SO =WHAT=DID YOU EXPECT=

[Pine Mt Beagles]

SO WE EXPECTED= WHAT= FROM THE REPUBLICAN'S
==!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
=WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN SOCIAL SECURITY
=WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN MEDICAR=
=WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT =SMALL BUSINESS'S =NEEDED THE 35% TAX BREAK'S.TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR EMPLOYEE'S
=WHO BELIEVE IT IS GOOD =BUSINESS= TO SEND JOB'S OVER SEA'S TO CHEAP LABOR.
=WHO BELIEVE A =CHILD BORN= WITH A DISEASE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE HEALTH CARE.
=WHO BELIEVE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ROB PEOPLE WITH OUT A GUN=
=WHO THINK POOR PEOPLE AND MIDDLE CLASS ARE INFERIOR=
=WHO THINK SICK PEOPLE ARE FREE LOADER'S
=WHO THINK ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS NOT CAUSING SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC PROBLEMMS SINCE THEY SEND THEIR MONEY HOME=
=THE PARTY OF NO TO THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM
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=BUT=THE THING IS THERE IS NO REPUBLICAN PARTY =AT LEAST ONES WHO HAVE THE SAME =COMMITMENT=MORAL FIBER=AND COMPASION=THE HAVE TURNED TO= HATE=AND RACIST=WITH O REGARD FOR THE PEOPLE OR POINT OF LAW=

Obama Needs To Remind America That Dems Gave Them Social Security and Medicare Over GOP Opposition

By M.J. Rosenberg - September 10, 2009, 8:00AM
I wonder how many Americans know that a Democrat. FDR, created Social Security over the objections of Republicans. Or that LBJ created Medicare over the objection of Republicans, with the 1964 Presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater, calling it "socialized medicine."

But Obama rarely mentions it.

Yes, he alludes to previous efforts to enact health reform but obliquely, without driving home the point that today's battle between Democrats and rightwing Republicans is part of an old struggle. .

After all, one cannot assume the American people know any of this. Republicans make it seem that they were put on earth to defend Social Security and Medicare.And Obama lets them get away with it.

Maybe polling shows that Americans no longer know who Roosevelt was or care. Maybe it shows that even referring to the origins of Medicare will remind Americans about LBJ and Vietnam.

But I doubt it. There is something peculiar about invoking Reagan while ignoring our Democratic heroes including the last Democrats to fight the health care bale, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Barack Obama is a Democrat and it was the Democrats who gave us all the progressive reforms of the last hundred years (TR was the last GOP progressive and he left office in
1909).

You know that bumper sticker the labor movement puts out: "Labor Unions: The People Who Gave You The Weekend."

That is the approach the Democrats need to take.

"The Democrats: The People Who Gave You Social Security and Medicare DESPITE Republican Opposition."

How can it hurt? We should not be ashamed of our brand. The Republicans should be but they aren't.
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=SHAMEFULL=

[2500 HD]

I expected all the elected officials that had a spine in their body to pass legislation that is legal and honest in the right direction for the country as a whole, so "we the people" could benefit from..... NOT CROOKED, BACK STABBING, GO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, BRIBING, CONIEVING, LIEING, UNCONSTITUIONAL, PIECE OF SH*T THAT ISN"T WORTH THE PAPER IT WAS PRINTED ON!!!!!!!!!!! Pretty sad that they passed a bill, and then had to pass a bill to fix some of the problems it has on the same night. WHAT A BUNCH OF CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't even know what is in it!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody needs to give mr pres. a Monica Lewinski, so we can IMPEACH HIM!!!!!!!!!

[NCSportsman]

Dems also created Welfare, Food Stamps, Section 8 housing, ect... How's that helping us?

I don't think the majority of America is against reform, they are against the way the dems went about it with: buying of votes, backdoor deals, no transparency, ect...

I'm all about helping my fellow American when in need, I just don't want to help anyone that won't help themselves.

[2500 HD]

Let me get this straight......we passed a health care
plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't
understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts
themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also is exempt

from it and hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered
by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a

surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

What next bar codes for identification

I can see why they got people like Pine Mnt Brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP. THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BILL IS JUNK. THE PROCESS TO ENACT IT IS CORRUPT. TO THINK 34 DEMOCRATS VOTED WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND THE BILL IS SO BAD NOT ONE (NOT ONE) REPUBLICAN SUPPORTED IT.

I CHALLENGE YOU OR CHIEF TO SHOW ME A FINANCIAL STUDY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID ON THE COST OF THE U.S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND BREAK IT DOWN BY ENTITY NOT JUST A GENERIC NUMBER OR HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS ENTITLEMENT. UNEMPLOYMENT IS RISING REVENUES ARE DECREASING, SO WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS!!

IN CASE YOU ARE LIVING IN A CAVE SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE ARE IN THE RED AND THE U.S IS 13 TRILLION IN THE RED SO I WILL SAY AGAIN SHOW ME HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS NEW ENTITLEMENT.

IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DON'T WASTE MY TIME WITH YOUR BULL$HIT, TWILIGHT ZONE, FANTASY ISLAND, PATHETIC RHETORIC.

IT'S ONE THING TO BELIEVE YOUR POSITION, IT'S ANOTHER TO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LIES.

[Newt]

Al Sharpton said Americans voted for Socialism when the voted for Obama. I suppose he has been talking to Pine Mountain.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

C=B=O=
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=WONDER WHY REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT =CHILDREN BORN= WITH A DISEASE TO HAVE HEALTH CARE=
=
=AFTER ALL SUMMER OF= LYING =CHEATING= RIOTING=NAME CALLING=COMPLETELY MISDIRECTING THE ENTIRE FACT'S=AMERICAN'S SAW THROUGH THE BULL=!!
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=WE HAVE A SENATE AND A HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE'S=ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT US=THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO =WORK TOGETHER FOR WHAT THE THE PEOPLE NEED AND THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY ,AND IT HAS ALWAY'S WORKED THAT WAY UNTIL NOW= THE REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN'S DESERTED US=AND FOLLOWED A FEW RIGHT WING NUT'S AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM=EVEN YESTERDAY THEY WERE STILL FOLLOWING THEM EVEN THOUGH=THEY WERE CALLING OFFICIALS OF OUR GOVERNMENT WHO WE VOTED FOR =EVERY HATE FULL AND RACIST SLUR THEY COULD=AND ONLY ==ONE== REPUBLICAN=REMEMBERED THIS IS AMERICA=AND SPOKE OUT AGAINST THESE NUT'S==

[2500 HD]

C=B=O=
=
=WONDER WHY DEMOCRATSS DON'T WANT =CHILDREN BORN= WITH A DISEASE TO HAVE HEALTH CARE=
=
=AFTER ALL SUMMER OF= LYING =CHEATING= RIOTING=NAME CALLING=COMPLETELY MISDIRECTING THE ENTIRE FACT'S=AMERICAN'S SAW THROUGH THE BULL=!!
=
=WE HAVE A SENATE AND A HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE'S=ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT US=THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO =WORK TOGETHER FOR WHAT THE THE PEOPLE NEED AND THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY ,AND IT HAS ALWAY'S WORKED THAT WAY UNTIL NOW= THE DEOCRAT POLITICIAN'S DESERTED US=AND FOLLOWED LEFT WING NUT'S AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM=EVEN YESTERDAY THEY WERE STILL FOLLOWING THEM EVEN THOUGH=THEY WERE CALLING OFFICIALS OF OUR GOVERNMENT WHO WE VOTED FOR =EVERY HATE FULL AND RACIST SLUR THEY COULD=AND ONLY ==THIRTY FOUR== DEMOCRATS=REMEMBERED THIS IS AMERICA=AND SPOKE OUT AGAINST THESE NUT'S==

Your keyboard got all jammed up so I fixed you post for you Nut Job!!!!!!!!!

[Tim H]

=WE HAVE A SENATE AND A HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE'S=ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT US=THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO =WORK TOGETHER FOR WHAT THE THE PEOPLE NEED AND THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY ,AND IT HAS ALWAY'S WORKED THAT WAY UNTIL NOW

That much is true. What was done Sunday to change it was the Liberal Democrats. PMB, I know that making sense is not something you ever care to do, so this post will get just as jumbled in your head as everything else is, but some people don't see this as a democrat/republican issue. It is an American issue and should not have been ripped out of their hands to please the extremist in one party, when clearly the American people were against it. All your rhetoric about the republicans needs to be applied to the 30+ democrats who voted against this bill right along side of the republicans.

What you fail to see is there was a Bi-Partisan OPPOSITION to this bill.

Let me hear what you think about those do nothing Democrats who opposed this bill.

[bluegrass]

Here you go Rufus..some people who think just like you do....http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7281166/





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Having insurance 'going to be like Christmas'


Posted: 6:16 p.m. yesterday
Updated: 7:00 p.m. yesterday

Durham, N.C. — Uninsured Triangle residents said Monday that they eagerly await the overhaul of the nation's health care system.

"It's just going to be like Christmas," said DeCarlo Flythe, who lost health coverage for his family when he was laid off almost three years ago. "It's going to be great. You know, no worries (about) the bills. We are going to go ahead and pay our co-pay and be alright."

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Flythe, a diabetic, said he checked into buying a policy for his family, but he couldn't afford it. He recently landed another job, but the new benefits haven't kicked in yet.

"I worry day to day, honestly," he said. "I pray to make sure my child or my wife don't' get sick because, if they go to the hospital, we are looking at a couple of thousand (dollars in bills)."

Flythe was among the patients Monday at the Walltown Clinic, a joint program of Duke University and Lincoln Community Health Center that serves the low-income neighborhoods near Duke's campus. The clinic serves 3,000 to 4,000 patients a year – 80 percent don't have health insurance – and charges co-pays based on what patients can afford.

"People will come in and say, 'I suddenly don't have a job. I've lost my insurance. Can you help me?'" said Kaity Granda, a physician's assistant at the clinic.

Norman Rucker said he hasn't had health insurance in almost 10 years because his employers haven't offered it.

"I'm not a person who gets sick a lot, so I didn't think I'd need any medicine," said Rucker, who racked up about $100,000 in hospital bills over that period by going to the emergency room whenever he needed care. "I'm trying to pay them off. Collection agencies call me all the time."

Rucker's wife has insurance, but the couple couldn't afford to put him on the policy. Now, he's excited he may also have coverage because of health care reform.

"It'll make the world better. It'll make us all better, actually," he said.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by Rabbithoundjb on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:16 pm

PMB YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP. THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BILL IS JUNK. THE PROCESS TO ENACT IT IS CORRUPT. TO THINK 34 DEMOCRATS VOTED WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND THE BILL IS SO BAD NOT ONE (NOT ONE) REPUBLICAN SUPPORTED IT.
=
=LIKE I SAID =REPUBLICAN'S DON'T= THINK CHILDREN BORN WITH A DISEASE SHOULD BE ALLOWED INSURANCE=OR IF YOU GET CANCER THEY((REPUBLICAN'S)) THINK =THE INSURANCE COMPANIES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CANCEL YOU=
=THERE IS A LOT MOPRE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS BILL =BUT= YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FOUNDATION TO BUILD A HOUSE=
=JUST THINK WHAT A BILL WE COULD GOTTEN HAD THE REPUBLICAN'S=NOT= BEEN ON =STRIKE=

=THE REPUBLICAN'S= WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE BILL= BECAUSE IT WAS =GOOD OR BAD= THEY DID =NOT= SUPPORT ANY BILL= BECAUSE THEY SAID LAST YEAR THEY WOULD SEE THIS= PRESIDENT= FAIL THUS =AMERICA FAIL===EVEN AFTER THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS PUT THE TAX BREAKS FOR SMALL BUSINESS IN THE LIKE REPUBLICAN'S THEY DID THE REPUBLICAN SHUFFLE BACKWARD AND STILL WERE AGAINST THE BILL==THAT IS NOT BI=PARTISAN=THE ONLY PEOPLE REACHING ACROSS THE ISLE WERE THE PRESIDENT AND DEMOCRAT'S=THE REPUBLICAN'S WERE A=W=O=L=.BUT STILL GOT PAID=
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=by Newt on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:43 pm

Al Sharpton said Americans voted for Socialism when the voted for Obama. I suppose he has been talking to Pine Mountain.
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=SHOW ME= A TIME SINCE 1935 AMERICA= DID NOT HAVE A PART OF IT THAT= LEANED TOWARD = SOCIALISM=ACTUALY SHOW ME A TIME SPAN SINCE ABE LINCOLN=
=
=Ideas and Movements, 1850-Present
Roots of socialism in America

The roots of socialism in America can be traced to the arrival of German immigrants in the 1850s when Marxian socialist unions began, such as the National Typographic Union in 1852, United Hatters of 1856, and Iron Moulders' Union of North America in 1859. Theodore H. White, author of Fire in the Ashes: Europe in Mid-Century (1953) wrote, "Socialism is the belief and the hope that by proper use of government power, men can be rescued from their helplessness in the wild cycling cruelty of depression and boom."
Progress of socialism

The Socialist Party in America was born and grew dramatically between 1900 and 1912. Under the charismatic leadership of Eugene V. Debs in 1912, 160 councilmen, 145 aldermen, one congressman, and 56 mayors, including Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Berkeley, California, and Schenectady, New York, were elected as Socialists. At the time, Socialists published 300 newspapers, including the Appeal of Reason, which was a Kansas-based publication with 700,000 subscribers. Membership in the Socialist Party totaled 125,000.
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=JUST SO YOU KNOW =SOCIALISM= HAS BEEN A PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY==BUT HECK=YOU KNEW THAT =ALRREADY=BUT THE ONLY TIME YOU REMEMBER IT IS WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT GOING YOUR WAY=

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB the same bull$hit spews from your mouth= lies. It is amazing that there was bipartisan opposition to that government power grab and pure partisan approval. That of itself speaks for the bill.

I laugh at you logic or lack there of, there have always been murders too but that don't make them exceptable.

The bill past so time will be the judge, I hope I'm wrong but if your wrong the future of these kids your worried about insurance for will be the least of their worries.

Another bankrupt entitlement but this time large enough to destroy the country. Just imagine NO one with insurance because the industrial structure of the country has left, the wealth of the country is gone. You and your stifle the wealthy have won and everybody else has lost. Of couse you have lost too your just not smart enough to know it or accountable enough for your actions to admit it. It will always be someone else or somrthing elses fault.

[tommyg]

Rufus wants something for nothing,plain and simple.He will find out nothing is free.This bill will stifle America to the point that it will be a 3rd world nation.Obama has already managed to pretty much loose our triple a bond rateing,the world wants another currency to be the standard not the dollar,yep Rufus you can be proud you helped bring her down.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by Rabbithoundjb on Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:32 am

PMB the same bull$hit spews from your mouth= lies. It is amazing that there was bipartisan opposition to that government power grab and pure partisan approval. That of itself speaks for the bill.

I laugh at you logic or lack there of, there have always been murders too but that don't make them exceptable.

The bill past so time will be the judge, I hope I'm wrong but if your wrong the future of these kids your worried about insurance for will be the least of their worries.

Another bankrupt entitlement but this time large enough to destroy the country. Just imagine NO one with insurance because the industrial structure of the country has left, the wealth of the country is gone. You and your stifle the wealthy have won and everybody else has lost. Of couse you have lost too your just not smart enough to know it or accountable enough for your actions to admit it. It will always be someone else or somrthing elses fault.
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=THE BIPARTISAN B.S. YOU ARE ALKING ABOUT WERE THE ==CONGRESS OWNED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES LIKE THEIR REPUBLICAN FRIEND'S=THEY ARRE A DISGRACE TO AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM=
=
=I WATCHED THE SENATE DEBATE SOME TODAY ON C-SPAN IT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING HOW REPUBLICAN'S CAN TALK ABOUT TAKING FROM CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY THEY HAVE NO SHAME NO SOUL THEY MUST BE DEAD INSIDE I HAVE NEVER WATCHED SO MUCH HATE FOR ONE'S FELLOW MAN BEFORE=EXCEPT MAYBE SUNDAY=WHEN THE REPUBLICAN'S WERE SLINGING ALL THEIR RACIAL SLURS AND MANY OTHER THINGS THIS IS 2010=NOT THE 50'S OR 60'S =JUST SAD=
=
=AS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURE OF THIS COUNTRY LEAVING=MAN IT'S ALREADY GONE======I HAD TO HAVE A PUMP FOR THE WASHING MACHINE,LAST WEEK =MADE IN MEXICO=HAD TO HAVE A MOTOR AND PUMP FOR THE HOT TUB SPA IN THE SCREEN ROOM= MADE IN MEXICO=DOES AMERICA MAKE ANYTHING HERE,ANYMORE===!!!!!
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=TALK ABOUT MURDER=REPUBLICAN'S YELL =BABY KILLER=BUT= PUSH HARD TO LET= AMERICAN'S DIE= FOR LACK OF HEALTH CARE===H=I=P=P=O=C=R=I=T='=S==PLAIN AND SIMPLE===WHY NOT HELP BOTH=

[2500 HD]

AS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURE OF THIS COUNTRY LEAVING=MAN IT'S ALREADY GONE======I HAD TO HAVE A PUMP FOR THE WASHING MACHINE,LAST WEEK =MADE IN MEXICO=HAD TO HAVE A MOTOR AND PUMP FOR THE HOT TUB SPA IN THE SCREEN ROOM= MADE IN MEXICO=DOES AMERICA MAKE ANYTHING HERE,ANYMORE===!!!!!

As always it's all about you..... Not AMERICA!!!!!!!! Things are gonna get bad now... real bad.... INFLATION like we have never seen before... South Africa ain't nothing!!!!!!!!!!!