Proposed Rule Changes in NKC Little pAck

Catfish · Post by **Catfish** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:42 pm

Here is my two cents. How many times have we came back from a cast and said that there was a lot of short checks. I know there has been times myself and other judges has said, the really good dog didn't win because the dog was finding the track before the 15 seconds was up.

There shouldn't be a time limit, and to say well we will miss a lot of checks, we do now, and it is 15 seconds, and there is times we can't give a check, because the dog found the track in less than 15 seconds.

Do away with the time limit, and it will save some people from saying that one judge is giving to many short check and cheating the other dogs.

Catfish:

town hound · Post by **town hound** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:15 pm

My opinion, what ever the clubs decide i will continue to run and support little pack. if certification is what the clubs want so be it. No time limit on checks if thats what the clubs want, then i wont need to use the stop watch as often. As long as its decided with a honest vote by the clubs and not a situation where a few big shots haven't been doing as well as they thought they should, so now were changing the rules. Over 600 dogs at the world hunt would lead me to believe little pack is currently doing things right. If change is necessary for the good of little pack, then maybe the world hunt will be even bigger next year, as long as it is done by an honest vote. We are all well aware of what happened to progresive pack when there was supposed to be an honest vote.

L.J. McKenzie · Post by **L.J. McKenzie** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:40 pm

the way i understand it you are now aloud to run dogs under different numbers. if you handle a dog for a friend and handle your own dog in the same cast and you put the wrong collar on the wrong dog and the dogs are scored wrong its ok. dog 1 red dog 2 green and you put green on 1 and red on 2 the dogs are good to go no disqualification.

RED BRUSH KENNELS · Post by **RED BRUSH KENNELS** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:02 pm

WELL,THERE WAS NOTHING THAT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A NUMBER.THE RULE JUST SAID THAT THE DOG HAD TO RUN IN THE CAST THAT IT WAS DRAWN OR BE SCRATCHED.DEL MORGAN CHANGED THIS RULE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE IRONTON CLUB.THE RULE NOW READS "A DOG MUST RUN IN THE CAST THAT IT IS DRAWN AND WITH THE NUMBER THAT THE CLUB GIVES IT OR IT WILL BE SCRATCHED"THIS WAS NOT VOTED ON IT WAS JUST CHANGED TO CLEAR UP THE RULE AFTER WHAT HAPPENED.

CPC · Post by **CPC** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:15 pm

I think the 15 sec check rule was introduced because of cheating. A judge can check his favorite dog more often if no time is put on checks. This is another example of why rules are made, if everyone were honest then no rules would be needed. Just turn loose and let the judge ddecide however in reality this cannot happen because of the dishonest judges, "not all judges." Rules will not stop cheating but it will slow they will slow it down. If the time is lifted from the checks I think we will see and hear of more dishonesty. Just my opinion

JIMMIE ABSHIRE · Post by **JIMMIE ABSHIRE** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:31 am

town hound wrote:My opinion, what ever the clubs decide i will continue to run and support little pack. if certification is what the clubs want so be it. No time limit on checks if thats what the clubs want, then i wont need to use the stop watch as often. As long as its decided with a honest vote by the clubs and not a situation where a few big shots haven't been doing as well as they thought they should, so now were changing the rules. Over 600 dogs at the world hunt would lead me to believe little pack is currently doing things right. If change is necessary for the good of little pack, then maybe the world hunt will be even bigger next year, as long as it is done by an honest vote. We are all well aware of what happened to progresive pack when there was supposed to be an honest vote.

Very Well said

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:36 am

yep cant argue with that much at all !

waterboy1831 · Post by **waterboy1831** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:57 pm

the only one i think they need to change is how the dog makes a ch the pp has it right so lp should do the same but the rest make sence but there dont seem to be a real problem so leave them alone

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:49 am

We dont even have a State Rep in VA. Who will do the certification?

Lynn Perkins · Post by **Lynn Perkins** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:39 am

mike crabtree wrote:We dont even have a State Rep in VA. Who will do the certification?

Didnt' pass anyway!And from what i have been told most changes proposed didnt get voted in,only a few changes will take place and nothing drastic at that.

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:08 pm

well can anybody say what did get changed??

TurnLeftBeagles · Post by **TurnLeftBeagles** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:35 pm

I was there don't have the info in front of me, it's at home. I can post the changes when I get around to it later this evening or tommorow. I'm just curious though after 10 pages of arguing and bitching, how many of you belong to a club that was represented at the meeting????

Either way by mail in votes or representation.

PREACHERS KENNEL · Post by **PREACHERS KENNEL** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:54 pm

well i think we had a couple there from our area

Collins Country · Post by **Collins Country** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:37 pm

OUR CLUB SENT IN THE PROXY PACKET.

Chris Shoopman · Post by **Chris Shoopman** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:24 pm

my club was there i was in there in person my self.....casey co beagle club, .....sure would of liked to saw more of the ky clubs there

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