pup not packing

wvhillbilly · Post by **wvhillbilly** » Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:27 pm

i have a 8 mo old pup that is running pretty good but doesnt want to hark to or pack with other dogs when they get in front of him he sticks to his own track regardless of other dogs should i worry about this or give it more time any help would be appreciated bev still havent got feb issues yet jonathan

Beagleman973 · Post by **Beagleman973** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:19 am

What do you mean sticks to his own track? If he's running the same track as the pack that's a good thing, you don't want him running the other dogs. It could be he just doesn't have the speed and power to keep up with them yet.

I have had pups that didn't start out packing well. I braced them with an older dog about their speed until they started running well with their bracemate, then added another hound, kept that up until he was packing with those two, add another hound, etc. I would brace for now until he ran well with that hound. If you keep trying to pack him at this point he could get to where he won't pack at all.

I don't think this is a serious problem. Just give him time.

wvhillbilly · Post by **wvhillbilly** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 6:16 pm

beagleman what i mean is that in a check he has to stay and work the track out on his own and when huhting with another dog if it strikes he will not go to it he just does his own thing thanks for your reply jonathan

AlabamaSwamper · Post by **AlabamaSwamper** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:39 am

He is still young so give him time. Do you kennel him with other dogs. If not, I would do this immediately. Next time you run them and he dont go to the dogs when they jump just leash him and drag him to them. I had to do this several times with a young male last year. He finally came around and was packing great until a car got him.

Bunnyseeker · Post by **Bunnyseeker** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:43 am

I agree with ALSWAMPER.

Hare Hunter · Post by **Hare Hunter** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 7:58 am

I have a young female that did about exactly what you are describing, she had a ton of hunt and could care less what the pack was doing. When she wouldn't hark in I put a leash on her and took her to where the pack was circling. At first she paid no heed just kept on trying to smell around on the leash, after a few circles she started to listen and soon wanted to go to them. I believe she just didn't know that the other dogs had the hare and she was looking for it no matter what they did. It took a few times of this method but she soon learned what the other dogs were doing, that was last fall, she has packed good all winter since. Just keep turning her in on the pack and she should catch on. Hare

Beagleman973 · Post by **Beagleman973** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:55 am

Jonathan,

I had a male a few years ago that was exactly like that. What you have in my opinion is a good independent hound that trusts his abilities and wants to do it on his own. I soloed mine quite a bit to get him better and quicker on picking up checks. He soon was picking the checks up as quick as the others in the pack. Then I packed him again and he still at first had to pick up the check himself, then started trusting the pack and harking to them.

Personally, I prefer a hound that wants to run the track himself, versus one that harks and just runs with the pack and never comes up with it himself. Most may not agree with me, but I don't think you have that big a problem. Solo him so he gets better running a line by himself, but keep packing him to. Use a 2 to 1 ratio, two solo, one time pack. I bet you before you know it he will start harking and honoring the pack.

To my way of thinking he's got a good amount of brains, and the reason right now he doesn't go to them right away is he doesn't smell the track coming off the track. I would try this first before dragging him off with a lease. He might interpret that to mean you don't want him to spend much time in the check area.

Give me a smart, independent hound over a "me-too" hound any day!!

John

FallsCreekKennels · Post by **FallsCreekKennels** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:35 pm

Personally I wouldn't drag the dog over.I would handle him, let him listen to the other dogs running, once he's heard them he will probably pack up on his own.

If not, handle him and praise him. then set him down right with the other dogs. Keep trying.