BOLDSTROKES NIPPER

[MBK]

Hey MSOHIO, how are you and your family? You are right Gill would do that,that was just one of his little tricks. But that was gill not the dogs.I couldn't tell you about Nipper never seen her. If she ghost trialed she must have been pretty good at it ,she fooled alot of people.I couldn't tell you anything about the dogs in NC except a couple of them one I had here a while and one I went to watch at a trial. Ican tell you all we killed alot of ghost off the dogs I have back here this year.All of them aren't from Gill or Boldstroke but they did well.JCM you saying they won't Grand in ARHA is really a compliment I don't really care that much for the format. I think some of the boldstroke will do well in UKC I know they just really started being trialed a year or so ago and are doing OK. Rebel Granded I'm not sure but there was a dog named Kate that was doing pretty good.Help me out here msohio.I'm not trying to promote any dog.We just hunt and run.You fellas take it easy and stop letting Gill get to ya. This could be the best one yet, just like the oldtimer said he will be back. Think about it !!

[Helpful Houndman]

I've never seen a Boldstroke hound nor do I have anything negative or positive to state. My own question has always been where's the proof that they've placed or finished in AKC. Indeed Mr. Rusinack's dog has placed in various qualifiers and derbies. However that's vastly different than placing in a licensed trial. With that being said, I'm happy for the success his hound has had and I'm sure she's a fine dog if she please them.

Now as for the three hounds noted that were to have finished in AKC. I took it upon myself to check the AKC Online Store to see.

Boldstrokes Ramblin Willy - HM73031506
Beagle / Red & White
Male / JUL-21-1997

Boldstrokes Buffalo Bill -HM81575406
Beagle / BLACK WHITE & TAN
Male / JAN-28-1999

Boldstrokes Hurricane Mack - HM50085104
Beagle / Red & White
Male / AUG-15-1993

Sorry fellows but obviously someone has mislead you or filled out a pedigree wrong if they've ever placed FC in front of any of these dogs name. AKC's records shows none of those hounds ever placing in a licensed trial much less finished.

[Helpful Houndman]

I forgot to mention that I did find Boldstrokes Nipper having 32 points and 1 win towards an AKC FC title. Sorry...

[Cannon Hollow Hounds]

OK,Pete..Thanks

[bullboy]

ive been sitting here reading you know everytime this subject comes up look at all the browsers its unreal ive talked with many of you and it comes down to run what you like and what your happy with i have 2 boldstrokes a 9month old that as of now has a home forever thank you to graystone kennel for selling me this pup shes a burner started at 4 months old and can burn a rabbit no brush is going to stop her i have people on a waiting list for pups out of her already just need to find the right boyfriend for her i dont breed my females till there seasoned broke gun dogs if i had to pick on her shes to short for me we have snow up to my a-- and its tuff getting around when its that deep but nothing will stop her she just has guts to spare the other older female i have is a good dog but lacks the foot for it could be the age difference i run younger dogs and she can be a little tight mouthed irun high med fast dogs as for the akc fc i dont beleve i have seen or heard of any with talking with over 30 plus people that own or have owned boldstroke dogs this is not all i have in my kennel i dont just buy dogs because of pedigree i beleve in buying a dog or pup out of quality first as for buffalo bill i have a friend that runs dogs and trials alot that has ran with the dog and said the dog is a real good dog on the line and has tree shaking mouth as far as mbk i have talked with you a few times and i thank you for you honesty and information msohio i talked to you the other day things just did work out i guess im checking on blue dog that placed high in the eliminator i think she may be half boldstroke up here i run akc lg pack and you have to have a fast dog and were going to enter my pup in the futurity this summer and see what happens i wish slim was akc reg because i think he could run well up here in lg pack in closing it still comes down to run what you like and who cares what evryone else thinks to oldtimer i beleve i know who you are and it really dosent matter what you think to a great bunch of people till you become responsible enough to post your real name thank you bullboy todd cerven

[dawgydawg67]

MarkNC
Here you go sounding stupid again. Why would I ever offer Gil 4000.00 for any dog? Who has 4000.00 to spend on dogs that have no breeding behind them? What did she produce....Musket? Please how many times did Musket ever win a trial? 3 times at the most. I guess he got cheated everytime he ran.The getting cheated story is so old it's funny. Everytime he got beat he was cheated. I'm sure you heard that story too. As far as people getting to know me it came when I started running my own dogs. I never got Reserve Hound or the year with Gils dogs, I did with mine. You would never hear of my dogs because you don't run in the same format as I do. I am not a breeder I buy from the lines of dogs that I like. Look on a Boldstroke pedigree. A line that has been bred for 30 years..How come Davis's Big Boom in the late '80s is the first before the Boldstroke name. Look at the colors of the dogs,tri and black and tans till Mack came on the scene. Why all of sudden are they all red? Was it hard to figure out what bred what when everything runs loose living with the goats( in the house). Maybe that is why AKC stepped in. Has anyone failed a DNA profile yet? As far as my divorce maybe you should get your story straight AGAIN,I quit trialing in the spring of '97. I divorced my ex in spring of '98. So dumba@# get your stories straight again. You know if you would just take 2 seconds to think about what your gonna say before you do, you would stop, and then you wouldn't sound so stupid. That is all. Bob Dawes aka dawgydawg67













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[Lance]

dawgy's telling the truth......I've been there and seen the goats......1994 to be exact. Heard all the stories too......how about this one......"YOU COULD BREED MACK TO A GERMAN SHEPARD AND GET RABBIT DOGS". Yeah right. I got a pup off Mack and an old broke down looking female named something like "Davis's she's a dandy" or something like that. The pup was a true cull. Timid as hell and nothing like the dogs I thought I was going to be getting into. I guess she took from the female. Later on I called Gill out on the dog but he said he never bred Mack to a female with a name even close to that. He also said he only bred Mack a handfull of times before getting rid of him. Not according to the AKC. If I remember right he was bred 11 times that year.

Needless to say at 19 yrs old I learned my first lesson on dog BS'ers!

Today I still handle all my pups and start all my young dogs the same way I did back then and have no problems.

I hate to think that alot of you guys fell for the same crap stories and lies that I did but I'd be willing to bet you did.

Lance

[Aaron Sampsel]

does anyone know of any boldstroke dog that will be at the West Lafayette Ohio ukc world qualifing event on march 6 if so please let me know i would like to see the dog run if its is possible. i will probably be guiding and judging a cast so hopefully i will get the chance
PS this is also where the world hunt is going to be held this year
Aaron Sampsel

[pwill]

This has got to be the sillyest thing I have heard in a long time. As you can read, alot of people have owned Boldstroke dogs. Some think they are the best thing ever and some wouldn`t waist a bullet on them . But what does it matter. Not a thing in this world.
Gill is no saint as we all know, but to get on this board and run him down as a person, a breeder, a trialer and to call him a lier is just crazy. If you don`t like him fine , we all don`t get along. But I don`t remember reading where Gill Davis came on this board on this thread and said anything to anyone. What does he have to do with it?NOTHING.Mark asked about a dog? Thats all. Then all of a sudden there is a linch mob trying to hang the Boldstroke dogs and Gill. Why?
No not all Boldstroke dogs are world beaters? Some ain`t worth anything. Same as any line out there. If you got a bad dog from Gill , well it happens. Sorry.
As far as making field champions , there are alot of Boldstrokes that are field champions, as Tom said most are in ARHA. They are being trialed some in UKC now and are doing very well.
The Boldstrokes are a good, solid line of hounds that can compete with any around. Can they be beat ? YES. Have they beat some big named hounds ?YES.
Every time there is a Boldstroke thread on this board or any other board , we go through this and personally I`m sick of it.
So with that being said, If you have a question if the Boldstroke line of dogs is a good line , come see me. I`m in Oxford NC. I will be glad to show you, run with you, talk with you.
I have good Boldstrokes and I`m proud of them.
As far as Musket, Musket is a LP champion , he hunts right now as good as any dog I`ve seen. He has produced numerous champions.
If you don`t like him fine, I can respect that.
His record speaks for it`s self. If he couldn`t run rabbits and win trials, then he sure did fool alot, I mean alot of people.
So in closing, Feed what you like and I will feed what I like and If you have something constructive to say,, then say it but put your name on it. It will have a whole lot more credabilty.
Again If anyone wants to come and check out this line , I will be glad to show and run with you. Thanks Paul 919-690-0374 pwill@ncol.net

[msohio]

the family is fine MBK. Bullboy you did talk to me the other day, Kate did do well, she is a UKC rabbit champ and she has a hundred and some odd points in LP but no first, I know I was talking about Gil, the dogs have their good points, for the most part they start early(4- 5months) hunt hard and if you get a good one will smoke a rabbit and they have their bad points, They are shy, whether that was from lack of socialization or an inbred fault I don't know, they are mouthy, they have a high occurance of cherry eye, and seizures. In fact I had one that looked to be very promising but he had to be put down because his seizures were so bad. Gil will be back with a vengance, and he will be mad at me for saying these things, but it is the truth. Now I am done. Guys have a good day.

[pwill]

Aaron, I know I won`t have a dog at the qualifer but I will have one in WV. Mark will have some there too. He already has one dog qualified for the world hunt and we will be attending in OCT. Hopefully with more dogs than just one lol. Look forward to meeting you in OCT. If not before. Thanks Paul

[JCM]

When your aim is to benefit financially from the public, as Gill did for a number of years, the public has the right to comment in your product.

As for Musket, people laughed about him for several years around here. No one who knew rabbit hounds would even think about breeding to him. He was the joke of the ARHA hunts. If you don't want to put your Boldstroke dogs up to ridicule, then don't brag about them.

I ran against Musket one time and Gill rode out with me. We went to the pine trees to run the cast. The whole way out all I heard was: you're in trouble today, Musket's been killing all my dogs, he's been destroying everything, and on and on and on . . .

We ran about 58 minutes. When the cast was over 150 points won the cast. Musket was last with 25. When Gill complained to the judge, the judge commented, "just cause he is barking, it doesn't mean he is scoring." All the way back to the clubhouse I had to listen to what a cheater the judge was.

This was just one time of several that I had the pleasure of being in a cast with Musket. I could go on, but my point is--if you brag about a dog, he better either be outstanding, or else he better be one that no one else has ever seen.

If your best dog is a Boldstroke--don't be sad. Just keep looking, things will get better.

[pwill]

JCM, I said they could be beat, so Musket got beat. .........So whats your point?
So Gill bragged and got beat, OH WELL. haven`t we all sometime in our life.
The offer is on the table, come run, see if anything has changed, you might be suprised.

If you don`t own a Boldstroke , don`t be sad. .....well then again maybe you should be sad.

Paul

[NC Beagler]

I think it is really disturbing to see so much fighting on this board about bloodlines. Debating would be fine - discussing the strength and weakness, etc. But mostly I just see a bunch of slamming, and negative comments about dogs and breeders. Really pretty sad.

Just like beagles, everyone has their favority pick-up, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota - not everyone is going to like the same truck and it ridiculous to spend so much time bashing other people's choice.

Any time a dog reaches the place of notarity, there are going to be people that like him and people that don't - nothing wrong w/ that. But why do so many people feel they have to bash that dog or bloodline everytime it is mentioned on here?

[Guest]

son i'll tell you why. if them there boys dont to try to build up them dogs from gill by talking, maybe folks wouldnt be jerking their chain so bad. they should have said they got the dogs an let it be. folks would know who had em if'n they wanted them. then evertime somebody says something they get all bent outa shape, like they got the best dang dogs in the world. they shoulda just took them to trials and letum win, then folks would no and see. well now im gonna put my nose where it dont belong. just maybe they not the best dang dogs in the world. but just maybe, just maybe they paid a best dang dog in the world price, and they think they got the best dang dogs in the world. now thats my thinking. nuff is enuff, yall let them boys be.. yall gone now, go run them dogs an keep winning them trials.

old timer