Extending unemployeement benifits???

[cojax]

hey guys i usually dont voice my opinion on politics on here but yall have a lot of good points and i do feel your pain but just think about this for a second.

1st- unemployment is not a right it is a bad program by the government that uses our money to pay people who lose their job. You are taught you are owed it because business owners pay for it (ANOTHER TAX THAT WE PAY AND THE GOVERNMENT TAKES CREDIT FOR) then the government cant manage their budget and end up taxing us more.

2nd-over 51% of your pay goes to taxes

3rd-we vote for these people

4th- the housing situation-- has anyone ever promised you a house no its the american dream right, yup but when the government gets involved and messes with free market economics guess what u get A HOUSING CRISIS (boy they must really think of us a bunch) what happened to the days when you went to the local bank and took a mort. based on your merits and not what the government thought you should have----your grandfather did it that way or better yet he probably did without until he could afford to pay for it as he went along (shotgun house)



5th- i am ready for all americans(race doesnt matter 2 me) to stop feeling sorry 4 themselves and bring about real change for america by voting these dummies out of office and putting some plumbers in D.C.


you know what just sitting here thinking about this has made me mad and the ironic part is usually i look at this board to relax and enjoy the evening. I sugg. those of you that cant find a job move to where the jobs are and leave the tax/income stealing poor ass states that are robbing u blind and go live the american dream because if you wait for the government to fix it you may never see it

cojax

[BIG ORDEAL]

Its easy to flap your gums about folks drawing unemployment and I know there are sorry azzes that take advantage of it but until it happens to you its easy to criticize.I lost my job over a year ago and still havent been hired by anyone and I have put in countless applications.I am about to lose everything I have worked for either because I cant make the payments or I will have to sell what I do own,meanwhile me and my son are living with my mother.My benefits ran out in April and it aint easy,so be very thankful you have a job.I pay into all my working life so I should be able to collect it.Not that it even is enough to keep you from worrying but it does help.If we had any kind of leader he would round up every darn illegal in this country and they are everywhere and give the people their jobs back instead of letting some of these sellouts hire and house them for cheap labor.At least if I was on a framing crew,landscaping,drywall,ect..I would be paying taxes and helping with the deficit.

[Jeremy Mapes]

Well guys I see both sides of the story. I was laid off in January of 09 due to a plant shutdown. I was then told that I could get unemployment for 2 years as long as I was in school. So I entered college immediately, only to find out a little over a year into it that I wasn't gonna get paid the whole time. Having a baby on the way I had to drop out of school and go back to work. I don't like that people sit around drawing unemployment while doing nothing. It pisses me off that people who are trying to better themselves get cut off while others have drawn for 2-3 years while doing nothing. I agree that people should get off their a**es and work when possible, but I don't see how some of you expect them to up and move their families to states with work. Did yall forget they don't have jobs, how do you expect them to pay for that?

[da ridgetop]

Its easy to flap your gums about folks drawing unemployment and I know there are sorry azzes that take advantage of it but until it happens to you its easy to criticize.I lost my job over a year ago and still havent been hired by anyone and I have put in countless applications.I am about to lose everything I have worked for either because I cant make the payments or I will have to sell what I do own,meanwhile me and my son are living with my mother.My benefits ran out in April and it aint easy,so be very thankful you have a job.I pay into all my working life so I should be able to collect it.Not that it even is enough to keep you from worrying but it does help.If we had any kind of leader he would round up every darn illegal in this country and they are everywhere and give the people their jobs back instead of letting some of these sellouts hire and house them for cheap labor.At least if I was on a framing crew,landscaping,drywall,ect..I would be paying taxes and helping with the deficit.

well said why pick on a man that worked and paid his taxes he goes to the mailbox gets $400 why would he go work for $200,i know like most other goverment programs it aint much but if you want something fixed why not fix imigration and the endless welfare line that keeps marching on! news flash if there drawing unemployment they worked somewhere and paid taxes! why dont they figure the average cost of these prisons housing and feeding 3x losers half of them illegals get off the man who's trying to works a$$. I know like everything else it gets abused but with company downsizing/moving to mexico not everybody's a lazya$$ sometimes you got to walk in a mans shoes to fill his pain
Donald

[cojax]

hey guys i understand the argument but like i stated earlier wait for your government to fix it and see what what you get I moved from ny state because when i graduated college i took a job delivering auto parts for napa for 4.25 a hour and couldnt even make the payments for my student loan. Sad part is before i went to school i was a journeyman plumber making $12 an hour and this was a job i took when i was 15 and worked until i was 19 and moved from my hometown to go to school now i didnt wait for the government to save me i made an educated choice (its great to be an american) and moved. now i left a state that taxed you to death (cigs were 3.10 a pack when i left because of taxes) and moved to a place with no state income tax, a 4% unemployment rate instead of 12% and cigs were 1.25 a pack you see i wanted change but i am not relying on the goverment to fix it for me i am still glad i quit smoking its bad for your health and i am not going to expect the government to take good care of me


I dont disagree with anything you guys have mentioned but you are an american free will free choice all the things our vets have sacrificed for us to have these freedoms i suggest you use them. CHANGE IS AN OPTION LETS SEND THESE DUMMIES HOME AND RUN THIS COUNTRY THE WAY ARE FOREFATHERS WANTED.... OR YOU CAN SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR YOUR GOVERNMENT TO FIX IT AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. JMO COJAX

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Everyone brings great points.Dave glad maybe the ship has come in for ya. Trent i really dont have a love for bunning, just think like him on this ,where is the money coming from ? We cant grow dope they aint figured out how too tax it, so the outlaws will always survive, Ya know the working man really does not have a prayer in kentucky so in all honesty why work. 51% taxes in my case just aint appealing when i could get a check for just as much,Granted i will always work as long as i am healthy and have too which at this point appears too be forever. This is a great post because peoples true colors show . Here are mine.I got a friend that is a 3rd generation welfare liftime check drawer yes i did say 3rd generation. He lives a hell of a lot better than me and grows dope for cash while all the time living in a 250000.00 home,so where did i fudge up? Doesnt my hard earn money pay welfare azz clowns, its abused and misused and a flat out joke in kentucky .I know it and so do you. Why dont they get drug tested randomly? Hell i do. Last time i drove thru eastern ky and the rest of the state there is a shitz load of trash they could pick up, whatever.When our dumazz goverment pays generation after generation to sit home then theres a problem.Some need it most dont, they get pills buy a script writing dr only to quadruple there money/ On to unemployment there is jobs in kentucky, dont kid urself coal is the cheapest form of energy in the world and it turns on about 50% of the us, its here to stay.Just dirty energy why worry about the ozone now, we gotta have it.I am pretty sorry to admit i am a democrat, There all jacknuts and lie the whole time they are there. I just dont think its fair to always cripple the middle class working man, thats all of us.So whats the answer? I dunno but i promise this its getting closer everyday, Keep ur ears to the ground and ur eyes to the sky, We aint seen bad yet but shes a coming.

[Bobby Vest]

God only knows if our leaders don't seriously do something to create jobs it's going to be disastrous. The only difference between a recession and a depression is, recession is when your next door neighbor is laid off and depression is when you are laid off.

[jeff m]

Guys I lost my job back in april of 09,and I,ve been looking for over a year,there just isn't work out there,I,ve been to employment agencies,sending resumes,walking in to places,its horrible,so I'm glad they,ve extended it,so with that being said,if anyone knows where I can find a job please send me the info,I,ve worked in the automotive collision repair/painter,I'm certified in all aspects of collision repair,and custom painter has well,I,ve done this for 20yrs.so any of you guys know anyone,thanks

[eddywilliams]

We pray for the honest hard working people who are trying to find work to be able to land a job .I agree with Abshire on drug testing any one on unemployment or welfare especially welfare .The welfare people need to clean trash from the highways work on roadcrews paving ........ The welfare system is abused ,its sickening .This fella I know probobly got back 8,000 in income tax ,lives in a $400 month apartment (4 - people) his wife works and they recieve food stamps and unemployment and hes satisfied that he cant provide his children with nice things or obtain a drivers liscense ........It's sad ,I feel sorry for the family because he can work just lazy .He will live off the income tax till next year

[madcatter]

first off---i have paid into the unemployment system-there fore i have the right to use it if necessary
unemployment was never created for a universal job loss-fall back onto plan,it was created for the seasonal worker--construction,highway,etc---not the guy whos company moved out of this country to make products elsewhere for slave labor rates and poor working conditions
i been drawing unemployment for 11 years now,on and off being in a union-work till job is done,wait for another to start
for those that think 309 a week for 73 weeks is alot of money,309 x 73=22557---over 6 years come on you really think folks are gonna get anywhere on that kinda money,they will loss everything if they do

for those who cry--there are jobs-----you may think 18 or 20 bucks even 25 a hour is decent,but without benefits,you will now add into the system a even higher increase of needed tax dollars to pay for the folks who go to the doctor,hospital etc and not pay.those with jobs will then pay more,and more and more.until it then doesnt pay to work at all.the system is set up to screw everybody-working or not

looking at my last paystub,32 hours straight time/14 hours overtime/12 hours double time i paid---ready for this---1.91 into pa unemployment.
not much to 1--draw 585.00 a week when i am laid off
2--not much of a loss from me to help provide for those who need the program
for those who think 585 a week is alot,its nothing as to compared to when i am working-so why would i want to stay on it.

on that same paystub,i paid over 86.00 into my unions dues/fund etc and you wont hear me complain about that either

[eddywilliams]

I understand cat ,my problem is not with you or the people who honestly need and deserve umemployment it's for this certain individual and the thousands more who can get a job in there field or a job or EVEN go look for a job .This individuals job moved out of state which isnt his fault I understand this but he claims hes gonna draw unemployment for 2 or 3 years and the stipulation on this was you have to go to school or stay in school ,he wont even do that so I do not understand how someone can recieve benefits while not pursuing a job by applying ,and not signing up for schooling that is mandatory .This makes me crazy

[madcatter]

well theres another problem,if folks cry about the system as it is--how they gonna cry when they add on them extra costs?
i agree with ya,but if you are gonna drug test 5 million people@what?125.00 a test---test them when--every month-to get what,309 a week?every working person will now need to pay a bazillion dollars more into the program

the problem is the government---they made the unemployment program bigger,cause they want bigger government,they want folks to think they need government,they have done it with social security,and unemployment.

the way i look at it is if a guy wants to stay on unemployment as long as possible,thats his loss,he isnt paying into social security,which will always be there, it may be re-named into a different government program,but it will always be there,it will be his loss then when he is older,if he wants to survive on low unemployment benefit--his quality of live isnt very high,probably not teaching his kids much good etc.but for the folks who are on and need unemployment--i am sure they would rather be working.

until folks demand american made goods,there is no need for american jobs.until companies are required to have the same level playing field of safety,health,enviromental requirements,then companies will,poison,expose,use cheap labor until those who now have our jobs demand better working conditions,a decent living wage,etc.the folks will smarten up--after they see thier kids getting sick,after they bring home exposures and give them to thier whole family,after they lose thier wives and husbands who are killed on the job,just like this country did.it took americans some time to BEGIN to fight for some rights in labor,just dont everyone give up the fight.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

If people need unemployment they should have it, granted if they are actively seeking employment..... The muchers need something to do why would a third generation ck drawer look for work if i pay u pretty well to stay home.jmho.

[xdawg2]

I'm pretty sure the money paid into unemployeement is paid by the employer not the employee.

[Duke]

I am fully employed as a Fire Fighter currently. I decided I wanted to get a part time job 3 weeks ago, went out put in an application to Bass Pro Shops (love the discount) Yep, Im now working at Bass Pro Shops part time. My girlfriend from florida moved up here in April and by May was working making 32g a year and she only has a GED.

I go to my local pub for a beer, the same 3 guys who are in there every time I stop in who are layed off. I tell them about my new job and that they are hiring. One of them flat out told me Im not going back to work until the unemployment runs out. I know at least two of them are also working under the table, one in plumbing and the other interesting enough is a electrician. HMMMMMMMM.

I dont mean to beat someone who is down, but here is the deal when I wanted to be a Fire Fighter I took every test I could over the entire US. I kept taking them till I got the job, I would have moved anywhere to get the job. Guess what if they shut down unemployment just see how quickly you will see people find work. It will happen. Jobs exist. You may have to move, you may have to start at the bottom.

And you know how bad some people want jobs?????? They climb fences, swim rivers, go through tunnels they leave there families and go to other countries to FIND JOBS. And YEP they are finding them. And they are making a living not only for themselves but sending money back to their families back home.

I dont like illegal immigration, wish they would shut the border, but with the work ethic we have in this country, LOL, I really wonder who is going to do the work. 2years on unemployment...... RIDICULOUS GUYS.....simply RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!

Oh and last time I looked the President has not been George W for almost 2 years. I dont see any of that great HOPE AND CHANGE promised, except that maybe we are learning to become lapdogs to the government dole. We are becoming weak and we are sitting back as politicians steal our souls.

If I remember my history this country was created by men and women jumping in boats traveling for months over dangerous seas facing scurvy and desease to be dropped of in a wild land with no jobs, no houses, a sometimes hostile indigenous and YEP hard to believe NO UNEMPLOYEMENT CHECKS!!!!!