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What are your thoughts on being able to know what each of your hounds are doing in a pack just by listening to them run. Meaning you know if they are swinging, skirting, calling over the check, etc. Just with your hearing, would you make correction's off of what you are hearing. And can swinging, skirting , calling over the line be fixed while still being ran in a pack?

I can tell by listenening what mine are doing. if they get a check 50-100 yards away they prolly swung out and grabbed it. If they are the last one barking they are either behind or barking over the end. If they aint sayin nothing in a hard driving race they are probably trying to skirt or cut to the front any way possible.
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-U aint gonna fix swinging or skirting in a pack or solo. You may make it better while soloing and packing a little bit, but as soon as you put pressure of a hard going pack on a swinging dog he will go right back to swinging and skirting. Its in there blood to do it.

mike crabtree wrote:I can tell by listenening what mine are doing. if they get a check 50-100 yards away they prolly swung out and grabbed it. If they are the last one barking they are either behind or barking over the end. If they aint sayin nothing in a hard driving race they are probably trying to skirt or cut to the front any way possible.
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-U aint gonna fix swinging or skirting in a pack or solo. You may make it better while soloing and packing a little bit, but as soon as you put pressure of a hard going pack on a swinging dog he will go right back to swinging and skirting. Its in there blood to do it.

That's interesting. I was running my dogs last night with a friend and her dogs. My friend has some pretty smooth but fast out of the check females. I was running my 10 month old hound who's known for skirting and swinging to get to the front of the pack. There were times that I couldn't see the dogs but could hear all of them--except my 10 month old. I kept checking my Garmin and could see that she was right there with the pack. I bet anything she was cheating to get to the front those times I couldn't hear her....

She's a cheater, skirter, and swinger, but man can that dog drive a rabbit hard and fast. She's a blast to watch.

mike crabtree wrote:I can tell by listenening what mine are doing. if they get a check 50-100 yards away they prolly swung out and grabbed it. If they are the last one barking they are either behind or barking over the end. If they aint sayin nothing in a hard driving race they are probably trying to skirt or cut to the front any way possible.
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-U aint gonna fix swinging or skirting in a pack or solo. You may make it better while soloing and packing a little bit, but as soon as you put pressure of a hard going pack on a swinging dog he will go right back to swinging and skirting. Its in there blood to do it.

I agree with you Crabby 100%... If you know your pack and each dog in that pack you'll know when you've got a cheater the bunch and one that does it right... 100% yes you will never fix skirting and swinging!!!

I aint saying whats a good one or saying what somebody should run. I have some of both. My swingers do get on my nerves when the scenting aint there. But when running is good they make it hard on the others. To each his or her own. If you dont mind the swinging and skirting just smile and enjoy it. If you dont like it someone out there will.
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If it swings and skirts, but dont have the ahleticism so get back in when it guesses wrong then you have a problem .

Been times that I thought I could tell what was going on but seems like when I got where I could lay eyes on them that it wasn't the case at all.

I agree with mike. I can tell when one of my dogs is swinging or when one gets left.

Walls Kennel wrote:I agree with mike. I can tell when one of my dogs is swinging or when one gets left.

What/how far, do you consider swinging? I'm sure most of us can tell when one of our hounds gets left out of the check, or is falling behind...LOL

That's interesting. I was running my dogs last night with a friend and her dogs. My friend has some pretty smooth but fast out of the check females. I was running my 10 month old hound who's known for skirting and swinging to get to the front of the pack. There were times that I couldn't see the dogs but could hear all of them--except my 10 month old. I kept checking my Garmin and could see that she was right there with the pack. I bet anything she was cheating to get to the front those times I couldn't hear her....

She's a cheater, skirter, and swinger, but man can that dog drive a rabbit hard and fast. She's a blast to watch.

Haha Renea I read your post with a guys voice in mind looked at the screen name and seen it was you! You just wait that 10 month old won't b just 'with the pack' when she gets going real good she will be 50 yards ahead of the pack.
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