WHOA!!! THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT!!! or can it?

[wildhare2]

Hell they get free health care anyway!!!!!!!!!!! How about why they feel like they have the right to protest and have rallies? I believe most of that happened under other presidents!

[bluemouse]

Sorry about that one cheney was still cleaning his gun.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

bluegrass on Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:54 am

What say YOU about this Rufus...you have posted SEVERAL times where you are opposed to illegal immigration, even going so far as to send away work crews who employed illegals...what do YOU think about Obambi wanting to LEGALIZE over 12 MILLION of them JUST SO THEY CAN GET FREE HEALTH CARE???

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/se ... _position1

My money says you will tow the party line and say its ok to do this...you simply CANNOT criticize Obambi at all...

--------------------BLUE GRASS --YOU KNOW BETTER THAN TRY THAT B.S.YO JUST BROUGHT BUSH BACK INTO THE DEBATE,HE WAS TRYING ALL THE ITME TO LEGALIZE THESE ILLEGALS,AND THE STUPID DEM'S WENT ALONG WITH HIM THAT IS ONE TIME I WENT WITH THE REPUBLICANS THEY WERE AGAINST BUSH I THINK THE ONLY TIME,,AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT HE SAID AND THE BILL SAY'S NOT FOR ILLEGALS,----BUT---THEY ALREADY GET FREE HEALTH CARE AT ANY EMERGENCY ROOM,I HAD A HOOK TAKEN OUT OF MY FINGER, BACK IN THE SUMER AND THE E.R. WAS FULL,OF THEM,,
AND I AM MOST DEFINATELY AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION,,,I HAVE NOT HEARD OR READ ANYTHING ABOUT LEGALIZING THEM IN THE LAST FEW MONTH'S ,BUT BAD AS IT IS I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN,,IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THE CHEAP LABOR,,,,,,,,,,,


What bizzaro freaking planet do YOU live on Rufus??? They should have been locked up for carrying GUNS??? Ever hear a thing called the CONSTITUTION????? Jobless claims are DOWN???? Rufus, I truly believe you have lost your mind pal....

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SAID IF PEOPLE CARRED GUN'S TO BUSH'S,RALLEY'S OH YEA, THAT'S RIGHT, NO ONE COULD GET INTO HIS RALLY'S,THEY JUST USED PAINTING'S OF THE SAME PEOPLE,,,-------------AND SINCE YOU LIKE TO MISDIRECT THE TRUTH, I DID NOT SAY FOR CARRING GUN'S ,BUT FOR THE DISREPECT AND CALLING THE PRESIDENT THE NAMES YOU,
WOULD NOT CALL YOUR WORST HOUND,,I MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON HOW I SAID IT ,,,,,,,
AND YES JOBLESS CLAIMS ARE DOWN ,STOCK MARKET UP,HOUSING MKT START UP'S ARE ALSO UP,--BUT HECK YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS ,YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO STIR THE POT,,,,,,BUT HEY THAT IS OK ,,,,,,,,,,

[TC]

Hey Rufus.
Here is a Quote From one of YOUR CREW!!!

'We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'.'

(Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.) 'Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it'.

Guess WHO Rufus........

Does this Sound like Something YOU could go For?????
Sharing ANY profit you made from your retirement investments!!!!
THAT MEANS ANY FUNDS you Made From a Company or your own retirement Fund invested on your behalf Aint that How most retirement Co Work???
By INVESTING the MONEY YOU put in!!!!!

We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn't Marx say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.' (I am not rich, are you?)

In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren't going to believe this.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds!) Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities

thats RIGHT RUFUS your OWN PRECIOUS SPEAKER Of THE HOUSE NANCY PELOSI
And THESE are the PEOPLE YOU SUPPORT!!!!!!
HOW CAN YOU??????

[Pine Mt Beagles]

T.C. WHAT THE HECK MAKES YOU THINK I SUPPORT NANCY P.I DON'T LIKE HER AT ALL SHE IS TO WEAK AND TO EASY ON THE RIGHT WING NUT'S,,,---------------NO WIND FALL TAX HAS BILL HAS EVEN BEEN BROUGHT UP YET IT WAS MENTIONED,I SURE AS HE!! AM NOT FOR IT,AND THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT ILLEGALS IS PLAIN,IMMIGRATION IS ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS MAJOR WEKNESS'S,-----------BUT THE ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY WILL GET CITIZENSHIP IF NOT THIS TIME IT WILL BE THE NEXT,I DON'T LIKE IT AND SOME OF YOU GUY'S DON'T EITHER,BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN STOP IT ,TO MUCH CHEAP LABOR,,AND I'AM STILL AN INDEPENDENT, AND WE ALL KNOW INDEPENDENT VOTERS IS AT A 30 YEAR HIGH,I JUST WISH WE COULD FIND A CANDIDATE,,,,,,,,,,,,

[TC]

Ok Rufus
Good Deal it is just that With your Sometimes Blind Support of Obama it Seems you Go Along With everything he Does.
And SHE seems to have HIS Complete Support Also...........
I have Given Obama EVERY opportunity to Prove me Wrong And SO FAR he has Done the Complete Opposite of What is RIGHT Even the PUPPET masters Seem to be Out of Control With him!!!!!
its ok Rufus one Of these Days YOU WILL SHAKE the BLINDERS off!!!
We Can Only hope........legislation has been brought up on MANY occasions to help the immigration problem Sanctions against major Corporations that use illegal Workers Heavy Fines for those out of Compliance It is just that the major money in this country like em and until the people can be heard and again be in Control There Will not be anything Done... Again our Vote needs to be heard and Our LAWS upheld there are LAWS in PLACE to prevent and help Deter the illegals in this Country it is just that NOBODY will UPHOLD them

[bluegrass]

,AND I'AM STILL AN INDEPENDENT, AND WE ALL KNOW INDEPENDENT VOTERS IS AT A 30 YEAR HIGH,I JUST WISH WE COULD FIND A CANDIDATE,,,,,,,,,,,,




Thanks a lot Rufus...that bit of absolute fantasy(mixed with a bit of self delusion) just made me spit coffee all over my keyboard.....




Tony

[2500 HD]

,AND I'AM STILL AN INDEPENDENT, AND WE ALL KNOW INDEPENDENT VOTERS IS AT A 30 YEAR HIGH,I JUST WISH WE COULD FIND A CANDIDATE,,,,,,,,,,,,




Thanks a lot Rufus...that bit of absolute fantasy(mixed with a bit of self delusion) just made me spit coffee all over my keyboard.....




Tony

Dire need of Medication........... Being bi polar is tough to diagnois, but it is clear in this situation, that dufus fits the definition.

Hope you got your key board dried out.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by TC on Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:44 pm

Ok Rufus
Good Deal it is just that With your Sometimes Blind Support of Obama it Seems you Go Along With everything he Does.
And SHE seems to have HIS Complete Support Also...........
I have Given Obama EVERY opportunity to Prove me Wrong And SO FAR he has Done the Complete Opposite of What is RIGHT Even the PUPPET masters Seem to be Out of Control With him!!!!!
its ok Rufus one Of these Days YOU WILL SHAKE the BLINDERS off!!!
We Can Only hope........legislation has been brought up on MANY occasions to help the immigration problem Sanctions against major Corporations that use illegal Workers Heavy Fines for those out of Compliance It is just that the major money in this country like em and until the people can be heard and again be in Control There Will not be anything Done... Again our Vote needs to be heard and Our LAWS upheld

---------------------------------WELL THE LAWS HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS ABOUT ILLEGALS, AND SO FAR WE HAVE HAD NO ONE WITH THE GUT'S TO STAND ON THE LAW,RIGHT OR LEFT,---TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED--
NOW YOU SAY YOU HAVE GIVEN OBAMA, EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE YOU WRONG,,,AS OF TODAY I SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA,,,,((TOMORROW IS A DIFFERENT DAY)),,,,OF COURSE HE COULD DO BETTER,BUT AS OF FRIDAY THE STOCK MARKET IS UP,GAS IS DOWN, SINCE HE STARTED,NEW HOME START UP'S WERE UP,HOME SALES WERE UP,AUTO SALES UP,CONSUMER CONFIDENCE IS UP ALSO ,JOBLESS CLAIM'S ARE DOWN,FORD, FOR ONE IS CALLING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK,AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS LEADERSHIP AND CONFIDENCE IS IMPROVING,NO ONE HAS TAKEN OUR GUN'S AS OF YET,THE DEBT IS NOT GOOD ,BUT IT WAS NOT GOOD BEFORE HE STARTED,HE IS TRYING TO HELP REGULATE WALL STREET,I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN BUT HE IS TRYING,,SOME COMPANIES ARE PAYING SOME OF THE TARP ONEY BACK,NOT MUCH BUT A START,------ON A SIDE NOTE INSURANCE COMPANIES PROFIT'S OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS GROWN OVER 300 %,AND AN ESTIMATED 45,000 PEOPLE WILL DIE A YEAR BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE,AND OVER 10,000 A YEAR WILL GO BANKRUPT,
PUBLIC ,,,,,,,OPTION,,,,,,,KEY WORD OPTION,,CHOICE,,,,THANK'S FOR YOR PATIENCE,AND GOOD LUCK..INDEPENDENT'S RULE,,

[randy hicks]

gas prices suck, the price of gas was driven high "four dollars plus" and we the people suckd it up,now its two dollars fifty cents and you think its a deal,please. god screwed are government no hurricanes to blame on the sudden increases in the past few years. as far as the government goes it so worried about are health "fat kids" its willing to put a tax on pop or things with sugar it, its a drug and the dealer has allot of addicts,why lie to the people if the government needs the cash why not just say so.Obama plan for health care is thirty eight hundred dollars for uninsured people kinda like auto insurance you dont have it we will fine you. what the heck is that all about.no i am not happy with are so called leaders in this country and what they are not doing for the people.

[Rabbithoundjb]

I don't know ( well I do ) where you get your info. but consumer confidence is at an all time low and unemployment was at the highest level in OH!!! 30 years in August. Foreclosures are still on the rise and they should be selling houses and vehicles , there having to just about give them away to move them. Leadership confidence, not only has it dropped worldwide take a look at his numbers here.

[deadeyebeagle]

its really not surprising to me that he is failing as a leader what is suprising to me is thare are so many moronic people in this country that voted for him

[bluegrass]

---------------------------------WELL THE LAWS HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS ABOUT ILLEGALS, AND SO FAR WE HAVE HAD NO ONE WITH THE GUT'S TO STAND ON THE LAW,RIGHT OR LEFT,---TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED--
NOW YOU SAY YOU HAVE GIVEN OBAMA, EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE YOU WRONG,,,AS OF TODAY I SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA,,,,((TOMORROW IS A DIFFERENT DAY)),,,,OF COURSE HE COULD DO BETTER,BUT AS OF FRIDAY THE STOCK MARKET IS UP,GAS IS DOWN, SINCE HE STARTED,NEW HOME START UP'S WERE UP,HOME SALES WERE UP,AUTO SALES UP,CONSUMER CONFIDENCE IS UP ALSO ,JOBLESS CLAIM'S ARE DOWN,FORD, FOR ONE IS CALLING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK,AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS LEADERSHIP AND CONFIDENCE IS IMPROVING,NO ONE HAS TAKEN OUR GUN'S AS OF YET,THE DEBT IS NOT GOOD ,BUT IT WAS NOT GOOD BEFORE HE STARTED,HE IS TRYING TO HELP REGULATE WALL STREET,I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN BUT HE IS TRYING,,SOME COMPANIES ARE PAYING SOME OF THE TARP ONEY BACK,NOT MUCH BUT A START,------ON A SIDE NOTE INSURANCE COMPANIES PROFIT'S OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS GROWN OVER 300 %,AND AN ESTIMATED 45,000 PEOPLE WILL DIE A YEAR BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE,AND OVER 10,000 A YEAR WILL GO BANKRUPT,
PUBLIC ,,,,,,,OPTION,,,,,,,KEY WORD OPTION,,CHOICE,,,,THANK'S FOR YOR PATIENCE,AND GOOD LUCK..INDEPENDENT'S RULE,,




Good grief Rufus, sounds like high school again....:independents rule...LMFAO. By the way, almost EVERYTHING you posted here is absolutely false and I dare say an outright LIE...the only reason I dont go through your post and show everyone is that I am tired of the same old rhetoric you contantly spew...you are a mouthpiece of MSNBC and you know nothing else. Its kinda sad really that you would let yourself be led astray by these charlatans and phonies all in the name of getting a government check. Besides, were I to point out where you are blatantly wrong you wouldnt believe it anyway...even when someone here posts PROOF of Obambi hypocrisy, lies, communism, backstabbing, etc, you REFUSE to believe it. Obambi could rape a chicken on live tv and you would somehow justify it. You are a very sad follower Rufus, a shadow of what I bet you USED to be. Someday you MIGHT see the truth of how things are working in this country...you are a complete fool if you believe that Obambi and his cronies have YOUR welfare at heart...everything they do, let me repeat, EVERYTHING they do is done with the intention of strengthening GOVERNMENT control at the expense of individual liberty....to quote a modern movie line..."so this is how democracy dies, to thunderous applause." Liberty in this country will die with the likes of YOU sititng back waiting for their handout for all your precious support. I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you.





Tony

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Good grief Rufus, sounds like high school again....:independents rule...LMFAO. By the way, almost EVERYTHING you posted here is absolutely false and I dare say an outright LIE...the only reason I dont go through your post and show everyone is that I am tired of the same old rhetoric you contantly spew...you are a mouthpiece of MSNBC and you know nothing else. Its kinda sad really that you would let yourself be led astray by these charlatans and phonies all in the name of getting a government check. Besides, were I to point out where you are blatantly wrong you wouldnt believe it anyway...even when someone here posts PROOF of Obambi hypocrisy, lies, communism, backstabbing, etc, you REFUSE to believe it. Obambi could rape a chicken on live tv and you would somehow justify it. You are a very sad follower Rufus, a shadow of what I bet you USED to be. Someday you MIGHT see the truth of how things are working in this country...you are a complete fool if you believe that Obambi and his cronies have YOUR welfare at heart...everything they do, let me repeat, EVERYTHING they do is done with the intention of strengthening GOVERNMENT control at the expense of individual liberty....to quote a modern movie line..."so this is how democracy dies, to thunderous applause." Liberty in this country will die with the likes of YOU sititng back waiting for their handout for all your precious support. I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you.
------------
-----WELL LET'S SEE YOU SAID,,almost EVERYTHING I posted here is absolutely false and I dare say an outright LIE...
Its kinda sad really that you would let yourself be led astray by these charlatans and phonies all in the name of getting a government check.THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID,,

Obambi could rape a chicken on live tv and you would somehow justify it. You are a very sad follower Rufus, a shadow of
what I bet you USED to be. Someday you MIGHT see the truth of how things are working in this country...you are a complete fool if you believe that Obambi and his cronies have YOUR welfare at heart..
Besides, were I to point out where you are blatantly wrong you wouldnt believe it anyway...even when someone here posts PROOF of Obambi hypocrisy, lies, communism, backstabbing, etc, you REFUSE to believe it. Obambi could rape a chicken on live tv and you would somehow justify it.,,,,, You are a very sad follower Rufus, a shadow of your former self,,-----------------
SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING,IS IF A REPUBLICAN DOES NOT SAY IT,IT IS A LIE, NO ONE ELSE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION,BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE,WITH IT,I 'AM A LIAR,OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST ,A NAZI,A SOCIALIST,OR WHAT EVER ELSE YOU WANT TO CALL HIM,---------SARAH LIE- LIN,SHOWED A LIVE TURKEY BEING PLUCKED ON NATIONAL TELEVISION,YOU GUY'S LIKED THAT,GEORGE BUSH ,THE UNDISPUTED AORST PRESIDENT AND AMERICAN IN HISTORY ,DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY,SOLD THE REST TO WALL STREET,STARTED TWO WAR'S FOR HIS AND DICK CHANEY'S FAMILY'S OIL,KILLED ALMOST 4000,OF AMERICA'S SON'S AND DAUGHTERS,ALONG WITH AN ESTIMATED 100,000,WOMEN AND CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED AND DEMOLISHED A WHOLE COUNTRY,YOU GUY'S ALSO CHEERED THAT ON AS WELL,SO WITH THAT THOUGHT I WOULD ONLY SAY,,,,,,YOU CAN CALL ME A LIAR,,CALL OBAMA ,WHAT EVER YOU THINK IS YOU THINK IS BEST,--------BUT I ONCED RESPECTED, YOUR OPINION,NOW IT IS SAD THAT THERE IS ONE THING I CANNOT CALL YOU,AND THAT IS AN AMERICAN,,YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE, AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE ,YOU DO NOT RESPECT DEMOCRACY,YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD BE PART OF AMERICA AND PAY YOUR SHARE OF TAXES,OR YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN UNITED WE STAND DIVED WE FALL,THE ONLY THING YOU DO BELIEVE IN IS,GIVE ME MINE AND TO HE!! WITH THIS THE REST..GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR'S,,,,,,,,,,,AND

[bluegrass]

BUT I ONCED RESPECTED, YOUR OPINION,NOW IT IS SAD THAT THERE IS ONE THING I CANNOT CALL YOU,AND THAT IS AN AMERICAN,,



Yeah, but HERE on the INTERNET, on this BOARD, THIS is the ONLY place you would get away with that statement to me Rufus...I can guarantee you that.




Tony