Treating puppies for Coccidiosis

Keystone Kid · Post by **Keystone Kid** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:59 am

I’ve used “Albon 5%” prescribed by a vet for many years to treat coccidiosis in pups. I’ve heard there is a generic of Albon. Does anyone know the name?

I’ve also been told Albon 12.5% for cattle can be used of pups. Does anyone know the dilution rate?

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:22 am

This site http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beagleh ... diosis.htm has directions on how to make your own but, unless you are treating a lot of dogs I would just go with the 5% suspension. The homemade stuff is very very bitter and I find its just easier to give them something they like rather than fight them. I ask my vet for an RX and buy it online. 1 pint for about 52.00

Leah

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:18 am

Suspenion is fine but very expensive and you must administer every day for bout 7 days. Don't forget to double up on the first dose.

Get a gallon of sulfadimethoxine 12.5% solution. Mix 1 tablespoon per gallon of water or 1 oz per two gallons. Use this for their water and ya don't have to worry about it. It is $50 per gallon in Revival. The gallon will last ya forever. Same stuff used for chickens, turkeys, and cattle. You can also get Corrid which contains amprolium but I have never used it and don't know the price. Both of these are used to treat and prevent coccidiosis.

Keystone Kid · Post by **Keystone Kid** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:53 am

I spoke with several veterinarians that I'm friends with. One specifically read from pharmaceutical textbook how to mix & make “Albon 5%" (Sulfadimethoxine 5%). There are two ingredients involved. One is Omega 3 and the other is Albon 12.5 % or the generic for Albon “Sulfadimethoxine”. Just to let some of you know who’s interested, “Di-Methox” is short or a nickname for Sulfadimethoxine.

Here is the mixing ratio:

1) 5 ounces of Omega 3
2) 4 ounces of Sulfadimethoxine 12.5%

For your information the shelf life after it’s mixed is not real long. So don’t mix more than you need at a given time (30 to 60 days). Also shack it well every time you use it.

I’ve got a gallon of Omega 3, and a gallon of Sulfadimethoxine 12.5% on the way to my home. It should be here by the fist of the week. So if anyone lives near Marion Indiana that want to split this up let me know.

I can get 1 gallon of Omega 3 for $39.00, and a gallon of Sulfadimethoxine 12.5% for $38.95 + shipping & handling.

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:58 am

Great, Jim. So how do you administer the solution that you mix up. What is the purpose for the omega 3??? The Sulfadimethoxine is what kills the bacteria or slows it down from reproducing so the pup can build up an immunity. Give us some more info my friend so I can write it down.

Thanks, Jim.

Keystone Kid · Post by **Keystone Kid** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:28 pm

“Omega 3” is a “healthy way” to dilute Di-Methox. I’ve also been told Di-Methox is very bitter tasting to puppies, and Omega 3 sweetens it up which makes it more “palatable” to puppies.

After it’s mixed “the way I previously described” you administer it in the exactly same dosages as Albon 5%, and quantity given is 2.5cc per 5lbs of body weight.

You can get a both ingredients: gallon of Omega 3 for $39.00, and a gallon of Sulfadimethoxine 12.5% for $38.95 + shipping & handling from Lambriar Vet Supplies 800-344-6337. Ask for Rochelle, and tell her I (James Heasley) told you to call.

DarrinG · Post by **DarrinG** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:31 pm

oakhill wrote:Get a gallon of sulfadimethoxine 12.5% solution. Mix 1 tablespoon per gallon of water or 1 oz per two gallons. Use this for their water and ya don't have to worry about it.

Exactly what I used to use. Just put the proper amount in their water bowl and wala, you dont have to worry with it....and it works.

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:38 pm

Exactly. Just what I have been telling em. I would use the suspension if I have pups that were younger than 3 wks but for the older ones I always put this in the drinking water. An ounce of prevention is worth a lb of cure.

I always feed my milking dam pup chow soaked in water a couple times a day to keep her milk up. By 4 wks the pups are eating pup chow soaked in water.

warddog · Post by **warddog** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:53 pm

Same way you treat game cocks, just put into their drinking water to keep them medicated.

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:17 pm

By the way, I never reuse a food dish that I use on my pups without washing it thoroughly first. The first thing a pup will do after the feed is gone and sometimes before it is gone is crawl in and use the bathroom. This disease is spread thru the feces. Every food dish after the pups have eaten is taken out and washed good with hot soapy water and then run thru the dishwasher before I use it again to feed them. From some souces that I have read the only thing that will kill cocci is boiling water. You would think bleach would kill it though. Just thought I would throw that in.

S.R.Patch · Post by **S.R.Patch** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:39 pm

Maybe just lucky but I've never had or seen pups with coccidia younger than 7-8 weeks old, seems as long as they were nursing and not under the stress after weaning, they were ok, also, never had coccidia in winter, always in the heat humid of summer. Also not had coccidia since putting clay base oil dry in dog house pups live in, seems to aid keep the box dry and pups healthy, coccidia can't live in the dry environment...just my experience

Larry G · Post by **Larry G** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:20 pm

Been told that Safeguard (10% fenbendazole) at about the same rate as for worming, that is about 5-6 cc for a beagle, 3 days running, would cure cocci in adults. Anyone tried it?

S.R.Patch · Post by **S.R.Patch** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:29 pm

No, but I've kept pups alive with Valbazen at 1/2cc per pup/per day while it ran it's course...took a couple weeks...

Heard kennel cough is going around in the packs over in England, tough time to have the cough...

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:49 pm

Larry G wrote:Been told that Safeguard (10% fenbendazole) at about the same rate as for worming, that is about 5-6 cc for a beagle, 3 days running, would cure cocci in adults. Anyone tried it?

I have not heard of Fenbendazole for it but, it may work. My adults rarely show signs of it but, I believe that my bitches especially are carriers. Just like a bitch will carry worms that become active during pregnancy and pass through to the puppies I believe that bitches carry cocci too. I start my puppies on a 10 day dose of albon at weaning time because it is such a stressful time. After that I just watch them for any signs of it and I generally send a syringe home with new owners just in case the stress of the new home brings it back. I tried mixing the home made stuff once and its so bitter and nasty and such a fight to give that I just went back to the suspension. Isn't it interesting they can make it taste good for SOOO much more money!! LOL

Leah

Post by **Aaron Bartlett** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:08 pm

I was always told by the old timers that Coccidiosis stays in the ground forever. Do you guys and gals keep your dogs on the ground, on concrete or do you keep them off the ground? All my dogs are kept off the ground and I have never had problems with Coccidiosis. *knocks on wood*.