WHOA!!! THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT!!! or can it?

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Rabbithoundjb on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:27 am

I'm not fighting, I am trying to dicuss the facts and I would be interested in what you think our great depression was. I personally think our current problems started long before 9 years ago.


Pine mt, you have gotta be joking. You come on here and accuse all of us that don't support Obama's policies of twisting the facts and you post that unemployment is down (not true 9.7% in August) the highest its been in 30 years. Obama's approval rating on handling healthcare is 74%. HMMMMM try 30's and 40's depending on the polls you see and the disapproval is about 10% higher. Who is it twisting the facts again.-----------------------

OK NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,TWISTING THE FACTS NO LIEING ABOUT THE FACTS.PERIOD...JUST LIKE JOE WILSON HE CALLED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES A LIAR...WHEN IN FACT HE WAS THE LIAR,, NO QUESTION....BIRTHERS ---LIARS ,DEATHERS LIARS...NO QUESTION BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER ,THE POLL NUBBERS YOU SHOWED MUST HAVE CAME FROM THIS BOARD, ----------YOU GUY'S CONTINUALY ACUSE ME OF BEING A MINORITY,OK, AND THE ONLY ONE OF A KIND JUST PLAIN DUMB,OK, ,DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ,OK,OBAMA SUPPORTER,
TRUE,,,BUT SOMETHING, I DO KNOW IS THE PRESIDENT WON WITH 365 ELECTORIAL VOTES SO THE 10 OR 20 OF YOU, MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, :: IF THE ELECTION WAS TODAY IT WOULD BE WELL OVER 400,,,,NOW HERE IS THE THING FOR ME,,,,,,,,,THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IS SELF DESTRUCTING, AT AN ALARMING RATE ,IT'S A FACT,AND I ABSOUTLEY DON'T WANT THAT, TO HAPPEN,I BELIEVE IN A LOT OF THE CONSERVATIVE VIEWS.I STAND WITH YOU GUY'S ON GUN CONTROL,ILLEGAL IMIGRATION,SMALL GOVERNMENT,THE CONSTITUTION UNCHANGED,,BUT THERE ARE TIMES, FORCED UPON US, WHEN PRIORITIES CHANGE,THAT IS WHERE DIFFER,I FEAR, IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DON'T GET IN TOUCH WITH THE NEEDS OF AMERICA, NOT JUST THE ELIETE,THEY WILL LOOSE, EVEN MORE SEATS, NOT MUCH DOUBT, THERE,AMERICA IS NOT DESIGNED TO FUNCTION IN A ONE PARTY SYSTEM,
I'AM NOT SAYING, NO ONE SHOULD SCARFICE THEIR BASIC'S VALUES OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE,,JUST LOOK AT THE FACT'S ,BECAUSE A TREE IN A WIND STORM IF IT DON'T BEND SURLEY, WILL BREAK,AND THE ROOT'S WILL DIE,,,,,,,,,,,
GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL---------AND TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE TIME-----------

RUFUS

[barnold1]

"NO NEED TO WASTE YOUR TIME BASHING ME I WANT BE BACK,I THINK I WILL LEAVE POLITICS TO THE POLITICIANS,,,,,,,,,"

Eh tu, Rufe????

[tommyg]

Rabbithoundjb on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:27 am

I'm not fighting, I am trying to dicuss the facts and I would be interested in what you think our great depression was. I personally think our current problems started long before 9 years ago.


Pine mt, you have gotta be joking. You come on here and accuse all of us that don't support Obama's policies of twisting the facts and you post that unemployment is down (not true 9.7% in August) the highest its been in 30 years. Obama's approval rating on handling healthcare is 74%. HMMMMM try 30's and 40's depending on the polls you see and the disapproval is about 10% higher. Who is it twisting the facts again.-----------------------

OK NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,TWISTING THE FACTS NO LIEING ABOUT THE FACTS.PERIOD...JUST LIKE JOE WILSON HE CALLED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES A LIAR...WHEN IN FACT HE WAS THE LIAR,, NO QUESTION....BIRTHERS ---LIARS ,DEATHERS LIARS...NO QUESTION BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER ,THE POLL NUBBERS YOU SHOWED MUST HAVE CAME FROM THIS BOARD, ----------YOU GUY'S CONTINUALY ACUSE ME OF BEING A MINORITY,OK, AND THE ONLY ONE OF A KIND JUST PLAIN DUMB,OK, ,DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ,OK,OBAMA SUPPORTER,
TRUE,,,BUT SOMETHING, I DO KNOW IS THE PRESIDENT WON WITH 365 ELECTORIAL VOTES SO THE 10 OR 20 OF YOU, MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, :: IF THE ELECTION WAS TODAY IT WOULD BE WELL OVER 400,,,,NOW HERE IS THE THING FOR ME,,,,,,,,,THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IS SELF DESTRUCTING, AT AN ALARMING RATE ,IT'S A FACT,AND I ABSOUTLEY DON'T WANT THAT, TO HAPPEN,I BELIEVE IN A LOT OF THE CONSERVATIVE VIEWS.I STAND WITH YOU GUY'S ON GUN CONTROL,ILLEGAL IMIGRATION,SMALL GOVERNMENT,THE CONSTITUTION UNCHANGED,,BUT THERE ARE TIMES, FORCED UPON US, WHEN PRIORITIES CHANGE,THAT IS WHERE DIFFER,I FEAR, IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DON'T GET IN TOUCH WITH THE NEEDS OF AMERICA, NOT JUST THE ELIETE,THEY WILL LOOSE, EVEN MORE SEATS, NOT MUCH DOUBT, THERE,AMERICA IS NOT DESIGNED TO FUNCTION IN A ONE PARTY SYSTEM,
I'AM NOT SAYING, NO ONE SHOULD SCARFICE THEIR BASIC'S VALUES OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE,,JUST LOOK AT THE FACT'S ,BECAUSE A TREE IN A WIND STORM IF IT DON'T BEND SURLEY, WILL BREAK,AND THE ROOT'S WILL DIE,,,,,,,,,,,
GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL---------AND TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE TIME-----------

RUFUS

More good comedy Rufus. Wilson was being kind to the liar you call President. Easy for you to forget the vile crap you Liberals called Bush when he was President,typical Liberal- cry foul when the favor is returned. I got some money to bet Democruds loose house control and maybe the senate. Also Obama is gone in 2012. Go away and stay this time Rufus the American people are speaking and the Liberals are in trouble. Either way Rufus I wish I could see the big tears when the Liberals are ousted from power the American people have seen them for what they are RANK AMATEURS THAT COULDN'T RUN A KOOL AID STAND.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

NO ONE COULD CALL BUSH WHAT HE DESIRVED TO BE CALLED THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN JAILED,----------------------BARNOLD1, PEOPLE, LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE THE DEAD, COME ALIVE THE WAY YOU PI$$, ON WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR,
AT THIS RATE THERE WANT BE A REPUBLICAN TEA DRINKING CLAN IN 2012,,YOU GUY'S DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH, YOU TALKED OUT OF LAST.CALLING YOU GUY'S HIPPOCRITS IS A COMPLIMENT TO YOU,,,,YOU GUY'S,NOTHING BUT ARROGANT A$$'S,DON'T, KNOW DON'T CARE LONG, AS YOU GET ALL YOU CAN,TO DEFEND JOE WILSON, IS A DISGRACE IN ITSELF,AND WILL COST THE ELITE TEA DRINKERS DEARLY,THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS ALMOST IMPLODED IN THE LAST 7 OR 8 MONTHS ,AND IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT ,AT ALL,SO FAR HE HAS MADE A LOT OF GOOD DECISIONS THAT THE REPUBLICANS CANNOT DEBATE,ONLY LIE AND MISDIRECT THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM,THEY HAVE COMPLETELY LOST TRACK OF THE TRUTH,-----------365-----ELECTORIAL VOTES,AND GROWING EVERY DAY, YOU GUY'S ARE,
JUST SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--

[barnold1]

RUFUS,,,,,,CALL ME OLD SKOOL BUT I THANK AMERICA STANDS FOR HARD WERK AND ACHEEVMINT,,,,,NOT GUBBERMENT HANDOWTZ FER THOZE TO LAZEE TO ACHEEV THAR OWN I AIN'T NEVR BEN ASKIN FER MORE THAN I ERNT,,,,,WHICH KAINT B SED FER ALOT OF S THAT VOTD FER HIS SORRY AZZ....

SO KEEP ON CHUGGIN,,,,,,,,,,IT'S TIME TO START HUNTIN AND WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS TURN OUT, BUT I'M STILL ROOTIN FOR MY TEAM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... ouse-dems/

[lab]

I have to agree with Pine Mt Beagles about the way Joe Wilson Handle his comments. If this is the type of attitude we have in congress about our President we don't need him. If it was the other way and a Democrat blurting out about something about a republican President it would still be wrong. All this does is get things stirred up and makes that party look weak. We all must remember O'bama was handed two wars and the highest unemployment since the depression along with a country far in debt. O'bama is going into his 9th mth of being president and with the mess he was given what do you want him to do just sit on his ass and do nothing. Sometimes you must spend money to make money. Yes it puts us in more of a hole but we must put people back to work so people will start spending again. If you are one of the unlucky 10 percent of the people that is layed off because of the sluggish economy that O'bama was dealt with you may want to see a government Health Care Plan so you might be able to get some type of insurance for your family. I can tell you this that the Big Insurance companies don't care one way if you are working or not all they want is your monthly premium. They will drop you like a sinking ship when that monthly bill is not payed. There is know doubt who the big Insurance companies have back in the Presidental races along with the big oil companies and they don't care about people much less the lower and middle class of people. I am not saying that everything the President is doing is right when it comes to Health Form but many out there needs coverage and the cheapest way they can get it. Obama if he is to make a differnce with this sluggish economy it will take most of his term to get this country back running the way it should be. Remember it took 8 years of Bush and Congress to get it this way hopefully O'bama and congress can get it back where it belongs in 4 years. I believe there is people out there that will complain about O'bama no matter what he does because of his Party and his race. I think it was a terrible thing that a President put alot of work in a speech about Education and alot of the people of the U.S. including school officials did not want to let the young people watch what was a good message. When he trys to do good there is people out there trying to destroy him for some reason. I have said enough and hope I did not offend many people but this is the way i feel right or wrong.

[bluegrass]

Good grief, here we go again....

Sometimes you must spend money to make money

Let me say it yet once again...GOVERNMENT HAS NO MONEY...IT BELONGS TO US!!!. That being said, you couldnt be more wrong and I pray you are NEVER in charge of anyone's finances with that kind of ideology...let me ask, IF you have ever been out of money, or even scraping the bottom of the barrel, did YOU spend money to make money??? Business owners will "spend money to make money" but they are spending to expand a BUSINESS THAT THEY OWN...GOVERNMENT SHOULDNT OWN A DAM.N THING!! This idea that the government is spending money to create jobs is a total fabrication and contrary to how a CAPITALIST economy works...which, you see, is why Obambi is trying to re-make our economy in HIS image...

If this is the type of attitude we have in congress about our President we don't need him

I doubt you would vote Republican anyway, so your disdain doesnt make any difference anyway...how about the fact that Obambi was standing there before both houses and calling Republicans LIARS by saying they had been spreading falsehoods regarding illegals getting healthcare under the libtards proposals?? You werent offended by that were you?? I'll take the liberty of answering for you...NO YOU WERE NOT offended by it because you are liberal and agree with everything Obambi said...as did Rufus. I wouldnt like ANY president to be loved and adored by everyone...its not how our government was set up. The fact that a contrary attitude towards "our" president offends you is very telling...

Sometimes you must spend money to make money. Yes it puts us in more of a hole but we must put people back to work so people will start spending again

Lets see..you want government to spend the American Taxpayer's money, on phony jobs for Americans so they can SPEND the money they get paid from the government (which is coming from Americans to begin with)??? Liberals think this makes sense??? NO WONDER every liberal economic policy is flawed from the very beginning...

Remember it took 8 years of Bush and Congress to get it this way hopefully O'bama and congress can get it back where it belongs in 4 years.

SO, LETS SEE...it was Bush really, not congress then, right??? You say it took 8 years of BUSH AND CONGRESS to get us here, yet you are counting on Obambi and CONGRESS to fix it??? Let me remind you that this economic downturn happened after the DEMOCRUDS won the Congress...we had already turned the corner after 911 and things were going ok til old BOTOX PELOSI and her gang started meddling...so YOU have faith in Congress...you are part of the less than 25% that does...congrats.

I believe there is people out there that will complain about O'bama no matter what he does because of his Party and his race.

The ONLY ones out "there" talking about race are DEMOCRATS...the party of TRUE RACISM...let me remind you again that it was REPUBLICANS who got the last CIVIL RIGHTS BILL passed...you know, the one that AL GORE'S dad tried to eliminate???

I think it was a terrible thing that a President put alot of work in a speech about Education and alot of the people of the U.S. including school officials did not want to let the young people watch what was a good message.

YOU are free to think what you want to (thank a Veteran for that) but that also means that I AND OTHERS LIKEMINDED AS I are also free to think what we want to and WE DIDNT WANT OBAMA SPEAKING TO OUR KIDS WITH NO BUFFER OTHER THAN LIBERAL "EDUCATORS" TO GUIDE THEM. I wouldnt let my kids talk to Obama face to face if the opportunity would arise. He represents almost everything I am against and governs contrary to what I BELIEVE a president should portray. A president has no business sticking his nose into schools anyway. He isnt a King, god or Emperor, he is an ELECTED CIVIL SERVANT...and he wasnt elected to oversee schools...

When he trys to do good there is people out there trying to destroy him for some reason.

When he tried to do good for someone other than his cronies or union thugs I'll put more stock in that statement. By the way, its not HIM we are trying to destroy, its HIS LIBERAL, COMMUNIST POLICIES that we want destroyed...big difference.

I have said enough and hope I did not offend many people but this is the way i feel right or wrong.

Your opinions dont offend anyone...however you DID lace your post with accusations that were NOT OPINIONS and although I disagree with the policies you advocate, I dont think anything was offensive at all...conservatives usually arent as thin skinned as liberals anyway...


Tony

[tommyg]

NO ONE COULD CALL BUSH WHAT HE DESIRVED TO BE CALLED THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN JAILED,----------------------BARNOLD1, PEOPLE, LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE THE DEAD, COME ALIVE THE WAY YOU PI$$, ON WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR,
AT THIS RATE THERE WANT BE A REPUBLICAN TEA DRINKING CLAN IN 2012,,YOU GUY'S DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH, YOU TALKED OUT OF LAST.CALLING YOU GUY'S HIPPOCRITS IS A COMPLIMENT TO YOU,,,,YOU GUY'S,NOTHING BUT ARROGANT A$$'S,DON'T, KNOW DON'T CARE LONG, AS YOU GET ALL YOU CAN,TO DEFEND JOE WILSON, IS A DISGRACE IN ITSELF,AND WILL COST THE ELITE TEA DRINKERS DEARLY,THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS ALMOST IMPLODED IN THE LAST 7 OR 8 MONTHS ,AND IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT ,AT ALL,SO FAR HE HAS MADE A LOT OF GOOD DECISIONS THAT THE REPUBLICANS CANNOT DEBATE,ONLY LIE AND MISDIRECT THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM,THEY HAVE COMPLETELY LOST TRACK OF THE TRUTH,-----------365-----ELECTORIAL VOTES,AND GROWING EVERY DAY, YOU GUY'S ARE,
JUST SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--

Republican Party almost Imploded well Rufus the Democrat Party is imploding as I type. You say that Joe Wilson is a disgrace well alot of AMERICANS disagree with you and the Left. Obama has made good decisions well 52% of Americans disagree with you again. The debate is mute the AMERICAN people are speaking and they say Obama is a moron,and they are the ones who vote.Like I said Rufus 2010 and 2012 will see the end to the Liberal SOCIALIST take over. Now Rufus you can do what you do best misspell words and cry.

[old blood beagles]

Bluegrass, the statements you have made are hurrific. You would not allow your children to speak to the President of the United States? You stated in another post that you would take your children out of school the day that the President was to address the kids "did you"?
Did you watch the Presidents speach on education? Did it affend you or your beliefs? If President Obama was to visit your childs school to read a book to them would you not allow your child to go that day?


One more thing, what was President Bush doing the day of Sept. 11 when the towers were hit? You must really hate him for doing everything that you think a President should not do!

The President of the United States reguardless of his political party asked to speak to the children of the United States about education and how it does effect them and you think this is a bad thing?

Stop talking about parties and start talking about what is best for the American public, and when my President asks to speak to my children about the importance of education and how it will effect them then I will be the first to turn on the chanel.

[bluegrass]

Bluegrass, the statements you have made are hurrific. You would not allow your children to speak to the President of the United States? You stated in another post that you would take your children out of school the day that the President was to address the kids "did you"?
Did you watch the Presidents speach on education? Did it affend you or your beliefs? If President Obama was to visit your childs school to read a book to them would you not allow your child to go that day?


One more thing, what was President Bush doing the day of Sept. 11 when the towers were hit? You must really hate him for doing everything that you think a President should not do!

The President of the United States reguardless of his political party asked to speak to the children of the United States about education and how it does effect them and you think this is a bad thing?

Stop talking about parties and start talking about what is best for the American public, and when my President asks to speak to my children about the importance of education and how it will effect them then I will be the first to turn on the chanel.

LMFAO....ok lets go then...

Hurrific-(I assume you mean HORRIFIC) Definition:Causing horror; terrifying. Etymology: Latin horrificus : horrre, to tremble + -ficus, -fic ...So my statement that I wouldnt allow my children to be addressed by Obambi, or to meet him face to face causes HORROR??? Its TERRIFYING to you??? LMFAO AGAIN...you scare easily.

You would not allow your children to speak to the President of the United States? .....No, not THIS president...maybe some other, I don't know for sure, but I DO KNOW FOR SURE NOT OBAMBI....

You stated in another post that you would take your children out of school the day that the President was to address the kids "did you"? ....WOW, nice to see that what I say leaves an impression on you, I had actually forgotten that I wrote that. To answer your question, I WOULD have but didnt need to....my kids schools chose NOT to broadcast the propaganda this communist administration was spewing out...we live in a pretty conservative area that I thank God for...

Did you watch the Presidents speach on education? Did it affend you or your beliefs? If President Obama was to visit your childs school to read a book to them would you not allow your child to go that day? ...The answer to the first question is NO, I didnt watch it...it probably would not have offended my beliefs, actually from what I heard of the speech it was quite conservative in nature. The answer to question three is NO, I would NOT allow them to go to school that day. I have little control over the teachers in the schools, although my wife and I know most of them in our smaller town, yet I DO have control over whether or not to allow them to meet a Communist like Obambi...my choice, my kids. At least its STILL my choice for now...who knows with the nanny state we are rapidly becoming.



and when my President asks to speak to my children about the importance of education and how it will effect them then I will be the first to turn on the chanel.....yep, and when YOUR president "asks" them to tell their teachers, doctors and others who will be required to ask if you have any guns in your household, make sure you are the first one to tell them to confirm that YES you do have guns in the house...or when YOUR president "asks" (requires) your children to attend "Voluntary Civil Service", you make sure they get ready on time and attend every day...I'll take care of my children, you take care of yours...


Tony

[old blood beagles]

Put your party to the side Tony, the President asked to speak to the children about education, it had nothing to do with health care it had nothing to do about pro-life, it had nothing to do about religion. It had to do with education and our children and you are so blinded by party lines that you can not even say that what he did was a good thing.

One more thing, you did not answer about Bush reading to our children in our schools and I can only think by the posts that you have made that you must hate him for being there!!!! He must be a communist too!!!!!
Just because this President is far to the left and you are far to the right does not mean you are correct on everything you believe in and he is wrong in everything he does. This country was founded by individuals that learned to meet in the middle its about time you join in.

[bluegrass]

One more thing, you did not answer about Bush reading to our children in our schools and I can only think by the posts that you have made that you must hate him for being there!!!!


You shouldnt ASSUME...it makes an ASs out of U and Me....LOL...I would have answered your question, I simply forgot that part....I would not be in favor of ANY sitting president addressing students...however, let me point out one simple FACT you forgot...


OBAMBI wanted it MANDATORY for students to view his speech...narcissistic megalamaniac...as I have said before. Bush visited ONE classroom...Obambi wanted his mug plastered in EVERY classroom...huge difference there liberal.



Your turn.


Tony

[old blood beagles]

Tony, I am not Liberal... I just hate to think that our country has become so bad that people "like you" would not allow your children to watch the President of the United States. I just hate to think that you are so party blind that you cant give credit when it is do. I just hate to think that you really believe that the President is communist. We dont have to agree on everything and I dont always agree with what Obama is doing, but I will not ever call him communist, he is our President.

[tommyg]

Tony, I am not Liberal... I just hate to think that our country has become so bad that people "like you" would not allow your children to watch the President of the United States. I just hate to think that you are so party blind that you cant give credit when it is do. I just hate to think that you really believe that the President is communist. We dont have to agree on everything and I dont always agree with what Obama is doing, but I will not ever call him communist, he is our President.

Guess I'm like Tony.I WON'T fall for the Obama lies and Socialist agenda.

[TC]

The President of the United States regardless of his political party asked to speak to the children of the United States about education and how it does effect them and you think this is a bad thing?

I Also had a problem With letting School Children be addressed By the President...
My reason..
HE did not and WOULD not release an Agenda to the Public on WHAT he Would be Speaking on or About!! not until pressured to Do So.....So i would not let just ANYBODY Address my Child unless I KNEW what it was Going to be About....

OBAMA wanted it MANDATORY for students to view his speech...

This is STILL AMERICA (At least For awhile Longer)
If you Were TOLD that YOU HAD to Listen to a speech Weather you wanted to or not and Were not even Sure what it was going to be about WOULD YOU????? you Still have a CHOICE.....

Most School Boards have to have PRIOR Approval Of anything released in the PUBLIC school System BEFOREHAND!!!!
That Was WHY so many Schools DID NOT show it..They Did not have Approval and Could not get it Without a Agenda or Synopsis of what was going to be Said or addressed....

I listened to the speech And found it was OK he had Some worthwhile Things to Say So WHY wouldnt he release it beforehand???

Now as Far As Joe Speaking up during the Speech on health Care Reform GOOD JOB!!!!! Wish We had more like him that Will actually Stand up and QUESTION our leaders and DISAGREE With them!!!!
That is WHY our Government was Set up the Way it is!!! To keep ONE person from DICTATING to All !!!!!