This is 2008 over again, just different...

[Newt]

"Its not turning around more illegals enter the country everyday,"

I just saw on the News that a Syrian Refugee was just picked up for wanting to aid ISIS and bomb this country. I'll bet that the refugee was throughly vetted before he was allowed into the country, just like our President was vetted.

[Rabbithoundjb]

This country will not turn around until the voting electorate get the progressives out of discision making loop.

[littlewoody]

There ya go again off the rails. if your playing in the market your playing loose with your money. Its not turning around more illegals enter the country everyday, the government wants to bring people here that want to kill us. More people than ever on the backs of the working people. Companies continue to out source out of the country. More part time jobs without benefits than full time good paying jobs with benefits. Just watched another layoff right here at the plant where I work. There is no cheap stuff everything is just like your truck reference the financer just lengthens the terms and it actually cost you more. Too much dead weight.

I agree 100% why is that most people can't buy a bed set in this country or tv without five year payment plan .

[bluemouse]

Because we live in a instant gratification world littlewoody

[S.R.Patch]

There ya go again off the rails. if your playing in the market your playing loose with your money. Its not turning around more illegals enter the country everyday, the government wants to bring people here that want to kill us. More people than ever on the backs of the working people. Companies continue to out source out of the country. More part time jobs without benefits than full time good paying jobs with benefits. Just watched another layoff right here at the plant where I work. There is no cheap stuff everything is just like your truck reference the financer just lengthens the terms and it actually cost you more. Too much dead weight.

Rabbit, you assume too much.
I do not "play loose with money", there are still basic dynamics to the market. Some of the wisest advice I received I'll freely pass on to you, "stick with what you know" when investing. Time horizon, risk/reward dictate percentages,... study.knowledge and open mindedness to change and trends adjust investment. Like you, most people freeze up when trends change and new innovation or change of resources starts to replace the existing status-qua, they ride the old horse into the ditch.
I'll agree, you should stick with your cd's or the bed mattress, nothing wrong with holding cash but we need something at work to offset that inflation that eats up your worth or you become more worthless.
If we can get rid of the unions and all the imported dead weight, those good paying jobs will return and all those benefits will be heaped upon us again. Layoffs usually mean supply/demand is out of balance or innovation has found a faster horse.
I work in energy and it has certainly been turned on it's ear. Coal stocks and oil stocks were good forever, but not now. I've seen the conversion going on all around me, the new laws and limitations on emissions. Cost or restrictions cause water to change course and take the path of least resistance, you go with the flow or sit in the puddle that's left to evaporate and disappear(emotion).
Since you bet on yourself, I venture a guess your not sitting around waiting for the sun to come out, or the next rain to start. Your making a move to increase your value to the company or training for a new department or job,...correct?

[littlewoody]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcn3zauG_KU

[Rabbithoundjb]

Wrong again Patch, I don't have time to sit around waiting on the government to fix or finish ruining the country. I said I bet on me so I haven't bet on the market or the government. Your the smart one you figure it out. While you keep dissecting the market I'll keep sitting myself up for retirement. The stock market is a rigged game

[S.R.Patch]

Since it's become crystal clear we don't understand each other there's no need to carry on a one-sided disagreement. I'll just wish you the best with your retirement planning and hope it is forward of the market trend in the future...

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Patch,,
These guys are a mess,

Some time back you and I talked some about stocks ,and I think you mentioned Silver,,By the time my money rolled over I found I could invest in LED'S and be fairly safe have not made anything much but not loosing either.
Hang in there.

[S.R.Patch]

Howdy PM,
Yes, I got into ford and GE, sold out of F and kept GE, turbines for air and gas generation I think will support them. After we talked I also got into nat gas pipeline and storage, dividend/drip has me buying more all the time for now. I'm averaging about 6 1/2 % so far, better than the bank. I like buying cheap on the down market and the dividend reinvestment buys and build stock shares and increasing income flow to buy more. When I retire, I'll just divert the dividends from reinvesting, to my check account to live on.
I'm staying 50/50 cash/stocks so I can sleep well at night...lol... looking a AA right now, they been hit hard on metal but have contracts ahead, unless you think they're going broke, a great chance for a double easy enough.jmho
Money is made off of market emotion, if you believe the world is coming to an end, don't worry we're all gone, but if you believe America is about the spirit to overcome and the king and his minions still like to collect from the fruits of others labor, a force will build to lift all ships again in the future. I'm betting on America!

[Rabbithoundjb]

I find it hard to believe you two are investing in the market helping those greedy rich people get even richer.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Natural gas ,is really good right now if you can get in the the right place.

These guy's have no clue what you are talking about they are stuck in the Pre-Bush era.

I doubt they even know what the stock market was in 2008,When Bush bailed them out.Probably don't remember the Bush/Cheney bailout.

Much like the Birther,,lies they spewed about President Obama,,,

Now that they have A Canadian running on the Republican Ticket.

They will most likely get behind whoever the Party puts forth with zero thought of Country.

Here is the perfect Republican candidate .


Trump said in 1998.
IF I WERE TO RUN I 'D RUN AS A REPUBLICAN.
THEY ARE THE DUMBEST GROUP OF VOTERS
IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY LOVE ANYTHING ON FOX NEWS .
I COULD LIE AND THEY'D STILL EAT IT UP.
I BET MY NUMBERS BE TERRIFIC.

He has and they have.LOL
PEOPLE MAGAZINE,,,,1998

[cris axtell/coal hill ken]

PM Trump became a Republican because he saw the light instead of living in the dark like you do.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Trump,,
Became A Republican for exactly the reason he said the dumbest people on the Planet.He lies they love it.

Muslim,Syrian,Mexican,,,,All better than A Republican .

The Republican Party, is America's worst Enemy Today.They even hate each other.

[Pine Lakes]

Good Lord you're stupid Rufus. You are scum. A modern day Saul Alinsky. Stuck on the nipple and doing everything you can to stay on it. A waste of tax payer money.