005 AND LET THE CHIPS FALL. ONE THING IS FOR SURE AND YOU CAN READ IT STRAIGHT FROM THE POSTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON PRACTICALLY EVERY QUESTION ASKED THE ANSWERS GIVEN WERE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE RULE BOOK OR DID NOT APPLY TO THE QUESTION. WHEN MATT WAS PUT ON PROBATION IT WAS BECAUSE HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULE BOOK TO THE LETTER, IT NOW IS OBVIOUS THAT THE RULES WERE NOT FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER AT THE LAST ELECTION ACCORDING TO YOUR POSTS AND OTHERS. SO IT WOULD SEEM TO BE AN EASY FIX, WE DON’T HAVE TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS THE DECISION MADE AGAINST MATT BUT HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION AND PUT IN WHOEVER THEY DECIDE ON THE CORRECT WAY BY THE RULES. THERE IS STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO HOLD THE VOTE BY THE RULES AT THE 2005 US CHAMPIONSHIP. IF YOU ARE ONLY WORRIED ABOUT HELPING THE ARHA THEN THIS VOTE WOULD CLEAR THE AIR AND NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE AFFECTS OR DO YOU NOT TRUST THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
http://www.elite.net/~gurpal/movie/beverhio.mid
This was the letter I received today.
Dear Mr. Greenwood:
This letter is being sent in response to your posts on the Q&A Board. Please be aware the the Q&A Board is a free privilege and is to be used for the purpose of discussing hunts, questions regarding rules, dogs for sale, etc. and not for blasting the Executive Board which also includes the home office personnel or any individual. We understand your right to post your opinion but you must understand that it is our right to remove any and all post as we see fit.
Since it is obvious that you have contempt and lack of respect for the NKC/ARHA, the ARHA board and the way that I run the NKC /ARHA, for the betterment of the NKC /ARHA as the owner of NKC/ ARHA you are hereby banned from any participation in the NKC / ARHA permanently, As the sole owner of the NKC /ARHA I have the right to allow or disallow any participation in the NKC/ARHA.
Sincerely,
BLAH BLAH BLAH
The paragraphs below are the posts that I made and I still have a copy of I believe all but maybe one post that I missed from everyone else…………also notice in bold that you can ask questions ,,,,which I did,,,,,,and the other bold sentence speaking of blasting,,,,,which I do not believe I did. Judge my posts for your self.
I SAW WHERE SOME OTHERS WERE ASKING WHEN WE WOULD BE VOTING FOR ARHA PP UPCOMING POSITIONS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO POST THAT INFO ON THE BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? INCLUDING THE LOCATION , DATE, AND EXACT TIME THIS WILL HAPPEN. PLUS I HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN ONE OR EVEN BEEN PRESENT WHEN A VOTE WAS HELD SO IS IT POOSIBLE TO INCLUDE INFO ON HOW IT PLAYS OUT. I HAVE HEARD THAT THE CLUB IS SUPPOSE TO VOTE ON THE CANIDATES AND THUS INFORMING THE PRESIDENT ON HOW THEY WISH THERE CLUB VOTE TO BE CAST, IF THIS IS TRUE WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR WHO IS BEING NOMINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GIVE THE MEMBERS OF THE CLUBS TO CONSIDER THE OPTIONS. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A STICKY POST TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON WHO HAS BEEN NOMINATED PLUS IF THEY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.
THANKS, PAUL GREENWOOD (AKA... HUNTER1)(AKA... HI-TEC REDNECK KENNELS {1 OF 2 PARTS}[LOL])
Quote:
We do not anticipate having a Board of Director's meeting during the 2005 calendar year. I can assure the few of you who have made post here, and who seem to be concerned, that we will comply with these rules.
Hello Mace,
I pulled quotes from your post that confused me and was hoping you could clarify. For the purpose of clarity I cut and pasted the hunts from the upcoming hunt list here.
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/21/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/22/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
MIKE MYERS (740) 634-2788 RUSS RICE (740) 493-
1016
10/23/2005 CHILLICOTHE, OH 7:00AM FCRH COMPLETEDCANCELLED
PER
FRANCINE MYERS
Yes Yes Yes Yes
KEITH BUSE (812) 922-5207 BOB FULLER (812) 897-
2165
10/23/2005 BOONEVILLE, IN 6:00AM ECBC UPCOMING-U.S.
CHAMPIONSHIP
Yes Yes Yes Yes
And this is the first paragraph from the PP rules with the sentence that seemed to contradict your statements in bold.
All rules, policies and procedures listed in this document have been established by the ARHA Progressive Pack Board of Directors and are in effect as of January 1, 2003 and remain in effect until December 31, 2009. These rules, as amended, will be in effect for six years. An election of officers, by the Board of Directors, will be held at the Progressive Pack U.S. Championship in the year 2005, to elect officers for the subsequent two years. The primary purpose of Progressive Pack Field Trials is to keep the beagle useful as a rabbit-hunting hound.
your assistance will be appreciated, Paul Greenwood
Quote:
Rule II.B.5-6. The term of office for the current elected officers and members will run through December 31, 2006.
This is II.B.5-6
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
All rules, policies and procedures listed in this document have been established by the ARHA Progressive Pack Board of Directors and are in effect as of January 1, 2003 and remain in effect until December 31, 2009. These rules, as amended, will be in effect for six years. An election of officers, by the Board of Directors, will be held at the Progressive Pack U.S. Championship in the year 2005, to elect officers for the subsequent two years. The primary purpose of Progressive Pack Field Trials is to keep the beagle useful as a rabbit-hunting hound.
The above is again the first paragraph from the PP rules and in the bold print the word subsequent is used.
This is the definition given in the dictionary for subsequent = : following in time, order, or place.
So the way I understand this is the following 2 years is 2006 and 2007 for the next term.
thanks again , Paul
Quote:
The Rules are frozen so there has not been a rules meeting since August of 2002.
Nominations for officers are open to everyone and are made at the meeting and then a formal vote is taken.
This is pasted from the rules section II.B.4-7
There must be 2/3-majority vote of the directors in attendance at the Board of Directors meeting to change any rule, policy, or procedure.
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
Changes to the ARHA Rules, Policies, and Procedures may be made only by vote of the Board of Directors.
Dave just checking to make sure this is correct in my understanding.
Rules are only frozen unless voted into effect by a 2/3 majority of the Board of Directors.
Is this correct ? thanks
The second part of your quote says that nominations are at that meeting. This confuses me because the following section pasted from the rule book.
II. Board of Directors:
A. The Board of Directors shall be made up of the Presidents of all Progressive Pack clubs and all members of the Executive Board, whether elected or appointed, under these conditions; if an alternate (appointed representative) is to be an official voting member of the Board of Directors he/she must have a written proxy from the club President he/she is representing. This written proxy must be presented to the Chairman of the Board when there is a meeting of the Board of Directors.
With this being the case how can the president that is not at the US Championship send a letter with the (appointed representative) to cast a vote without knowing who the nominees are? It would seem to make more sense from a written proxy stand point to know in advance who the nominees are so the (appointed representative) could vote according to that president's wishes. thanks again for clarifying
also Joyce,
Also in Jesse's post I think he may have been confused by I.C.7 which states....The Secretary/Treasurer shall keep an official record of all proceedings of the Board and shall provide copies of the minutes to all board members of this board.
This is clearly directed to the Executive Board and not the Board of Directors. At least that is what I am thinking.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
II.B. Duties of the Board of Directors
The Board of Directors shall set all Rules, policies, and procedures for the ARHA Progressive Pack and the conduct of all Progressive Pack competition events Licensed by the ARHA.
The Board of directors shall meet every 2 years unless a special meeting is called by the President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board
The President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board must notify each member of the Board of Directors, at least 10 days in advance of the meeting.
There must be 2/3-majority vote of the directors in attendance at the Board of Directors meeting to change any rule, policy, or procedure.
At the annual meeting of the Board of Directors, the Board shall elect a Chairman of the Board, the Watchdog Committee, and appoint other committees as it sees appropriate for the conduct of ARHA business for the upcoming calendar year.
The term of office for all elected officers and elected committee members is 2 years.
Changes to the ARHA Rules, Policies, and Procedures may be made only by vote of the Board of Directors.
With all respect to Del Morgan it plainly states in approx. 3 places that the rules can only be changed by the Board of Directors. I would this includes wether the rules are able to be changed or not.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
Quote:
WE WILL SEND AND WE SENT NOTIFICATIONS FROM THIS OFFICE TO ALL PP CLUBS WHEN THE ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE HELD AND WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE HELD. ALL NOTIFICATIONS ARE MAILED TO THE CLUBS' SECRETARIES AT THE ADDRESS THAT WE RECEIVE ON THE CLUB'S CHARTER INFORMATION.
In the above quote Joyce you say that you sent the notifications to the club's secretaries.
In previous posts we have been assured that the rules would be enforced. This does not seem to be accurate since you sent them to the secretaries and the rule is as pasted below.
part 1 ... ARHA has the info needed to send the notifications to the correct persons.
Chartered clubs are to hold their elections by December of each year. Form A is to be sent to the ARHA office by January 1, listing the type(s) of competition the club will hold, names of all officers, and addresses and phone numbers of these officers.
part 2 ....the wrong ARHA individual contacted the wrong persons at the club level.
The President of the ARHA, or the Chairman of the Board must notify each member of the Board of Directors, at least 10 days in advance of the meeting.
With these things coming to light it would look like the last election was not according to the rules which would make it null and void.
Hopefully this will bring some clarity, Paul Greenwood
Hey Dave , Ok Thanks for pointing that rule out but I do not read in that rule that he has the right to freeze the rules. That rule simply gives him the final approval or disapproval of rules that are made, similar to a veto. Thanks , Paul
Hey Joyce,
TO START WITH THE FIRST POST I JUST ASKED SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS. YOUR SECOND POINT IS THE CLUBS WILL BE NOTIFIED IN TIME FRAME STATED IN THE RULES. BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION IN ONE OF YOUR EARLIER POSTS YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES WHEN YOU SENT THE NOTIFICATIONS TO THE CLUB SECRETARIES WHETHER THIS WAS INTENTIONAL OR NOT THIS IN ITSELF WOULD TAINT THE RESULTS. TO TOP THAT OFF WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHERS THAT ALL THE CLUBS WERE NOT NOTIFIED THUS ALSO TAINTING THE RESULTS. THEN A FINAL POINT TO BE MADE IS THAT JESSE DUNCAN DID NOT PLACE A VOTE BUT YET DEB RUSSELL SAYS THE RECORD SHOWS HE DID THUS ALSO TAINTING THE RESULTS. YOUR THIRD POINT STATES THAT THE LOCAL CLUBS SHOULD COME TO A DECISION ON WHO THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE VIA THE PRESIDENT , THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR A MAJORITY DECISION, THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND ACT LIKE WE SHOULD PUT ALL OUR FAITH IN OUR PRESIDENTS WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF BEAGLERS WOULD THEN BE MAKING THE DECISION. PLUS THE CLUB MEMBERS WOULD NOT ALL HEAR THE OTHER NOMINEES AT THE MEETING SINCE ALL DO NOT MAKE IT TO THE US CHAMPIONSHIP. YOUR FOURTH POINT IS THAT YOU THINK SOMEONE IS ACCUSING SOMEONE OF CHEATING, NOBODY HAS DONE THAT POINT BLANK BUT THINGS DEFINETLY LOOK FUNNY. IF YOU ARE SO SURE NOBODY CHEATED INTENTIONALLY THEN WHY NOT CLARIFY THE PROBLEM AND HOLD A NEW VOTE IN 2005 AND LET THE CHIPS FALL. ONE THING IS FOR SURE AND YOU CAN READ IT STRAIGHT FROM THE POSTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON PRACTICALLY EVERY QUESTION ASKED THE ANSWERS GIVEN WERE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE RULE BOOK OR DID NOT APPLY TO THE QUESTION. WHEN MATT WAS PUT ON PROBATION IT WAS BECAUSE HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULE BOOK TO THE LETTER, IT NOW IS OBVIOUS THAT THE RULES WERE NOT FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER AT THE LAST ELECTION ACCORDING TO YOUR POSTS AND OTHERS. SO IT WOULD SEEM TO BE AN EASY FIX, WE DON’T HAVE TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS THE DECISION MADE AGAINST MATT BUT HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION AND PUT IN WHOEVER THEY DECIDE ON THE CORRECT WAY BY THE RULES. THERE IS STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO HOLD THE VOTE BY THE RULES AT THE 2005 US CHAMPIONSHIP. IF YOU ARE ONLY WORRIED ABOUT HELPING THE ARHA THEN THIS VOTE WOULD CLEAR THE AIR AND NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE AFFECTS OR DO YOU NOT TRUST THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
Thanks, Paul Greenwood
http://www.elite.net/~gurpal/movie/beverhio.mid