Let me get this straight

[2500 HD]

Let me get this straight......we're trying to pass a health care
plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't
understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts
themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also is exempt

from it and hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered
by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a

surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

I can see why there is no arguement here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[2500 HD]

More information:

THIS IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL




Subject: : Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - HB3200 highlighted pages most egregious

Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59



JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

"I have reviewed selected sections of the bill, and find
it unbelievable that our Congress, led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, could come up with a bill loaded with so many wrong-headed elements."

"Both Republicans and Democrats are equally responsible
for the financial mess of both Social Security and Medicare programs."

"I am opposed to HB 3200 for a number of reasons.

To start with, it is estimated that a federal bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new employees will be required to administer HB3200. That is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is already too intrusive in our lives. If we are going to hire 150,000 new employees, let's put them to
work protecting our borders, fighting the massive drug problem and putting more law enforcement/firefighters out there."


JUDGE KITHIL continued: "Other problems I have with
this bill include:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance
to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have
real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by
the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this
section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same
regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration
care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a
prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates
advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counceling.)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify
which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not
apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

Honorable David Kithil
Marble Falls , Texas

All of the above should give you the point blank
ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

[bluemouse]

Dont forget the 16000 new irs agents that will be hired to enforce fines.

[Bev]

[Pine Mt Beagles]

SOUND'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN =WE =GOT INTO TWO WAR'S=
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=AT LEAST THIS TIME IT WILL= SAVE LIVES= AND MONEY AND JOB'S==

[tommyg]

SOUND'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN =WE =GOT INTO TWO WAR'S=
=
=AT LEAST THIS TIME IT WILL= SAVE LIVES= AND MONEY AND JOB'S==

Dufus you have a directional problem.

[bluegrass]

SOUND'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN =WE =GOT INTO TWO WAR'S=
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=AT LEAST THIS TIME IT WILL= SAVE LIVES= AND MONEY AND JOB'S==

Yeah Jackass, and the moron YOU voted in to get us OUT of those wars hasn't done one dam.n thing to bring either one to a close, hell he even ESCALATED the war in AFGHANISTAN...but thats ok with you isnt it since its a lousy tarded democrud running the war huh Dufus??

Much like VIETNAM...Kennedy (democrat) got us into it, Lyndon Johnson (democrat) escalated it, Nixon (republican) brought the troops home, yet NIXON gets most of the blame from libtards.

[old blood beagles]

Much like VIETNAM...Kennedy (democrat) got us into it, Lyndon Johnson (democrat) escalated it, Nixon (republican) brought the troops home, yet NIXON gets most of the blame from libtards.

Kennedy (democrat) got us into it by standing up against communist, he also had a plan to bring our troops home within a year from his death.
Johnson (democrat) escalated the problem by taking the wrong advise from his military advisers.
Nixon (republican) did bring our troops home but he had other issues on his mind "do we need to bring up what he did"

[bluegrass]

Kennedy (democrat) got us into it by standing up against communist, he also had a plan to bring our troops home within a year from his death.
Johnson (democrat) escalated the problem by taking the wrong advise from his military advisers.
Nixon (republican) did bring our troops home but he had other issues on his mind "do we need to bring up what he did"



You see how the democrud mind works??? Its OK that Kennedy got us into it, its not his ACTIONS that count, its his INTENTIONS. Why? Because he was a democrud.

Johnson escalated it but its OK because he was just following bad advice (gee, wish Bush had gotten this pass but I digress)

Nixon DID bring our troops home, don't focus on HIS actions just focus on his OTHER ISSUES...


When talking about liberals its important to focus on their intentions. When you talk about conservatives its important to talk about their ACTIONS.

I think ACTIONS trump INTENTIONS...the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


Tony

[old blood beagles]

Tony, I am gald that you desided to bring up President Bush. You have never heard me bad mouth him. The war in Iraq needed to be and I supported him on that issue as a matter of fact I voted for him both times, that is right I voted for him both times! The only reason I put that post on there was to see what you was thinking, and it came to light. Dont give any credit to Kennedy for going against communist, and I never said anything bad about Johnson but you did and when I stated a fact about Nixon you just jumped on his side because he was a Rebulican. It just goes back to the same old thing; if they are democrats it dont matter what they have done for this country you will be against them.

[bluegrass]

Tony, I am gald that you desided to bring up President Bush. You have never heard me bad mouth him. The war in Iraq needed to be and I supported him on that issue as a matter of fact I voted for him both times, that is right I voted for him both times! The only reason I put that post on there was to see what you was thinking, and it came to light. Dont give any credit to Kennedy for going against communist, and I never said anything bad about Johnson but you did and when I stated a fact about Nixon you just jumped on his side because he was a Rebulican. It just goes back to the same old thing; if they are democrats it dont matter what they have done for this country you will be against them.

NO, you have things a bit wrong here...I would have and STILL DO support the efforts in VIETNAM...I was merely pointing out that there is a double standard where the two parties are concerned. I did not badmouth Kennedy for that, although I don't think he is the saint that a lot of people do, I agree with the effort to stem Communism...I am all for that wherever it happens in the world.

Lyndon Johnson LIED much the same that Obambi is now when he promised to bring the troops home...things CHANGED back then and he did what he thought he had to do in the war effort. Thats all well and good, but you cannot gloss over the FACT that he LIED about bringing troops home...thats the problem I have is that the lies get ignored.

Nixon had PLENTY of problems, yet his actions get ignored where bringing the troops home is concerned. I have a whole bunch of disagreements with the way the entire Vietnam war was conducted, but when you look at the ACTIONS of all three concerning the war, only NIXON brought the troops home, yet he didnt send them there in the first place, the previous two did.

Watergate notwithstanding, Obambi isnt a wart on the ass of Nixon when it comes to being a Statesman and a Leader. I didnt accuse you of saying anything bad about Bush...it was more of a blanket statement concerning the beatings he has gotten for the Iraq war. I also dont think I jumped to the aid of Nixon either...as I said he had PLENTY of problems of his own creation to deal with...I just dont think he got the credit deserved for following through with bringing our troops home from Vietnam. IF Obambi would bring troops home, not just recycle them from one theater to another, I would give him credit for that too...to date however he has NOT.


Tony

[Rabbithoundjb]

I hate to say it but you guys are doing exactly what the politicians want you to do, argueing about the past, the letter in front of somebodies name. While our country and our freedoms are being being hi-jacked by the government. I bet 90% of americans would NOT have believed that our government would have legalized companies moving millions of american jobs out of the country but they did. If you believe these power mongers aren't trying to gain more control over the citizens with this healthcare bill, your not paying attention. The majority, over 60%, more than voted for Obama oppose this bill yet I believe it is going to pass. They where all voted in by a majority and now they are ignoring the majority.

As far as this idea the dems are the only ones trying to do anything and the republicans are the party of no. This is what I think about that if you have 3 young dogs all running and 2 have less talent but the other runs deer everytime out and doesn't listen or respond to anything you do. I guess because he is the one trying to do more you should get rid of the other 2. Maybe you but not me.

If a bill especially of this magnitude can't stand on it's own merits without the shenanigans something is wrong. Anyone who can't see that is blind.