Democrats go on Vacation, Leave Unemployed to Rot

[bluegrass]

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Dems refuse compromise to extend unemployment benefits
By: Susan Ferrechio
Chief Congressional Correspondent
July 2, 2010 Congress adjourns this week for the July Fourth recess without having passed a bill to extend unemployment insurance benefits to 1.3 million people who started losing them this month.

Democrats have been painting Republicans as unsympathetic to the long-term unemployed who will be unable to collect benefits, but Democratic leaders have rejected several offers by the GOP to vote for the bill if at least some of it is paid for.

"My concern is that the Democrats are more interested in having this issue to demagogue for political gamesmanship than they are in simply passing the benefits extension," said Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, who offered a deal that was rejected by Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Democratic leaders were quick to attack Republicans for opposing the benefits, with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., calling their opposition "just cruel" and "contrary to what our country is about."

Republicans, meanwhile, stood firm in their argument that extending benefits should not add to the deficit.

Voinovich told Reid he would vote for extending benefits if at least half of the extension could be paid for with unused money from the $787 billion stimulus package.

"I came to the table with a fair compromise, and the ball is in their court," said Voinovich, whose state suffers from a 10.7 percent unemployment rate.

The House passed a sixth-month extension on Thursday, but the Senate was long gone by then, having shut down early so that the late Sen. Robert Byrd's body could lie in repose in the chamber. Any future action by the Senate will have to wait until lawmakers return on July 12.

On Wednesday, the Senate rejected a measure to extend benefits, with most Republicans and one Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., opposed to the bill because it would add more than $33 billion to the nation's $1.3 trillion deficit. The Senate came up just one vote short of passage, with Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, Maine Republicans, voting yes.

After the bill failed, Senate Minroity Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a compromise that would extend benefits for two months and pay for it fully with unused stimulus funding. But Reid turned it down.

"The only reason the unemployment extension hasn't passed is because Democrats simply refuse to pass a bill that doesn't add to the debt," McConnell said. "That's it. That's the only difference between what they've offered and what we've offered."

McConnell pointed out that earlier this month, 57 Democrats voted for an amendment offered by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., that would also have used stimulus money to pay for some of the benefits. The amendment fell three votes short of the 60 needed for passage, but Reid was among the supporters.

Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin, D-Ill., told The Washington Examiner on Thursday that unemployment benefits are considered emergency spending and do not fall under the same rules requiring them to be offset.

"We've never done it," Durbin said. "And it is counterintuitive that to stop a recession we have to take spending away from one area and put it into another. We need to put money into the economy."


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polit ... z0sXX5c1Sf





Notice Dufus that this is NOT two or three years old like the crap you post...timely, relevant and most importantly TRUE!!!!

[Collins Country]

That shows you what the demarats are up to!

[S.R.Patch]

This is why tarp was first handed out to the banks with no stipulations on how the monies could be used...
Now come on guys...
Now, all the sudden it effects people instead of business an accountability becomes important... ...of course accountability is always important but in a crisis, timing is everthing.
The crook banksters stole the money and now have been recapitalized off the backs of the tax payers, they get the money from the Fed @ 0% and buy treasuries @ 3% ,...meanwhile they won't loan and only build their coffer. They know they've got more properties coming home to roost, the tightening and the lay-offs guarantee it.

I could have almost believed this scam if it weren't for the derivatives/ bets on failure)...that pretty much exposed the whole plan. We need to know who cashed the checks!

Bev. ask me one time if I thought Business was evil, well, my answer is no, business is good...there are just evil people in business right now.

What I hear on the news now, there is so much politicing going on, on both sides. It's all about one side succeeding and the other failing, not about the Country, we are the pawns in the chess game.
I'm not cheering for either side, I know this contraction/deflation has to happen, we were living on false wealth=debt bubble. The great prosperity was only due to the free excessive lending.(I still shake my head at kids with no job and credit cards)

But in recovering, the pain need not be made worse by profiteering. jmho

[bluegrass]

Charles, this has NOTHING to do with the TARP money except for ONE THING...the Republicans proposed that we use the money that HAS NOT BEEN USED THROUGH TARP YET to fund an extension of unemployment benefits...instead the Democrats want to add it to deficit spending instead of paying for it with money already borrowed.


Reading comprehension has GOT to be improved in this forum....




Tony

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by bluegrass on Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:12 pm

Charles, this has NOTHING to do with the TARP money except for ONE THING...the Republicans proposed that we use the money that HAS NOT BEEN USED THROUGH TARP YET to fund an extension of unemployment benefits...instead the Democrats want to add it to deficit spending instead of paying for it with money already borrowed.


Reading comprehension has GOT to be improved in this forum....
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-COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULL --OF COUTRSE YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY--NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT AT ANY TIME --

[Tim H]

But in recovering, the pain need not be made worse by profiteering. jmho

Deficit spending does more damage to the economy than companies that are profiteering by making deals with this administration. Open and public Bribes by this administration with deficit money to get huge spending bills passed (Bribing Senators and Congress members to vote for the health spending bill for ONE example) is more damaging to this countries economy then some perceived notion that there is rampant profiteering going on by some companies.

I don't even see why you used the word recovery in your statement, there is no recovery right now nor in the foreseeable future.

Putting a bullet hole in someone and then trying to fill that hole with a bigger bullet is no way to help them to recover!!!!

[Tim H]

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-COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULL --OF COUTRSE YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY--NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT AT ANY TIME --

PMB, I have come to the conclusion that you have not read or comprehended ANYTHING, you or anyone else has posted on this Patriotism thread in over a year. You never address the topic and you never make any d&*@ed sense.

As TC often says

Hey RUFUS ya got yer Purple Card yet???

[Collins Country]

by bluegrass on Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:12 pm

Charles, this has NOTHING to do with the TARP money except for ONE THING...the Republicans proposed that we use the money that HAS NOT BEEN USED THROUGH TARP YET to fund an extension of unemployment benefits...instead the Democrats want to add it to deficit spending instead of paying for it with money already borrowed.


Reading comprehension has GOT to be improved in this forum....
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-COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULL --OF COUTRSE YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY--NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT AT ANY TIME --

Now, thats a LIE!

[S.R.Patch]

Charles, this has NOTHING to do with the TARP money except for ONE THING...the Republicans proposed that we use the money that HAS NOT BEEN USED THROUGH TARP YET to fund an extension of unemployment benefits...instead the Democrats want to add it to deficit spending instead of paying for it with money already borrowed.
Reading comprehension has GOT to be improved in this forum....
Tony

Tony,
Since we're all just having fun with each other here, I'd like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think you're worth...

We'll have to agree to disagree...
The tarp was approved for recapitalization of threatened institutions, not unemployment.
I have to agree with Obummer on his actions here, there are trillions of dollars of credit default swaps waiting to be triggered. You need ready capital for these type things as there's no time to go asking for more fund approval at these times.
Have a good day all...

[bluegrass]

Charles, this has NOTHING to do with the TARP money except for ONE THING...the Republicans proposed that we use the money that HAS NOT BEEN USED THROUGH TARP YET to fund an extension of unemployment benefits...instead the Democrats want to add it to deficit spending instead of paying for it with money already borrowed.
Reading comprehension has GOT to be improved in this forum....
Tony

Tony,
Since we're all just having fun with each other here, I'd like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think you're worth...

We'll have to agree to disagree...
The tarp was approved for recapitalization of threatened institutions, not unemployment.
I have to agree with Obummer on his actions here, there are trillions of dollars of credit default swaps waiting to be triggered. You need ready capital for these type things as there's no time to go asking for more fund approval at these times.
Have a good day all...

Charles, we are talking about TARP money NOT SPENT...Government should NEVER just have money (printed or borrowed) just sitting around waiting for some emergency to spend it on...that is NOT government's role, never has been until recently.

[S.R.Patch]

I agree, but these are not normal times and they can't have a "rainy day" fund like Ind. cause they spend it to fast...

I tell you the whole Country was living like that song, "Live like you were dieing", nothing wrong with enjoying your life as you go along but if not kept in balance, "Rainy days and Mondays always bring you down"...

[Newt]

Yeah! You never know when there is an emergency like obesity in the Louisiana School system.

So, I'm reading USA Today ...state section...La.:
Direct quote:
"Students at 4 Caddo Parish schools will get an extra dose of PE when classes start in Aug. The program, funded by a $472,902 federal grant will operate in conjunction with Volunteers of America's after school program at Barret and Caddo Heights elementary schools, JS Clark MS and Fair Park HS."


Volunteers of America are not teachers. They're unemployed democrats. So, the govt is gonna give HALF A MILLION DOLLARS to teach obese children how to do jumping jacks.

How many fat students do you think will even show up after the first week? Do you think the money will be returned once the kids quit.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKmc9aBELM

[Pine Mt Beagles]

PMB, I have come to the conclusion that you have not read or comprehended ANYTHING, you or anyone else has posted on this Patriotism thread in over a year. You never address the topic and you never make any d&*@ed sense.

As TC often says

Hey RUFUS ya got yer Purple Card yet???
"Watch your dog and SHUT-UP"
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-I WOULD LIKE TO SE YOUR'S AD T C'S -GREEN CARD'S ,IF YOU HAVE ONE,AS FOR MY POST'S IT IS HARD TO COMPREHEND SOMETHING ,IF YOU HAVE YOUR MIND CLOSED AS YOU DO ,AND WHEN THE 8 OR 10 OF YOU AGREE ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERY THING.WHEN YOU SEE THE FACT'S IT FREAK'S YOU OUT,JUST CANNPT RESPOND.YOU STILL BELIEVE THERE IS A REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE OUT THERE .IT'S A MYTH.---REPUBLICAN'S- INVENTED TO MAKE SURE, GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK ----EXCEPT TO GIVE THEM ,TAX CUT'S ,AND SEND JOB'S OVER SEA'S.AND START WAR'S .--------MY FAVORITE IS WHEN-REPUBLICAN'S -GET ON NATIONAL TELEVISION AND SAY -OUR- GOVERNMENT IS -BROKEN- IT DON'T WORK.--THEY --TRY TO PRETEND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT-COMPLETE IDIOT'S-OF COURSE IT'S BROKEN, THAT'S WHY THEY INVENTED, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BREAK IT.

[Collins Country]

PMB, I have come to the conclusion that you have not read or comprehended ANYTHING, you or anyone else has posted on this Patriotism thread in over a year. You never address the topic and you never make any d&*@ed sense.

As TC often says

Hey RUFUS ya got yer Purple Card yet???
"Watch your dog and SHUT-UP"
-
-I WOULD LIKE TO SE YOUR'S AD T C'S -GREEN CARD'S ,IF YOU HAVE ONE,AS FOR MY POST'S IT IS HARD TO COMPREHEND SOMETHING ,IF YOU HAVE YOUR MIND CLOSED AS YOU DO ,AND WHEN THE 8 OR 10 OF YOU AGREE ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERY THING.WHEN YOU SEE THE FACT'S IT FREAK'S YOU OUT,JUST CANNPT RESPOND.YOU STILL BELIEVE THERE IS A REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE OUT THERE .IT'S A MYTH.---REPUBLICAN'S- INVENTED TO MAKE SURE, GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK ----EXCEPT TO GIVE THEM ,TAX CUT'S ,AND SEND JOB'S OVER SEA'S.AND START WAR'S .--------MY FAVORITE IS WHEN-REPUBLICAN'S -GET ON NATIONAL TELEVISION AND SAY -OUR- GOVERNMENT IS -BROKEN- IT DON'T WORK.--THEY --TRY TO PRETEND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT-COMPLETE IDIOT'S-OF COURSE IT'S BROKEN, THAT'S WHY THEY INVENTED, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BREAK IT.

As if you and your kind are not part of the Problem!

[Collins Country]

PMB, I have come to the conclusion that you have not read or comprehended ANYTHING, you or anyone else has posted on this Patriotism thread in over a year. You never address the topic and you never make any d&*@ed sense.

As TC often says

Hey RUFUS ya got yer Purple Card yet???
"Watch your dog and SHUT-UP"
-
-I WOULD LIKE TO SE YOUR'S AD T C'S -GREEN CARD'S ,IF YOU HAVE ONE,AS FOR MY POST'S IT IS HARD TO COMPREHEND SOMETHING ,IF YOU HAVE YOUR MIND CLOSED AS YOU DO ,AND WHEN THE 8 OR 10 OF YOU AGREE ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERY THING.WHEN YOU SEE THE FACT'S IT FREAK'S YOU OUT,JUST CANNPT RESPOND.YOU STILL BELIEVE THERE IS A REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE OUT THERE .IT'S A MYTH.---REPUBLICAN'S- INVENTED TO MAKE SURE, GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK ----EXCEPT TO GIVE THEM ,TAX CUT'S ,AND SEND JOB'S OVER SEA'S.AND START WAR'S .--------MY FAVORITE IS WHEN-REPUBLICAN'S -GET ON NATIONAL TELEVISION AND SAY -OUR- GOVERNMENT IS -BROKEN- IT DON'T WORK.--THEY --TRY TO PRETEND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT-COMPLETE IDIOT'S-OF COURSE IT'S BROKEN, THAT'S WHY THEY INVENTED, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BREAK IT.

As if you and your kind are not part of the problem!