Deer breaking does this work.

[warddog]

I will NEVER forget my boot camp days in the good ole US Army. Into the sealed hut, fire off the tear gas, everyone in the group of about 10 to 15 guys had to yell "gas" before anyone can put their mask on. After everyone had them on, fitted and cleared, the drill instructor says remove the masks and after you say your name, rank and serial number you can leave the enclosed hut. I happened to be super sensitive to the stuff and had one hell of a time getting it all out. Man, were those others pissed at me not being able to get it out very quickly. No one ever thought that to be cruel for humans let alone for a dog. I'll tell you the snot was runnong out of my nose and my eyes were burning fire for quite some time after. Don't let a little red pepper get your panties in a wad as it ain't even close to what I remember of the tear gas treatment!

[rabbitsmoker]

I didnt read it i owned a dog that i raised that i had never been shocked until she was 14 months old and when i did about 10 seconds she fell on the ground shaking and foaming at the mouth Later in the same season i shocked her again The same thing happen After that from time to time she would jerk and get tinse but she would have a seizure everytime you shock her took her to the vet she had this long word of what happen and is rare Just know of one other dog that it has happen to but I still use electric collars and will always She wanted to hang one on my neck and shock me and see how i would react

[Vicious Kennels]

boy am I going to open a can of worms but have you ever noticed the guys that have trouble with dogs running deer seem to have the same problem dog after dog? We have noticed that the normal guy sounds the same when he calls his dogs to a jumped rabbit as he does when he sees a deer jump up in front of his dog. I was taught not to say a word just let the dogs figure it out on there own and then correct the ones that mess up.

[rabbitsmoker]

Im opposite i dont say nothing on a jumped deer i let TT do the talking and on a jumped rabbit i holler rabbit rabbit rabbit ect... several times Back before i had a collar i would yell and scream and run my guts out but i made a promise to myself i was gonna have broke dogs are quit it was hard the type dogs i run but finally succeeded 5 gyps 2-2yr -2 3yr 1-4yr deer broke and 2 of them are natural deer broke i have not had my collar on them all season just on my 11 month old pups Knock on wood and they have had several oportunities with some i have hunted with Mine have allways told on them very proud of them

[bill huttozac]

I am with those that believe the pepper thing to be cruel, Something that a vast majority of Beagle owners would never consider doing. Tritronics get my vote.
I read someplace that a dog's sense of smell is 7 times better that a humans. After the "pepper torture" that pup can not smell his own tail.
Take note next time you hear someone say his hounds are "Deer Proof" and the majority of his dogs will sport e-collars when the tail gate drops.

[Bobby Vest]

I have never seen a remedy that wasn't cruel in some way? Also have you ever seen one get hit by a car while running deer?

[rabbitsmoker]

I have never seen a remedy that wasn't cruel in some way? Also have you ever seen one get hit by a car while running deer?

I would have to agree thats the point i was getting at its all cruel just depends on what tecnique you choose to use I choose Electric collar and run shocking charge thru thier body its all cruel I really perfer the natural The only way i have seen thats not cruel that works is raise them with your dogs

[tenntreedog]

Friend had 3 beagles that ran loose for 2 yrs. could run the hair off of a deer.2 times in a setup situation and the dogs would back out of neigbors yard when they saw the concrete deer.was funny to watch I`ve also seen dogs that I dont think anything short of a bullet would break them from running deer.

[RunninHard]

Take note next time you hear someone say his hounds are "Deer Proof" and the majority of his dogs will sport e-collars when the tail gate drops.

So if a dog has a shock collar on he/she will run deer ?

Ever seen a rabbit cross a road and the dogs do the same ? All my dogs wear s/collars every time out , I have lost 1 due to a car and a rabbit crossing the road, I can stop them with a collar

[Bunnyblaster]

That's a shame about your gyp rabbitsmoker. I'd never even heard of that before you mentioned it here. I guess I will just have to say there is a lot less of a chance of any long lasting physical effects from the ecollar than from the pepper method then.


Runninhard, I would like to think that most people would agree there's a difference between "choosing" to use ecollars and "having" to use them. For safety and security I like to have them on..........even on a broke dog just like you. If after being shocked off of deer I still "have" to keep them on just in case..........well then my dogs aren't really broke are they.

[warddog]

Many folks believe that running rabbits to their death is cruel as well. I guess cruel is like pretty, in the eye of the beholder! I sure did think it cruel to find numerous hounds splattered in the middle of the road. I have since those olden days purchased a shock collar BUT if I had one that was good and hard to break I'd do whatever was neccessary to save it's life because if not broke from running deer it was going somewhere else and maybe heaven anyway.