now how do we dig out

[beaglechase]

I'm with the president on this, don't bring up the failed policies of the past," Republican rule" and whatever they did do the opposite.....look at the deficit 11.3 trillion, for failed policies, and giving it to the rich....so far all the republicans have stated is don't d o like Obama do....Prosperity for the middle class in 4yrs. roads, bridges health care, green energy, oil independence, industries reinvesting in America, banks and finance regulated, still have our 1st and 2nd admendments intac
BEAGLE CHASE --YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER YOU ARE TALKING TO REPUBLICANS,,,IF YOU ARE NOT GIVING THEM TAX BREAKS ,OR TAKING,MONEY FROM SOCIAL SECURITY ,OR HEALTH CARE OR EDUCATION,AND GIVING TO THEM,YOU ARE EVIL THE SCUM OF THE EARTH .AND THEY DON'T HEAR A THING YOU SAID,AND WILL NOT HEAR ANYTHING YOU SAY TOMORROW EITHER.I HAVE HEARD THE SAME B.S. FOR 30 YRS,THAT'S ABOUT HOW LONG I HAVE KEPT UP WITH POLITICS..REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOUCH WITH AMERICA SINCE BEFORE REGAN-OR BETTER KNOWN AS THE UNION BUSTER GOT IN,,,,,,,,

Pine Mountain, lets call a spade a spade here and let me ask a question...are you receiving a government check? It seems as though you are since you so vehemently defend those in office that graciously want to buy votes with entitlement programs like welfare, food stamps, SS for illegals, etc...

What YOU have to remember there high and mighty, is that YOU are not talking to Republicans so much as you are CONSERVATIVES...again there is a difference for us, not so much for libtards and democruds...yes I called liberals names, waaaaaaaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaaa. Taking money from Social Security??? I honestly dont know whether you believe what you spout or if you are just incapable of any other viewpoint than the MSNBC line...REAGAN, not REGAN (how darn hard is it to spell his name?) busted ONE UNION, the Air Traffic Controllers...their strike was ILLEGAL anyway, but you dont seem to care about LAW there because it doesnt fit either your ideology or your revisionist view of history....he didnt bust the UAW, AFL-CIO, IBEW, etc....just the Air Traffic Controllers...WHO WERE ON STRIKE ILLEGALLY!!!! Why cant libtards remember that?? Plus its not like he fired them at midnight with no warning, he gave them EVERY OPPORTUNITY to return to work, which some did, and the ones that did NOT were fired and replaced, which they should have been. You guys want your cake and a paid for room to eat it in too I guess...you want ALL the goodies that Obambi is promising, while MY KIDS are going to have to pay for it, yet you THINK he is gonna let your guns stay in your hands, not mess with YOUR hunting, and protect America while at the same time cutting the defense budget.
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Here is the bottom line liberals...I dont want to pay for your welfare, in any form. I dont want to pay for your liberal social programs, I dont want to pay for your food stamps, I dont want to pay for your mortgage, and I for DA MN sure dont want my KIDS to have to pay for it....stop being sponges and leeches and quit looking to almighty government for the answers to your pathetic lives.

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George W Bush is FAR from the best president we ever had...but he is also just as far away from the WORST we ever had, which was Carter and history bears this out...Clinton should be in prison for his crimes, some of which he was actually charged with...if you can get your heads out of Obambi's arse long enough remember that Clinton WAS impeached. Only the 2nd president to ever be impeached. Clinton lied under oath and was disbarred...he can NEVER argue in front of the Supreme Court again (he is a lawyer you know). Clinton would have been an abject failure if not for a CONSERVATIVE Congress coming in after the 94 elections...

Pine Mountain, keep drinking that kool aid....I am sure someone else is paying for it.
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Tony

bluegrass you are so judgemental of others, you should read the bible on this.....since you brought up Clinton, what was he convicted of, what was his punishment, where are you getting your information?

[bluegrass]

I should read the Bible on being judgemental huh...I suppose you mean that old mis quoted verse about "judge not lest ye be judged also", right?? That is NOT what the Bible means about judgement, and we ARE commanded to judge right from wrong, which is what I believe I was doing.

As for Clinton, he was found guilty of lying under oath and was barred by the Supreme Court from ever arguing in front of their court again...if you dont believe me, do your own research. He was IMPEACHED by the House but the Senate didnt have any balls so they didnt vote to remove. Simple history.



Tony

[beaglechase]

I should read the Bible on being judgemental huh...I suppose you mean that old mis quoted verse about "judge not lest ye be judged also", right?? That is NOT what the Bible means about judgement, and we ARE commanded to judge right from wrong, which is what I believe I was doing.

As for Clinton, he was found guilty of lying under oath and was barred by the Supreme Court from ever arguing in front of their court again...if you dont believe me, do your own research. He was IMPEACHED by the House but the Senate didnt have any balls so they didnt vote to remove. Simple history.



Tony

supose republicans don't lie? impeached by the house but not the senate, doesn't that seem odd to you, which had the largest amount of republicans at the time? and what does that judgemental verse mean to you?

[bluegrass]

Once again you have NO idea what you are talking about....the Senate does NOT impeach, they vote to remove...the HOUSE impeaches, and Clinton WAS impeached...as for the senate not voting to remove Clinton, I had a real problem with that...your feeble comeback made me laugh.


As for not judging, Paul said "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more then the things of this world..."


You dont really want to get into a religious discussion with me, given your obvious lack of understanding and education of it.




Tony

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Don't exploit the common man to the maximum, and he will defend the order which allows the rich to remain rich...
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SO LONG I DON'T THINK,IT WILL EVER STOP

.Pine Mountain, lets call a spade a spade here and let me ask a question...are you receiving a government check? It seems as though you are since you so vehemently defend those in office that graciously want to buy votes with entitlement programs like welfare, food stamps, SS for illegals, etc...

BLUEGRASS--GOOD OLE SELF RIGHTEOUS,ARROGANT ,BLUEGRASS---I GET FOOD STAMPS ,PUBLIC HOUSING,HEATING ASSISTANCE,FREE HEALTH CARE ETC......WELL--ACTUALLY I DON'T,,BUT WHAT IF I DID,I KNOW PEOPLE WHO DO,I'M SURE YOU DON'T,BEING AS ARROGANT AS YOU ARE YOU WOULD NOT WASTE YOUR TIME TALKING TO THEM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THEIR OPINION MEANS JUST AS MUCH AS YOURS,THEY HAVE ONE VOTE SAME AS YOU ,I KNOW YOU THINK 5% OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE 95% OF THE MONEY ,AND THE REST BEG FOR HAND OUTS. I HAVE STUDIED PHYCOLOGY MOST OF MY LIFE YET PEOPLE CAN STILL SUPRISE ME. PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER BARREN AND THINK ONLY THEIR OPINION SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.....
AND I DO MAKE SOME MISTAKES IN SPELLING I HAVE TWO NUMB FINGERS ON EACH HAND,I HOPE THAT DON'T WORRY YOU TO BAD,

AND I HAVE ALWAY'S BEEN AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ,AND AGAINST GUN CONTROL.AND DON'T LIKE ABORTION EITHER..
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE LOOSING EVERYTHING,AND NEED HELP,BUT I GUESS AS A REPUBLICAN YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM...,,,,,,,HAVE A NICE DAY.WHILE THIS PEOPLE ARE STARVING.....
RUFUS

[Rabbithoundjb]

I try hard Pine mt not to make these posts personnel because I believe everyone is entitle to their opinion wheather I agree or not. What I dont understand with some of you is that you vote in the people that dont support your priciples as you state them. I will never support a candidate with a record of supporting all types of abortion period and definitely not a candidate that disrespects the american flag, the national anthem and the pledge allegience. The fact is the republicans aren't padding their pockets any more than the democrats. There not exploiting the common man anymore then the democrats. You guys better wake up and start researching these politicians individually and stop lumping them together. A good example of what I am talking about is the McCain/Bush analogy by the voters this year, McCains record is drastically different than Bushes.
The part of their record that is so different that would be the biggest advantage to the american citizens right now is McCains record on spending reform instead of Obama who is out spending Bush.

[bluegrass]

I KNOW YOU THINK 5% OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE 95% OF THE MONEY




No, I dont believe this...however, I also dont believe that GOVERNMENT should take money away from these 5% in a greater percentage than the rest of the 95%...


You obviously have envy of those with money...I dont have money yet I do not envy them either. I dont begrudge someone with money the way you do. I would hope that this country stays free enough for either me or my kids to be able to aspire to make a LOT of money without the Government saying they make too much and taking it away.


Apparently you think its ok for the top 5% of wage earners to PAY over 50% of the TOTAL TAXES PAID in this country....thats reprehensible, immoral and downright criminal. Should be a flat tax of say, 8-10% for EVERYONE. No more refunds, no more loopholes, no more welfare for those that pay NOTHING in taxes at all.


Tony

[beaglechase]

I should read the Bible on being judgemental huh...I suppose you mean that old mis quoted verse about "judge not lest ye be judged also", right?? That is NOT what the Bible means about judgement, and we ARE commanded to judge right from wrong, which is what I believe I was doing.

As for Clinton, he was found guilty of lying under oath and was barred by the Supreme Court from ever arguing in front of their court again...if you dont believe me, do your own research. He was IMPEACHED by the House but the Senate didnt have any balls so they didnt vote to remove. Simple history.



Tony

tell us what Mathew 7; vs 1-5 means tell us what you think it means and are you a christian? an authority on the bible?

[tinymwoods]

I'm not a very religious man, so I may be wrong here, but doesn't the Bible also speak of not using It for arguments?

[Tim H]

I KNOW YOU THINK 5% OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE 95% OF THE MONEY

How do you think it should be divided? Do you think the government should decide how it is divided?

[Rabbithoundjb]

Tim if the government decides how it is divided they will have all of the money and the rest of the country will be in poverty. CAN ANYONE SAY THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

[Tim H]

I'm wanting to hear from the liberals, so they will have to think about the answer.

[Rabbithoundjb]

Tim let me change this up a little and take a look from a different angle. So you guys believe that the wealthy should support the poor( share the wealth) or (spread the wealth) as your president said.Well it is starting with the nationalizing of the banks, healthcare and the government dictating to the states how they can use their budgets and so on. I want to know what incentive the future generations of children have to try hard in school to achieve at the highest level they can if everyone will have the same benefits controlled by the government. When they could become an engineer and a non-citizen would have the medical care that they would. Seems to me there would be more incentive to be useless, sorry, with your hand held out for your fair share.

Let me say this where each of you should be able to understand what I am saying. When I raise a litter of pups I am looking for those pups that excell, peel the skin off of their nose,beat the hair off of their tails, cut their ears all to pieces, just abuse themselves to find, stick too, and account for that rabbit. Based on this socialist plan we are being presented with you would just keep, feed, medicate and take care all of them for life wheather they do anything or not.

[beaglechase]

Hey guys I think I know the conservatives solution to this...first go back the way it was, or realy where we are at today. second give the banks another 350 billion no strings attached.....third, get rid of all that d%$n welfare, forth, if you don't earn it you won't get it. five women who have an abortion should face the death penalty sixth let Rush Limbaugh be attorney general, and everone talk like a skinhead,,seventh any ideas from democrats or liberals (there is a difference) should by all means be abolished,,,,Bushinites will be worshipped as he will go down in history as a wise president....Recind the Obama stimulus package...for it has nothing in it for the military.....and there are not any people hurting now,so we will let the economy take care of itself, so we won't be a sosialist nation. machine guns and all military arsenal will be on sale at your local walmart......we need to build more obsolete planes , tanks, and nucular arsenal.

[Tim H]

Pine Mt Beagles wrote:I KNOW YOU THINK 5% OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE 95% OF THE MONEY



How do you think it should be divided? Do you think the government should decide how it is divided?

Beaglechase, I wanted to know what you liberals think, instead you try to tell us what to think and just throw out anything to avoid answering.


Again answer this simple 2 part question. How do you think it should be divided up and do you think the government should decide how it is divided?