How Would You have voted

[TC]

If We had been Given An Option how would you have Voted on the health care Bill?
You Can Explain Your Answers if you Want..

[Rabbithoundjb]

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

The country is 13 trillion in debt and the interest on that is mounting faster than a 1st time stud dog, the government entitlement programs we already have are in debt and hey we will just start another trillion dollar entitlement. BUDGET BAFOONS!!!!!!!!!!

A POWER GRAB PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

[bluegrass]

If I were an elected official I would have voted the way my CONSTITUENTS said they wanted me to vote. The problem is that too many of them (Stupak amongst others) voted AGAINST the wishes of their constituency. This should be evident in the fall elections. However, I would have ran a campaign as a fiscal conservative, and since NOTHING in this bill even hints at fiscal conservatism I would have been compelled to vote against it, unless by some miracle all my constituents decided to lose their minds all at once and wanted me to vote FOR this crap....




Tony

[Pine Mt Beagles]

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

The country is 13 trillion in debt and the interest on that is mounting faster than a 1st time stud dog, the government entitlement programs we already have are in debt and hey we will just start another trillion dollar entitlement. BUDGET BAFOONS!!!!!!!!!!

A POWER GRAB PLAIN AND SIMPLE.Rabbithoundjb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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by bluegrass on Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:47 am

If I were an elected official I would have voted the way my CONSTITUENTS said they wanted me to vote. The problem is that too many of them (Stupak amongst others) voted AGAINST the wishes of their constituency. This should be evident in the fall elections. However, I would have ran a campaign as a fiscal conservative, and since NOTHING in this bill even hints at fiscal conservatism I would have been compelled to vote against it, unless by some miracle all my constituents decided to lose their minds all at once and wanted me to vote FOR this crap....

Tony
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=NOTHING TO DO WITH A POWER GRAB=THAT IS JUST SILLY= BOEHNER ,MC CONNEL AND THE REST=ARE TWO FACED IDIOT'S=
=RABBITHOUND AT LEAST YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION==NO==EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHY=
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=SO I GUESS YOU GUY'S STILL DON'T LIKE =SICK CHILDREN OR =SICK OLD PEOPLE===BUT ==REMEMBER IF YOU ARE LUCKY YOU WILL BE OLD ONE DAY==I HOPE NOT SICK=I DON'T WISH THAT ON= NO ONE=BUT= I THINK EVERY ONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE BILL SHOULD BE ===TAKEN===NOT ASKED TO GO= TO ONE OF MANY HOSPITAL'S= AND MADE TO SIT BY A CHILD OR PARENT =WITH CANCER =AND WATCH THEM DIE =AND THEN EXPLAIN WHY= WELL= THEY COULD HAVE LIVED =IF= THEY HAD HEALTH INSURANCE =BUT=I HAD INSURANCE FOR 25 YEARS= UNTIL MY SON OR DAUGHTER OR PARENT= GOT CANCER =THEN THE INSURANCE COMPANY CANCELED OUR POLICY===BUT= WELL UH=THAT IS SURE TOUGH =REPUBLICAN'S ==
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=I THINK= THE= FOX TERRORIST=BUNCH= AND THE REPUBLICANS =TERRORIZING= THE REAL AMERICAN'S WHO HELPED PEOPLE=DEATH THREAT'S =ETC..

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB I take offense to your implication that I or anybody else on here wish harm to children or sick young or old people. You seem to believe you have the market cornered on life experiences. You still haven't explained how this will be paid for or how we are going to get out of the debt we are already in.

Now don't assume you know what I have experienced, I watched my dad die with lung cancer you jackass and I watched my grand-dad die with colon cancer and there was nothing pleasent about either. My dad did live longer than they gave him, his treatment was fine. All that could be done was and he couldn't have lived any longer if Obama would have been managing his treatment, in fact when he passed I was glad he didn't have to suffer any longer. My grand-dad was bed ridden for the longest time and died a horrible death ampitated both legs but those life experiences doesn't make me abandon the lessons both of them taught me about money. Both of them believed if you couldn't pay for it you didn't need it, if you could ask my wife she would tell you when I married her the credit cards got the scissors. We own everything on this property except our house, every vehicle I have bought but 2 where mine when I left the lot.

You really have become extremely self endulging with the idea your the only one that understands suffering and that idea somehow makes you an expert.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Rabbithoundjb on Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:55 pm

PMB I take offense to your implication that I or anybody else on here wish harm to children or sick young or old people. You seem to believe you have the market cornered on life experiences. You still haven't explained how this will be paid for or how we are going to get out of the debt we are already in.

Now don't assume you know what I have experienced, I watched my dad die with lung cancer you jackass and I watched my grand-dad die with colon cancer and there was nothing pleasent about either. My dad did live longer than they gave him, his treatment was fine. All that could be done was and he couldn't have lived any longer if Obama would have been managing his treatment, in fact when he passed I was glad he didn't have to suffer any longer. My grand-dad was bed ridden for the longest time and died a horrible death ampitated both legs but those life experiences doesn't make me abandon the lessons both of them taught me about money. Both of them believed if you couldn't pay for it you didn't need it, if you could ask my wife she would tell you when I married her the credit cards got the scissors. We own everything on this property except our house, every vehicle I have bought but 2 where mine when I left the lot.

You really have become extremely self endulging with the idea your the only one that understands suffering and that idea somehow makes you an expert.
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=I DON'T INTEND -TO OFFEND ===YOU==BUT THE FACT'S ARE STILL THERE=I DID NOT SAY REPUBLICAN'S AS A WHOLE I SAID REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN'S THAT WERE NOT DOING WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED AND TOOK AN OATH TO DO=AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT= NOW THEY ARE =TERRORIZING= THE THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED YOU AND ME AND AMERICA===PEOPLE LIKE NAZI BECK LYING PALIN JOHN BOEHNER=MC CAIN = WITH DEATH THREAT'S ETC.THEY SHOULD BE IN GITMO=WITH THE REST OF THE TERRORIST=
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=FIRST OFF I DON'T GIVE== A HOOP OR HOLLER HOW THEY PAY FOR IT ==!!!!!--I BELIEVE IN ===PAY AS YOU GO ===BUT===A COUNTRY THAT BORROW'S MONEY TO FIGHT TWO WAR'S ==WITH NO INTENTION OF WINNING EITHER=AND GIVE COMPANIES TAX BREAKES TO TAKE =JOB'S= OVER SEA'S AND MORE TAX BREAK'S WHEN THEY BRING GOOD'S BACK==CAN DARN SURE TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE PAYING THE BILL'S===AND= DON'T YOU HOPE THROUGH= NEW MEDICAL SCIENCE=AND PREVENTIVE HEALTH CARE= THAT OTHER'S WANT HAVE TO ENDURE WHAT YOU AND I HAVE==I KNOW I DO=
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=YOU SAY I'AM=extremely self endulging ==YOU HAVE NEVER MET= ME =OR YOU WOULD KNOW I'AM =THE LEAST =SELF= INDULGING PERSON YOU HAVE =NEVER MET=I ASK FOR NOTHING AND GIVE MORE THAN I CAN=I SUPPLIED KEROSENE AND A HEATER FOR A FAMILY THIS WINTER THEY WERE IN HARD TIMES=AND FOOD AND CLOTHES=I BELIEVE IN THE OLD AMERICAN CUSTOM= HELP= EACH OTHER NOT =TAKE= TAKE =TAKE=
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=NOW I ALSO WATCHED MY GRAND FATHER DIE SLOW IN BED AT OUR HOUSE=AND MY OTHER GARND FATHER AND BOTH GRAND MOTHER'S I SIT WITH MY= MOTHER AFTER BOTH HER LEG'S WERE =AMPITATED=I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH AND I AM= SORRY BEYOND WORD'S FOR WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH=I FEEL THE PAIN=IT HURT'S JUST TO REMEMBER=DON'T IT =
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=I ALSO OWN MY HOME AND HAVE FOR SOME TIME AND WORKED HARD FOR IT =SOMETIMES IN COAL THAT WAS =BARLEY (19) INCHES HIGH =BACK TOUCHING THE TOP STOMACH RUBBING THE BOTTOM==NO I'AM NOT COMPLAINING= I= PICKED THAT CAREER AND = KNEW IT WOULD SHORTEN MY LIFE ,BUT JOB'S WERE HARD TO FIND I HAD A FAMILY AND IT PAYED GOOD=SO THAT IS LIFE==
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=IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS HEALTH CARE BILL THEN IT IS SIMPLE=======YOU ARE AGAINST CHILDREN BORN WITH A DISEASE =GETTING INSURANCE==AND YOU ARE FOR PEOPLE GETTING THEIR INSURANCE TAKEN AWAY AFTER THEY FIND THEY HAVE A LIFE THREATENING DISEASE===THERE IS JUST NO DENING THAT==ALSO CUT'S FOR SMALLBUSINESS=SOMETHING YOU GUY'S WERE JUST FUSSING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS RUN THE COUNTRY YET REPUBLICAN(((POLITICIAN'S))) DON'T WANT TO HELP THEM=JUST TO MENTION HOW IT WILL BE PAID FOR IS OFFENSIVE IN IT'S SELF ...WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT THIS COUNTRY THROW'S MONEY AT===
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=ONCE AGAIN= I'AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS=I HAVE SIT THERE MYSELF AND WORD'S CANNOT DESCRIBE THAT FEELING OF HELP LESSNESS===GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR'S
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[Rabbithoundjb]

YOU DON'T CARE HOW THEY PAY FOR IT, THAT EXPLAINS A LOT. YOU CALL YOURSELF AN INDEPENDENT WITH CONSERVATIVES VIEWS, NOW THERES A JOKE !!!!!!! FACT IS YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE OBAMA HASN'T TOLD YOU BECAUSE HE DON'T KNOW. Now I will rebut your assumption of what I am for by saying if you are FOR this bill you are for death panels for the elderly, current treatment for seniors to be cut, no future for the youth in this country that you try to imply you are so worried about, no real healthcare for anyone in the future, a bankrupt country that provides NO oppertunity to anyone. Taxing future generations to the point they have much less than this generation and I could keep going. Not only can the government or truthfully the tax payer not pay for this but when they pass the immagration reform they will add 7 million more basically free recipients on the tax payer teat.

THE FACT IS WHEN THE MONEY ISN'T THERE TO FUND THIS THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO THE SAME THING BUISNESSES DO, START CUTTING PEOPLE, NOT TREATING THIS, NOT MEDICATING THAT AND SO ON. CUT, CUT, CUT TIL NOONE HAS ANY REAL HEALTHCARE.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Rabbithoundjb on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:44 pm

YOU DON'T CARE HOW THEY PAY FOR IT, THAT EXPLAINS A LOT. YOU CALL YOURSELF AN INDEPENDENT WITH CONSERVATIVES VIEWS, NOW THERES A JOKE !!!!!!! FACT IS YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE OBAMA HASN'T TOLD YOU BECAUSE HE DON'T KNOW. Now I will rebut your assumption of what I am for by saying if you are FOR this bill you are for death panels for the elderly, current treatment for seniors to be cut, no future for the youth in this country that you try to imply you are so worried about, no real healthcare for anyone in the future, a bankrupt country that provides NO oppertunity to anyone. Taxing future generations to the point they have much less than this generation and I could keep going. Not only can the government or truthfully the tax payer not pay for this but when they pass the immagration reform they will add 7 million more basically free recipients on the tax payer teat.

THE FACT IS WHEN THE MONEY ISN'T THERE TO FUND THIS THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO THE SAME THING BUISNESSES DO, START CUTTING PEOPLE, NOT TREATING THIS, NOT MEDICATING THAT AND SO ON. CUT, CUT, CUT TIL NOONE HAS ANY REAL HEALTHCARE.
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=SO OF ALL THE= B.S. BILL'S YOU HAVE WATCHED = PASSED THE LAST NINE(9) YEARS UNFUNDED ==THIS BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT IN DECADES IS GOING TO DO ALL THAT==
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=I SEE YOU SAYING MY BEING INDEPENDENT WITH CONSERVATIVE VIEW'S IS A JOKE ===TYPICAL RESPONCE BY SOME ONE WHO DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER=.==
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=DO YOU REMEMBER THE 2008 WALL STREET BAIL OUT==OR THE STIMULAS BILL =OR CASH FOR CLUNKER'S=IF I REMEMBER YOU WERE AGAINST ALL OF THEM EXCEPT THE 2008 WALL STREET BAIL OUT==I COULD BE WRONG IF SO I APPOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE=
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WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS OF WHAT PRIORITIES ARE OR SHOULD BE FOR THE COUNTRY=
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=AND IF THE MONEY DRIES UP =THIS BILL= WILL BE THE LAST THING WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT=

[Newt]

Pine Mountain is not the only one. The democrats are birds of a feather. Ugh, excuse me, some independents have similar thought patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woBC5b3T ... re=related

[Rabbithoundjb]

I remember all of them and I was against all of them. And what I said was you CLAIMING to be independent with conservative views is a joke.

If what money dries up, the country is 13 trillion in debt. WHAT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't have an answer, oh I forget you always have the answer and if you don't you will make something up or hey you just don't care.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Rabbithoundjb on Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:06 pm

I remember all of them and I was against all of them. And what I said was you CLAIMING to be independent with conservative views is a joke.

If what money dries up, the country is 13 trillion in debt. WHAT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't have an answer, oh I forget you always have the answer and if you don't you will make something up or hey you just don't care.
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=GOOD ONE =BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE===
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=Now let’s take a look at the facts. We’ll start with national debt and raw numbers. In 2000, when Bill Clinton left office, the national debt was $5.7 trillion. Today, after seven years of George W. Bush, it is $9.6 trillion. Bush has almost doubled our national debt in eight short years.
But let’s go further back and take a look at the average increases in national debt by president. It is most useful to look at the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP). GDP is the total market value of all final goods and services produced within the country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). Since 1945, there have been seven presidential terms held by Democrats and nine held by Republicans. During every term held by a Democratic president since this time, that president has reduced the national debt as a percentage of GDP. The Roosevelt/Truman administration made the greatest dent with a 24.3% reduction. By contrast, only three terms held by a Republican president since 1945 showed a reduction in the national debt as a percentage of GDP. Further, Eisenhower made the most significant reduction for Republicans at a 10.8% decline between 1953 and 1957. This is less than half the decline made by the Democrats Roosevelt/Truman. Even further, every single Republican president since 1973 (beginning with Nixon/Ford) has increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP. Let’s summarize: Since 1946, Democratic presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.2% per year. The Republican presidents increased the national debt by an average of 9.7% per year. Republican presidents= out-borrowed= and out-=spent= Democratic presidents by a three-to-one ratio.=
=Putting that in very real terms, for every dollar a Democratic president has raised the national debt in the past 59 years, Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.99
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=SO LET'S SEE=WHO IS RESPONSABLE==FOR OUR CURRENT PROBLEM ==OH YEA PRESIDENT ==OBAMA==REPUBLICAN==SELECTIVE MEMORY ==SAD===IT IS EASY TO SEE =REPUBLICAN'S=SURE DON'T CARE HOW ANYTHING===THEY WANT===GET'S PAID FOR JUST CHARGE IT TO OUR CHILDREN THAT'S THE =REPUBLICAN WAY====

[bluegrass]

Rabbithoundjb on Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:06 pm

I remember all of them and I was against all of them. And what I said was you CLAIMING to be independent with conservative views is a joke.

If what money dries up, the country is 13 trillion in debt. WHAT MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't have an answer, oh I forget you always have the answer and if you don't you will make something up or hey you just don't care.
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=GOOD ONE =BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE===
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=Now let’s take a look at the facts. We’ll start with national debt and raw numbers. In 2000, when Bill Clinton left office, the national debt was $5.7 trillion. Today, after seven years of George W. Bush, it is $9.6 trillion. Bush has almost doubled our national debt in eight short years.
But let’s go further back and take a look at the average increases in national debt by president. It is most useful to look at the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP). GDP is the total market value of all final goods and services produced within the country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). Since 1945, there have been seven presidential terms held by Democrats and nine held by Republicans. During every term held by a Democratic president since this time, that president has reduced the national debt as a percentage of GDP. The Roosevelt/Truman administration made the greatest dent with a 24.3% reduction. By contrast, only three terms held by a Republican president since 1945 showed a reduction in the national debt as a percentage of GDP. Further, Eisenhower made the most significant reduction for Republicans at a 10.8% decline between 1953 and 1957. This is less than half the decline made by the Democrats Roosevelt/Truman. Even further, every single Republican president since 1973 (beginning with Nixon/Ford) has increased the national debt as a percentage of GDP. Let’s summarize: Since 1946, Democratic presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.2% per year. The Republican presidents increased the national debt by an average of 9.7% per year. Republican presidents= out-borrowed= and out-=spent= Democratic presidents by a three-to-one ratio.=
=Putting that in very real terms, for every dollar a Democratic president has raised the national debt in the past 59 years, Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.99
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=SO LET'S SEE=WHO IS RESPONSABLE==FOR OUR CURRENT PROBLEM ==OH YEA PRESIDENT ==OBAMA==REPUBLICAN==SELECTIVE MEMORY ==SAD===IT IS EASY TO SEE =REPUBLICAN'S=SURE DON'T CARE HOW ANYTHING===THEY WANT===GET'S PAID FOR JUST CHARGE IT TO OUR CHILDREN THAT'S THE =REPUBLICAN WAY====

Once again several things have happened in this post....

1. Rufus AGAIN copies and pastes something without leaving a link to the whole story...thereby depriving us all of his infinite wisdom and internet prowess...then again he is just hiding the source of his information, which indicates its from some left leaning, in the Obambi tank libtard website.

2. Rufus AGAIN demonstrates that he has the reading comprehension of a third grader by posting a story that is THREE YEARS OLD...notice the line that says "today, after SEVEN YEARS of George W Bush"????? So that would put this story somewhere around 2007. Nice and relevant huh liberal??

3. Rufus AGAIN proves that if you offer ANY facts that paint Obambi in his true form as a Chicago thug and liar the old standby defense is going to be.....ATTACK BUSH. Hey Dufus, Bush didnt run in 2008 you know...you libtards NEVER beat him and if he could run again he would TROUNCE Obambi after this debacle...

4. And lastly, perhaps most importantly, Rufus PROVES that he is NOT an Independent as he claims (we all know thats a joke anyway) but he is a dyed in the wool, up the arse, in the tank Liberal Democrat of the worst kind...the kind that is incapable of rational thought, incapable of truth comprehension and will do whatever he is told to do by his betters...Rufus never fails to tow the Democrat party line.


Tony

[Newt]

"SO I GUESS YOU GUY'S STILL DON'T LIKE =SICK CHILDREN OR =SICK OLD PEOPLE===BUT ==REMEMBER IF YOU ARE LUCKY YOU WILL BE OLD ONE DAY[/b]"

Rufus, I guess the word never got to you, under that rock that you sleep uncer, children were not covered in that Bill.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gap-in-he ... l?x=0&.v=1
In regards to "Old People". How does cutting Medicare funding and forcing Drs out of the profession give comfort to old people.
If this bill is not repealed, and you are "old people" better find you something that alleviates pain or you are going to die a slow painful death.

Suggest that you watch the "Blithering Idiot Video" under the Intellectual thread, one more time.

[Rabbithoundjb]

WELL, WELL, WELL PMB. 1st go back to all of my posts and find one single time where I defended W's growing government or his over spending, I dare you since I am against big government and deficit spending and have posted that god knows how many times.

OH PMB, the same pathetic post. Bush did this, Bush did that and Obama is not accountable for anything. In case you are as inept as your discussions of Obama are, Obama is on track to double W's spending in his 1st term.

The extent you have went to justify Obama's actions are as pathetic as the results of his actions. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Newt]

Those capitalist Dr.s in Paducah Kentucky are turning Medicare patients away. Obama says, Aunt Etheyl, stay home and take a pain pill. Too bad the Drs don't get an automatic pay increase like our public servants in Wasington DC.

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/87869602.html