now how do we dig out

[TC]

I keep remembering the Oil Co's saying, "a recession in the US will not affect us one bit, other Countries still want our oil and will pay for it". Now Gas refineries have slowed production looking forward to the summer season to boost gas prices on supply, while the Country lies bloated with oil reserves. Is there no end to the greed? The traders in the market are already looking to annalist for futures and commodities to run up. There are to many people trying to make money on trading paper, rather than actually working & producing something. The market is so rigged, puts, calls, options, the shorts are borrowing and bleeding out the market on this disaster of events. How can anyone call themselves an American an short the companies into BK.
Damage control and time, the wave of the cycle will pass, lessons will be learnt, order will be restored and we will come to understand why our grandparents thought the way they did.
We used to have a smokehouse and cellar, I remember going down for potatoes, green beans for mom and a jar of canned beets for dad. Yup, the garden will be in high fashion this year.
Remember the song that said sumthun like, "corn don't grow where the weeds grow tall"? Seems to me that's just what were need'n, a good weed'n...

Worth Repeating
Obama can talk Thats For Sure.......

[Tim H]

I JUST WATCHED PRESIDENT OBAMA GIVE HIS FIRST ADDRESS TO THE HOUSE,IT WAS SO REFREHHING TO WATCH A MAN FIRST OF ALL WHO COULD SPEAK ENGLISH,WAS NOT SO INTOXICATED TO THE POINT , HE HAD TO HOLD ONTO THE PODEIUM. TO KEEP FROM FALLING,AND ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD, EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE NEED FOR JOBS ,HEALTH CARE,EDUCATION, GETTING OUT OF IRAQ,GREEN ENERGY ACCOUNTABILITY,MAKING THE BANKS SHOW WHERE OUR MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING,SOMETHING WE HAVE NEVER HAD BEFORE AND EXPLAINED VERY WELL HOW IT WOULD BE DONE ,HE ADRESSED THE NEEDS OF SMALL BUSINESS AND HOW TO HELP THEM, AND DID NOT JUST TALK,ABOUT TAX CUTS FOR HIS ELIETE FRIENDS.,AS THE WORLD WATCHED THIS SPEACH I'M SURE THEY FELT AMERICA WAS HEADED BACK FROM THE DARKNESS WE HAVE BEEN IN ,FOR SO LONG ,AND WOULD ONCE AGAIN BE A SUPER POWER TO LEAD THE WORLD,

Keep tapping your red slippers.

Obama loves to talk and CNN loves to talk about Obama talking but as Pike Ridge said, let's look at his actions. So far he has set terrorists free and spent money on pork. He has another bill coming to him with 8000 earmarks that he will sign after he promised no earmarks. See how he says one thing and does another. That's why his speeches, while "refreshing" don't really convey any confidence in the market which is where real life is lived.

[zambron]

god returning

[tommyg]

Pine Mtn better stay off the sauce sounds like a drunk man trying to watch TV. America is headed somewhere-down under Obama. I would say if Obama's gamble on spending don't work which History has proven it don't he'll be a 4 year President like Carter,then the Republicans will have to clean up another Liberal mess. Obama loves his kinsmen thats why he is closeing Gitmo and letting them go free. I can't belive that there are people living under this nation's cloak of freedom that will condone such treasonist actions.

[beaglechase]

he maybe a 4 year president, but he will still outscore that liberal Bush , in the ratings, there are a lot of liberal republicans , like there are some liberal democrats, just differ where they want to spend the taxpayers money, at least Obama wants to leave the money in the good ol usa, to the poor and middleclass not the rich and those who suck up to-em. wall street, bankers, and such see the handwriting on the wall. no more of this trickle down bs.

[2500 HD]

he maybe a 4 year president, but he will still outscore that liberal Bush , in the ratings

Stand up and brush off your knees there buddy!!!!!!!! Obama hasn't done anything for us yet but dig a bigger hole. 3 years 10 3/4 months to go, so when Jan. 2013 flips by the calander, then you can praise or hate him like you do with Bush!!!!!

[bluegrass]

Thats it beaglechase, its a popularity contest isnt it...nevermind what happens to the USA, nope, just beat BUSH...in case you didnt know, BUSH WASNT RUNNING...just thought you might need reminding.



Something the democruds need to keep in mind, and even some of you republicans, Obama doesnt have the best interests of the US in mind, and he doesnt care if his policies do any good at all...remember that whatever is good for the US is bad for Democrats, has always been that way. If the economy is good, Democrats cannot get elected...if the war is going well Democrats cannot get elected, etc. His ONLY goal is to firmly entrench the Socialist agenda of the Democrat party into the fabric of the US....his intention is to make sure that there is absolutely NO opposition to his desires, no chance for any other party to ever have a say in how things are done. Thats why he is spending like GW BUSH never did...he has taken a page out of Donald Trumps playbook....get so far in debt that no one can afford to call the notes due. Thanks to all the so called useful idiots in the press no one will really know the extent of the damage that will be done to the US...he HAS brought change to this country...we CHANGED from a free society to one beholden to the US GOVERNMENT for almost everything, and has done it almost overnight....good grief we are in trouble.



Tony

[beaglechase]

and if he gets it moving, you won't even apologise, will you? you will continuely sit back in your elephant suit and critisize no matter what good he may do..typical republican!!!!! you wouldn't agree with a democrat, if h#ll froze over,,,and I bet you would like to hang the three, that didn't stay with the coup..?

[2500 HD]

I don't agree with a politician that takes my hard earned Tax dollars and hands them over to some one in line waiting for a hand out!!!!!!!!! Democrat Or Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get passed the party issue and pay attention to what POLITICIANS are doing to our country. WORK HARD, PAY YOUR TAXES, SOMEONE ON WELFARE OR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DEPNDS ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bluegrass]

you wouldn't agree with a democrat, if h#ll froze over,,,and I bet you would like to hang the three, that didn't stay with the coup..?




Actually you are wrong, as usual. There are some Democrats that I believe have good ideas and I agree with some of those ideas at times...but as before, you put the PARTY in place of the IDEOLOGY...they are equal to you, as a liberal that you are. I do NOT put the Republican party on equal footing with Conservative IDEOLOGY...my convictions and beliefs come well before the party does. Not so with Dems. But the key point you made was that HELL would have to freeze over...if you substituted LIBERAL in place of DEMOCRAT I would have to agree. As for the three that voted with the Libs in the Senate, I dont advocate hanging them....I DO advocate voting them out of office though. They are NOT Conservative at all, therefore they should go, in my opinion.



Tony

[tommyg]

and if he gets it moving, you won't even apologise, will you? you will continuely sit back in your elephant suit and critisize no matter what good he may do..typical republican!!!!! you wouldn't agree with a democrat, if h#ll froze over,,,and I bet you would like to hang the three, that didn't stay with the coup..?

What a JOKE with him to the bitter end. How could anyone in theur right mind be with him. He is spending the US into a 3rd world country. Why are you so blinded to it? Just a Republican hater? By the way the JACKASS suit fits you well beaglechase.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Obama loves his kinsmen thats why he is closeing Gitmo and letting them go free. I can't belive that there are people living under this nation's cloak of freedom that will condone such treasonist actions.


What a JOKE with him to the bitter end. How could anyone in theur right mind be with him. He is spending the US into a 3rd world country. Why are you so blinded to it? Just a Republican hater? By the way the JACKASS suit fits you well beaglechase.
THAT CRAP IS GETTING OLD,YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY ANY THING YOU WANT,AND I WILL DEFEND THAT RIGHT TO DEATH, IF NEED BE AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS A REPUBLICAN BOARD,THAT DON'T MEAN EVERY THING SAID, ON HERE IS GOSPEL---!!!!!!!!!!!!
TIM H.
BLUEGRASS AND 2500 HD AND MYSELF ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION MOSTLY ON THE ECONOMY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AND WE TRY TO STAY AT LEAST CIVIL.BUT--THIS .ANTI AMERICA ,ANTI DEMOCRAT,CALLING PEOPLE ,REPUBLICAN HATER,JACKASS,PEOPLE WHO CONDON TREASON,,IS DONE GOT OLD,MAN GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR $#%@ AND WAKE UP GET IN THE REAL WORLD,,,,,,,,,,,,
BUSH --AND --CHANEY--- SPENT US INTO THIS MESS, AND STARTED GITMO, AND HAS ALREADY LET PEOPLE,OUT OF GITMO HIS SELF----AND STARTED SPYING ON PRIVATE CITIZENS ,ANY THING HE COULD DO AGAINST AMERICA HE DID,WE SUFFERED THROUGH THIS TRAITOR FOR EIGHT LONG YEARS,HIS LYING ,SPYING ,SENDING OUR TROOPS OFF TO SLAUGHTER. THEN YOU TALK ABOUT A MAN THAT HAS IN EVERY WAY TRIED TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND HELP NOT JUST RICH AMERICA BUT ALL OF AMERICA.AND IS SHOWING NOT JUST WHY BUT, HOW 'AND ALSO HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABILE,SOME THING WE HAVEN'T HAD IN SOME TIME,
RUFUS

[Rabbithoundjb]

Pine mt Bush and Cheney didn't spend us into this mess and you guys can't post without taking a shot at Bush and then talk about us being critical of the democrats and who has Obama held accountable,oh maybe Gietner who he kept in his cabinet with his tax problems (not paying them until he found out he was getting this position)or all of his other picks with issues. Just who has he brought to justice for taking advantage of the american people. Maybe you need to wake up and get in the real world and how were your rights affected by Bush and I don't want an open ended statement, what did Bush do to you. None of the conservatives on this board have denied Bush being a liberal spender but thats not the reason the economy collapsed, the banking industry and the effects it had on cash flow is what crashed the economy.

I'M so tired of hearing about the war is that all you got, apparently it is and if you go back to Clintons 1996 speech after winning the election he warned america about Sadaams wmd past and future. Bush just had enough guts to put a stop to Sadaams shananigens. Obama has been running for President for how long, ah 2 years and won almost 4 months ago and what is his plan. He has no plan lets just throw money at the problem and hope it fixes it and Bush being a liberal spender doesn't make it O.K. for Obama to do the same thing. What kind of change is that.

This is what you guys sound like: Bush spent us into the depts of h--- and you are all in for Obama to even spend more and thats O.K. NO wrong is wrong no matter which party it is period.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY IT SO SOME MIGHT UNDERSTANT, IS GEORGE W.BUSH IS THE WORST ENEMY AMERICA HAS HAD IN SEVERAL YEARS.AND THE REPUS'S,HAVE PUT THEIR HEAD IN SOMETHING' I HOPE IT IS THE SAND ,AND CHOOSEN TO INGORE IT .WE WILL BE PAYING FOR HIS LUDICRIS BEHAVIOR FOR GENERATIONS, AND THE REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS, ARE JUST AS BAD OR WORSE, IF IT WASN'T FOR THEIR, STAND ON GUN CONTROL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.THEY ARE USELESS.JUST TAKING TAX DOLLARS AND NOT PRODUCING ANYTHING,THAT IS THE REPUS'S.WAY,AND STONE WALL ANY ONE WHO TRIES TO DO ANY THING,GOOD' FOR AMERICA.AND BY THE WAY LOOK AT INSURANCE PREMIMUMS AND COLLEGE TUITION,HEALTH CARE COST'S OUT THE ROOF YEA -W-HAS REALLY HELPED AMERICA..,WE HAVE LOST 6 SCHOOLS HERE BECAUSE IRAQ' NEEDED OUR MONEY.AND BLOOD,AS LONG AS THEIR'S HISTORY BOOKS, BUSH WILL OWN HIS WAR.AND THIS ECONOMIC FAILURE.........OH DON'T FORGET HOW BUSH AND HIS SAUDI FAMILY RAPED THE U.S. WITH GAS PRICES.......I GUESS I'AM JUST ONE OF THE 65% OR SO THAT THINK IT MIGHT WORK OUT.---HEY THERE IS ALWAY'S 2012..AND PALIN,,, SORRY I FORGOT BUSH HAD SO MUCH GUTS AND THAT IS WHY HE WAS ABSENT WITHOUT LEAVE, FOR MOST OF HIS CUSHY JOB HIS DAD BOUGHT HIM IN THE NATIONAL GUARD,GUT'S MY BUTT,,,,,,,,

RUFUS

[Rabbithoundjb]

And I guess those same cost dropped under Clinton get real. If you go to the post on this site from the story 60 minutes did on the oil prices you will be enlightened again on who was responsible the rising costs. Bill Clinton in 2000 deregulated the investment requirements for futures thus allowing investors/speculators to drive the price up again another false accusation against Bush coming from your mouth. Just as Clinton deregulated the lending requirements that caused the banking industry to collapse. Stop spewing your opinion and go get some facts. I guess W signed NAFTA into law too, exporting millions of jobs out of the country. Here is another fact that came out when Clinton had to release his finances for Hillary to become SOS, he earned 5.5 million in either 07or 08 for speaking engagements and 4.6 million of it was in foreign countries, I GUESS HE IS STILL BEING PAID FOR SELLING US OUT.

I didn't see you identify anyone Obama has made accountable for anything, just as I expected more rethoric with no substance.