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SPEED w/control
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:47 pm
by outrider66
looking for that ! any opinions on where to get that stuff at ?
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:29 pm
by Lone Pine Beagles
You have to sacrifice one for the other.
I really like the stuff out of FC Kickem up Kane.
My Banjo dog is out of Kane and has 3 Progressive Pack wins and placed twice in Large Pack on Hare.
Now that's versatility!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:00 pm
by kellyg
ifc blazer II has that. just ask anyone that has competed with him
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:25 am
by BCBeagles
get a pup off of FC Southwoods Cyclone....Jake Richards or talk to Jake, he has good dogs, knows good dogs.
Quickest dogs I have seen that KNOW where the point of loss truly is, not just an area.....Good luck!!!!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:10 am
by mn_beagleboy
Greenbay or huntemup in new york. Speed, control, nose, brain, n hunt.
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:39 am
by Smoke'n Mack
Just from personal experience, Spotty Beast. I own, or have ran with 6 of his pups, and they all have foot to spare and know where the track is.
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:44 am
by Casey Harner
Hitman blood. Lock on and roll
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:32 am
by Shady Grove Beagles
Brian
That female I got out of Statin's Blue Samurai and your Blue Belle II female seems to have it.
Ran her this morning in the pouring rain and she was flat out pounding that rabbit.Saw the rabbit several times and intentionally turned it to create a check and she was slamming on the brakes,snapped back and would grab it and fire out of there.Pretty impressive for a dog not yet a year old.
I'm really liking her alot and she seems to have nose to spare and really spits them out when she locks on.
Dana
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:51 am
by BCBeagles
You are running cotton tails correct? Boy, in just this post alone the control and speed opinions vary greatly.........
Go watch dogs run, if you are seeing the foot and not the point of loss work.....look more.....foot is easy to find.....control, true control........much, much harder! Both together....well.....they are just rare.
My opinion, I have only seen really fast dogs look good on good rabbits, one that want to stretch out and run straight. Take a dodging diving rabbit and evaluate the same dog.....you may not see the control you are looking for.
Take a medium to upper medium hound with true point of loss work. They sure wont foot up with the burners on the long runs, may not get left behind either, but them on most cottontails, which normally duck and dodge, will hang pretty tight on one.
I am always looking for fast, close, controlled, extreme hunt, walk it out, drive it to death..........still looking...have a couple nice ones......but still looking....lol.
Good luck! Welcome anytime in Farmington WV to evaluate ANY and ALL hounds I have......take care!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:51 pm
by transman63
ifc cedar beck blazer ll, ifc Oliver. ajs charley harper. ajs hammer time. fast ass they come and the best control you will find '' I guaranty THAT '' you don't believe it come to my house and see for your self
Charlie is a off sping of oliver. hamer is a off sping of blazer ll.
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:02 pm
by NorthBranch Rummer
BCBeagles wrote:You are running cotton tails correct? Boy, in just this post alone the control and speed opinions vary greatly.........
Go watch dogs run, if you are seeing the foot and not the point of loss work.....look more.....foot is easy to find.....control, true control........much, much harder! Both together....well.....they are just rare.
My opinion, I have only seen really fast dogs look good on good rabbits, one that want to stretch out and run straight. Take a dodging diving rabbit and evaluate the same dog.....you may not see the control you are looking for.
Take a medium to upper medium hound with true point of loss work. They sure wont foot up with the burners on the long runs, may not get left behind either, but them on most cottontails, which normally duck and dodge, will hang pretty tight on one.
I am always looking for fast, close, controlled, extreme hunt, walk it out, drive it to death..........still looking...have a couple nice ones......but still looking....lol.
Good luck! Welcome anytime in Farmington WV to evaluate ANY and ALL hounds I have......take care!
No matter what end of the spectrum your on, that's pretty well said Jim!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:31 pm
by pcable
Awful Bawlin. Striker x Shaker!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:54 pm
by east80kennels
pcable wrote:Awful Bawlin. Striker x Shaker!
i second that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:06 am
by walkerdogman85
BCBeagles wrote:You are running cotton tails correct? Boy, in just this post alone the control and speed opinions vary greatly.........
Go watch dogs run, if you are seeing the foot and not the point of loss work.....look more.....foot is easy to find.....control, true control........much, much harder! Both together....well.....they are just rare.
My opinion, I have only seen really fast dogs look good on good rabbits, one that want to stretch out and run straight. Take a dodging diving rabbit and evaluate the same dog.....you may not see the control you are looking for.
Take a medium to upper medium hound with true point of loss work. They sure wont foot up with the burners on the long runs, may not get left behind either, but them on most cottontails, which normally duck and dodge, will hang pretty tight on one.
I am always looking for fast, close, controlled, extreme hunt, walk it out, drive it to death..........still looking...have a couple nice ones......but still looking....lol.
Good luck! Welcome anytime in Farmington WV to evaluate ANY and ALL hounds I have......take care!
Re: SPEED w/control
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:57 pm
by ANTHONY KERR
pcable wrote:Awful Bawlin. Striker x Shaker!
Agreed ! Even better with a touch of Buzzsaw on the top side