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Stony_Branch_Kennels wrote:I was always told by the old timers that Coccidiosis stays in the ground forever. Do you guys and gals keep your dogs on the ground, on concrete or do you keep them off the ground? All my dogs are kept off the ground and I have never had problems with Coccidiosis. *knocks on wood*.
You are probably right. The incidious stuff never dies! It can lay dormant forever. I have a kennel with 4 cement runs but, my dogs are on the lawn/dirt most of the day and because of that there is no way to get rid of it. Its really not that pesky to be honest if you know how to deal with it. No worse than worms. The only thing that will Kill it is steam. Just another of many bugs we live with in our daily lives.
The way I understand it, coccidia is everywhere. All dogs have it in their digestive system. It is only when a dog or pup's immune system gets down that they have problems with it. Usually a pup when weaned stresses out and causes a problem. Older dogs could be run down, cold weather, extremely hot weather, filthy kennels, worms, and illness does coccidia effect them.
I also use VALBAZEN it works great for --TAPE WORMS -- give to pups at two weeks
1cc per 10 lb. three days in a row and repeat in 21 days for three days for older dogs
BioSol only helps control bowel infection. It “does not” help control coccidiosis. Most dogs with coccidiosis tend to have their bowels ruffed up inside because of the straining the diarrhea causes. BioSol does help allot with the healing of the inside of the bowels, and it helps control diarrhea. Twice a day for three days is the maximum time your suppose to give BioSol.
I’ve used BioSol along with Albon to help heal up the inside of the bowels of pups for 20 years. I also follow up with it after any diarrhea issues (including Parvo). It helps speed the healing process up.
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keystone kid, i have also used the mix that your talking about and it
works well. i use it on all the hounds not just pup's. the omega 3 does
a coulple of things i like. one it shines there coat really well, it also
cuts the sulfa. it is also suppose to rid them of ring worm and or
other bacteria coat wise. i think it should be given at least once a year
to all hounds. it is a pain to give it for ten days or i usually mix a
double batch and use it till its gone. i used to give it orally in there
mouths but now i just put it on there feed and they take it a lot easier.
bwall
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BIG AL wrote:Are you treating pups that already have coccidiosis or treating them to prevent it?
These methods are designed to do both treat & prevent.
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I treat all my puppies at weaning no matter if they have it or not. its not worth taking a chance since we already know we have it in our ground. A puppy can go down fast from it if left untreated. I started my 4 week old puppies yesterday on food. Oh boy the mess!!! albon starts tomorrow.
S.R.Patch wrote:Maybe just lucky but I've never had or seen pups with coccidia younger than 7-8 weeks old, seems as long as they were nursing and not under the stress after weaning, they were ok, also, never had coccidia in winter, always in the heat humid of summer. Also not had coccidia since putting clay base oil dry in dog house pups live in, seems to aid keep the box dry and pups healthy, coccidia can't live in the dry environment...just my experience
What other chemicals does clay base oil dry have in it?
Are you sure there’s nothing in it that would harm dogs or puppies?
How does it do for insulation in the cold times of the year? I live in north central Indiana, and it has already got down in the lower teens.
I currently have acute bloody diarrhea in my oldest litter (10 weeks old). I also have a litter that is 7 weeks old that I think I’ve seen some blood in their stool, and has had diarrhea. I started using BioSol in these two litters.
For over 4 days the 10-week-old litter has been on Albon suspension. But I still see blood in their diarrhea.
All my pups are up on their shots. So I shouldn’t have parvo. I never have seen any of them throw-up.
I’m going to the vet to get some antibiotics off him called Metronidazole for the 7-week and 10 week old pups. He said it works better than BioSol. He said it is a six-day supply.
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years ago there was a good artical in THE RABBIT HUNTER BOOK On using VALBAZEN for COCCIDIOSIS---I ask the vet and he said it was good and no danger for pups --also good for TAPE WORM-- I think it is more of a problem down south than north--I have used it for a long time don't take a chance
S.R.Patch wrote:Maybe just lucky but I've never had or seen pups with coccidia younger than 7-8 weeks old, seems as long as they were nursing and not under the stress after weaning, they were ok, also, never had coccidia in winter, always in the heat humid of summer. Also not had coccidia since putting clay base oil dry in dog house pups live in, seems to aid keep the box dry and pups healthy, coccidia can't live in the dry environment...just my experience
What other chemicals does clay base oil dry have in it?
Are you sure there’s nothing in it that would harm dogs or puppies?
I don't think, I've saw them eating alittle and they didn't die...
How does it do for insulation in the cold times of the year? I live in north central Indiana, and it has already got down in the lower teens.
Don't know, I only used it to keep the floor of the box dry, as long as I kept a dusting of it on, the floor was dry, the pups got better and it never came back. The trick seemed to be to keep the floor of the box dry, the dark damp environment of a damp box, I could never get them over it, it kept coming back even after bleaching. The box had to be kept dry.
We had 9 degs the other morning I came home, it was cold, now it's back to 40's.
I currently have acute bloody diarrhea in my oldest litter (10 weeks old). I also have a litter that is 7 weeks old that I think I’ve seen some blood in their stool, and has had diarrhea. I started using BioSol in these two litters.
This post has been going on for a week now, they should be getting better, not worse. My advice is stop playing around with what to try next and get them to the vet before you loose them all. Even Valbazen would have stopped the blood, your asking for infection to kill them by letting this go on. Do you see any jelly looking mucus in the stool? or just blood.
Sorry to be harsh but you've got a second litter showing blood now.
At least give them a cc of Valbazen a day and watch the blood stop and them feel better...
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For over 4 days the 10-week-old litter has been on Albon suspension. But I still see blood in their diarrhea.
All my pups are up on their shots. So I shouldn’t have parvo. I never have seen any of them throw-up.
I’m going to the vet to get some antibiotics off him called Metobiosol (I probably am incorrect in the spelling) for the 7-week and 10 week old pups. He said it works better than BioSol. He said it is a six-day supply.
Stick a pup or two of the sickest in your pocket when you go and let the vet have a look...
I've never had it(cocci). The pups stay in above ground kennels. I'm a lot more scared of parvo than cocci or giardia. I do know a man who kept his pups in what used to be chicken pens, and he had coccidiosis but that may be coincidental. I'm not so sure you can tell beyond a doubt you have cocci without a vet exam. I sure couldn't diagnose it. Bloody diarrhea can come from a lot of causes.
