Question For The Judges

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:46 am

NKC Little Pack Rules.

4-dog cast.

The hounds are cast, dogs A-B-C and D.

Dog C opens and jumps a rabbit in view of the judge and handlers. A hot and powerful race around the hillside....pounding running. Then a check, which dog D claims and moves out on, the rest hark in and the race is back in order. Another check some time later and dog C claims and moves it out and the race is again back in order. With no breakdown, suddenly dogs A and B split from dogs C and D. Dogs A and B are seen running a rabbit also.

Which 2-pack of dogs does the judge order the handlers to get back with the other 2 dogs and which 2 dogs does he stay with and keep scoring?

Elementary?

Big Mike · Post by **Big Mike** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:23 am

It "appears" simple, the way you have it written. It appears dogs A&B are on a spilt and should be ordered brought up by the judge. However, it is solely the judges decision, he/she must determine which two dogs are running the original scoring rabbit, and which dogs are on the spilt. What appears clear to the handlers, may not be so evident to the judge. The handlers may all have an opinion on which rabbit is the scoring rabbit,and which is the spilt, but the only opinion that counts, is the judges, and his decision is FINAL.

windsplitters · Post by **windsplitters** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:31 am

does not seem to be enuff info you would probally call time out and get them all on one rabbit enless the judge knows the original rabbit most of the time it would be a judgemental call you would probally have to be their and see it to no the right anwser.

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:52 am

like haS BEEN SAID judges decisioni would feel like normally c and d prolly had the orignal rabbit usually since they been doin most the work.but have to been there to see for sure.if not known for sure best thing call time out and get them all together and go from 1st check!

bradadkins · Post by **bradadkins** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:58 am

if there was any doubt in my mind which was the original rabbit..I would call time out and get the dogs together on one rabbit..then go from the first check.

SilverZuk · Post by **SilverZuk** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:38 am

I have not read the other posts past the first.

The judge has to stay with the original rabbit.
If the judge is not sure which is the original, then he should have the dogs handled, put on one track and then score from the first check.

If he is not 100% sure which is the original rabbit, he should not be scoring. If he knows which is the original rabbit, then keep scoring and yell that you need dogs A and B in the race.

coolbrze · Post by **coolbrze** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:31 pm

[quote="SilverZuk"]The judge has to stay with the original rabbit.
If the judge is not sure which is the original, then he should have the dogs handled, put on one track and then score from the first check.

If he is not 100% sure which is the original rabbit, he should not be scoring.quote]

I agree.

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:03 pm

Go with the Rabbit your buddys dog is on!

Chris Shoopman · Post by **Chris Shoopman** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:08 pm

haha i have saw that happen before..lol......hell catch them put them all back togther make it far for everone, they payed just as much money to enter there dog in the hunt as the rest....

tnbeagleman · Post by **tnbeagleman** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:01 pm

dog C claims and moves it out and the race is again back in order

If dog c has claimed the check and you mean by the race is back in order (because the other dogs have harkened in) then you stay with dog c and have them others brought up

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:12 pm

How can you be sure C has the original rabbit? This aint a PP or UGBF question. The lead dog could have changed several times before the split. Just because C got the last check doesnt mean he didnt skirt a Briar patch and hit a stray rabbit later.

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:39 pm

Which 2-pack of dogs does the judge order the handlers to get back with the other 2 dogs and which 2 dogs does he stay with and keep scoring?

the ole copy aNd PASTE.. this was the ??sounds like to me he described the check was got by dog c and all dogs harked in the race was on then after that was happening there was a split while they were runnin and then which 2 pair of dogs did u follow ??if it was like this i'd stay with c and d or call time out and go from first check!hopeing this was correct help us out darring

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:56 pm

After each check, all dogs were packed up together running. And without a check, dogs A & B split on another rabbit.

Interesting responses so far!

Which 2-pack of dogs does the judge order the handlers to get back with the other 2 dogs and which 2 dogs does he stay with and keep scoring?

Yes Rick....that is the question, basically.

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:18 pm

ok then i would be hollering bring up, A and B..

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:23 pm

Darrin,
Now that you say they split on another rabbit, I would keep scoring C and D. Key being another rabbit, I take it you are saying C and D are still running the original rabbit.

In the original post you said A and B were running a rabbit, not another rabbit. Am I understanding you right now?

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