"BORN DEER PROOF"

[jfields]

Every dog I have or have had will not run deer. After u bury them

Exactly my thoughts.

[steve w]

Here's what I think on deer proof dogs, have two brothers same litter one ran deer before rabbit. In fact the first chase was a deer and I did not find them for three days because of it. The "deerproof" one was'nt ready to start so he never opened he just tagged along. I believe he did not like being away from home and leaves the deer alone because of it.I guess it did'nt bother his brother as much because it took considerable effort to break him. He has not ran a deer in a number of years and I have dogs out of him that do not run deer.His sire and dam did not run deer. So knowing all this could it be possible I may have a resemblence of line of deer proof dogs? Only the one in three generations that I know of, I doubt it. I think dogs are more a product of enviroment then genetics in the deer chasing department, give a dog to much of a chance to be trashy he'll be trashy give the dog that is tractable the chance to please and he will. a smart dog that is tractable will figure out quick that rabbits make you happy and deer pee you off. So if someone tells me they have a deer proof line of dogs I really don't doudbt that there dogs don't run deer, but I do doubt that every pup they ever produce would be deer free too.

[tommyg]

I have a 9 year old female that has never bumped deer fox house cats she runs rabbits only she will come back if a hound starts trash. There is a lot of guys who test their hounds with her. Is she naturaly deer proof well I'd say she is she was never broke or shocked off trash. I have 2 female pups out of her neither have ran trash,will they I don't know. While rare deer proof dogs are out there.

[jason]

I would have been one who would never ever believe a dog can be born deer proof, I purchased a bitch when she was 8 wks old,she was the only beagle in my kennel at the time, I had her running cottaintail at 3 months old,she comes from a long line of dogs that aren't to particular what they run. Last rabbit season i had her leave a pack of dogs that started out on deer on 2 different occasions while the rest of the pack was getting rounded up her and i hunted rabbits (priceless) I had her run a cottaintail through a known deer yard in the middle of winter with a couple of feet of snow. While i was waiting to see what she would come back with or not come back 5 different deer ran by me, 10 min. later the cottaintail went by with her hot on his tail. I had a friend try on 2 different evenings to get her to pack on a fox run with other dogs,she would have no part of it. "Born Deer Proof" i dont know what else you can call it. I hunt the winters after deer season in upstate NY like i said PRICELESS

[rabbitearl]

Oh I believe.Have not run a deer in 9 years now.Breed to a male 11 years ago that the guy try to get it to run deer but it would not so I breed him.Got 4 females now that are 10.Took the e collor of when they were two never shock them off from deer befor that.Had beagles for 36 years now and had one more that would not.For yall that don t believe look at this.You are ready to breed a female and you find two males.They hunt and run the same.When running, one has a e collor and the other don t.The man said that dog with no collor has never ran nothing but a rabbit.But that one there if there a deer around by by rabbit hello deer.I know the one I would breed too.Yes they are dogs natural and there are some that want run a swamp rabbit too.

[Duke]

I have had and seen dogs that dont run deer. I have not seen WHOLE LINES that are deer proof. I doubt they exist and if they do, I might be suspect of the hounds desire. With e-collars and knowledge deer are not a problem in my book.

I would rather get them started and get them to try one and I break them. Plain and simple its not hard to break hounds off of deer if you start them right. Start them in a pen where you know they will start on rabbits. Get them going good on rabbits then take them to the wild and LOOK for deer. Put them on them and as they START to run them tap them, then get them on some rabbits. Do this a couple of times increasing the intensity when they try a deer. You will break them. You must keep putting them on deer until they stop, and after each correction find them some rabbits.

I am always wary of a hound that has yet to run a deer, my jessie dog never ran a deer, then at 6 years old she tried a fox. If you havent broke them you never know, sometimes and old dog that has never ran deer will just run one. Weird but it happens. I like them broke, it works for me, and I run in trials where off game isnt a penalty, and beleive me when 20 or more dogs take off on a deer and your dog doesnt go, you know youve done it right.

[Tnrabbit]

With the right breeding program you might be able to develop a line that would be 95% deer proof but it would take years and lots of money to be able to accomplish this. Line breeding would be one way to start trying to develop a line. The money is not in beagles like it is in other hunting dog breeds so therefore there is not a real incentive for someone to try and do this. you would have to raise several 100 pups a year and cull ruthless to just be able to start a breeding program in hopes of accomplish this.

would every pup out of a breeding program like this never run a deer? there would still be a few but the numbers would be way down from just going out and breeding to a good ol hunting dog or a Ch.

Tight line breeding you would be able to isolate some of dogs that don't show deer running and be able to accomplsh this in 25 or so years most are not this dedicated for something like this so therefore it probably isn't done very much.

[Rabbithoundjb]

I will have to agree that some from any bloodline are going to try off game. Having said that I have been breeding my own line of grade dogs for about 25 years now and of the ones I have kept about half never ran trash. The other half had to be broke, most have been very easy to break.They are linebred and just like any other line some are better than others, I have seen better individual dogs but I like them.

[PREACHERS,KENNEL]

i own 2 dogs right now that have never ran trash .. both will tattle .. have sold pups out of those dog that havent trashed at least yet. but i own one out of thatcross that loves a fox lol. however he pays for it everytime..a trashproof line i dont thionk so but there are some out of good breeding from the patch line that just naturally dont run anything but a rabbit i aint seen that in other lines probably are some i just aint seen it.

[flash]

I saw steve w mention his dog not running a cat . Man I have a 4 year old male that will go clear stupid on a cat he has ran a couple of them down and it wasn't good for the cats . Whats up with that?

[bucks better beagles]

I hunt with everyone. I have heard many people say they have broke dogs and even born deer proof. However, I have never seen one in reality. If I had a dollar for every dog I have purchased that someone told me wouldn't run deer but did, I could, perhaps, buy a dog that wouldn't run deer.

I bring up this thought; I hunt in areas where deer outnumber rabbits by about 10 to 1 and I hunt at night. I think it is more probably under this scenario to run deer than one who hunts primarily during the day and in areas with plenty rabbits. Dogs that are initially exposed to rabbits are easier to break than ones are initially exposed to trash.

I had an old friend who once said, "if your dog has never run a deer, how do you know he won't". This seemed quite Zen like to me.

Bob-Michigan

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

Although rare, they do exist.

[Tnrabbit]

Although rare, they do exist.

these are the dogs that a person would start trying to linebreed from to create a "semi pure" line that did not chase off game.

it can be done just how bad does someone want to do it .

[don nash]

NO SUCH THING!!!

[PREACHERS,KENNEL]

COME ON DOWN DON I'LL SHOW YA A COUPLE .. and i;ll give ya phone number of others from this same line that in their whole life never rann off game!