I.F.C. MJR Argentevil Striker

King's Way Kennels · Post by **King's Way Kennels** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:07 am

Just wondering from some people who own some of his pups what are some of their more dominate traits and just as much about what has been some of their faults. What are their mouths like typically as far as amount and sound. What is their height on the majority.

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:13 pm

Good Line Controll (for the mid west).

They have good gears.

Good nose, Chop mouth, Full 15" dogs usually.

Easy to handle and they have brains.

Here are a couple of pics of some Striker breed dogs..

This one is out of Wookie who is a son of Stiker.

The Tri color dog on the far right is out of Striker.

King's Way · Post by **King's Way** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:01 am

Great looking dogs Robert and must do as good as they look with the number of rabbits you have on a snowy day like that. I know it gets worse but it still was a good job. Does anyone know a few generations of the breeding on this Wookie male?

swing · Post by **swing** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:24 am

Rob,
Would you be interested in sending that Wookie male my way?
He doesnt look right in your hands. lol

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:00 pm

Thanks.

Buy the Wookie male do you mean my Duce dog?
Here is his pedigree.http://www.espomagazine.com/pedigrees/5179.htm

Yes they do a nice job.
You had asked for some of there faults and I forgot to mention what faults I have found. There usually extremly independent which isn't really a fault but sometimes can get you in trouble if they split on a rabbit in a trial. My Duce dog will not leave a rabbit to go to a pack. I have noticed this in all the Strker Dogs I have seen. So you would want to watch that you arent breeding to another extremly independent bitch.

LOL Trent,
He is faster than every thing I am running now. But no I can't part with that one.

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:02 pm

Sorry guys that was me who posted that above.

Here is that pedigree Link.

http://www.espomagazine.com/pedigrees/5179.htm

swing · Post by **swing** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:42 pm

That pedigree looks kinda similiar to a dog I own, his name is Bus, and no he isnt call the short bus.

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:52 pm

Very similiar.

That bus should turn out to be a darn good hound.

I have ran with that Ceder swamp jack dog a few times.
He is your kinda dog.. Big nose tons of hunt and good foot.

King's Way · Post by **King's Way** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:12 pm

Thanks Rob and keep me in mind if you have any pups available. Ecspecially if you cross your Striker dogs to any Northern Michigan hare hounds.
I guess you meant the Duce dog whichever male was in the bottom picture that is on the far right. Or I'm guessing the one on the right was the Striker male. Is that you holding him?

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:25 pm

Kings way.

The top picture is me with Duce.

The dog in the bottom picture to the far right is bear.
Bear is out of Larsens Anna and Striker. He is a 1/2 brother to Duce.
Here is Bear pedigree.
http://www.espomagazine.com/pedigrees/5180.htm

I think my friend has a couple males left Out of Duce and a Northern hare breed bitch from Bob Smilowski ( Blue Sly) breeding. They are 10 weeks old.
Here is a picture of one.

If you are interreasted in one let me know and I will put you in contact with him.

King's Way Kennel · Post by **King's Way Kennel** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:51 pm

Is Bear out of Anna or Sadie? Plus what is Tall Grass Flash Boy out of and isn't Penny out of Paycheck? Do you like Bear or Duce better and why? I do not mean to bother you so much with all the questions but as I said, I do not buy from or breed to a male without knowing the goods and bads. However, I do not ever buy males so I don't want one from your friend, nothing personal. I do have a dog down here now from Blue Sly's breeding and the sire is Townline's M.R. Tyler which is out of Bright Spirited Buddy. One of the best I have had in a long time so that is why I am interested in some of the Striker pups to cross with what I have now. Email at freedom1way@aol.com if you need to.

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:29 pm

Here is a pedigree that will show you Sand county pennie and Flash boy.

http://www.espomagazine.com/pedigrees/4958.htm

I Bear is out of Anna, Duce is out of Sadie. Sadie and Anna are litter mate sisters.

I like bear and Duce both. Duce has more foot than Bear does.
Bear has more range when he hunts. You can hunt bear from the road where as Duce hunts with you. They are equal in nose and line controll.
Duce will fight for the front more than Bear will.
They both are pretty similar.

Bear is about 15 1/4 and Duce is 15 on the money.

No problem about the pups.

I think over all you will find the Townlines/Blue sly stuff hunts harder than the Striker stuff, But I think you will see the Striker stuff has more line controll.

As for nose I have seen they are about equal.

I know that Striker stuff is hard to find so I am just trying to help.
If you need any more info feal free to give me a call.
(313) 706-1366

Rob

Post by **Aaron Bartlett** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:19 pm

Rob,
Have you found that the Striker pups tend to start later than others? I havent seen alot of dogs out of Striker and as a matter of fact the ones Ive seen Striker was thier grand father but they all seem to start a few months later than others but once they started they seemed to progress at a faster rate. Just curious.

Robert W. Mccoy Jr · Post by **Robert W. Mccoy Jr** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:33 pm

Aaron,

Yes I think they do as a rule start later than some.

Duce and Johnl's doc dog (Duces litter mate) I started at 5 1/2 months.

But most of them I would say start at or around 8 months.

I don't think they progress any faster. They still needed alot of running to really start circleing rabbit good.

I think they start out so calm verses some of the hare breed dogs that they have an easier time running at a younger age. You don't have to wait for them to settle down.

I have never seen a Striker dog that was all wound up.

But I have also never seen a Striker dog that hunts like a northway dog.

I have noticed that they don't hunt all that well untill they get some age on them and there intensity level gears up.

Duce started out at a flat medium speed with little hunt.

Now He hunts pretty good but he is a hunt with you type dog and he hunts around you and flies.

I kinda wish I could turn him back down sometimes LOL.

Over all if I had to critisize the Striker stuff at all I would say there hunt is there achelis heal.

I like a super hard brush busting type dogs that hunt close, and they are not like that.

At least none that I have seen.

bluegrass · Post by **bluegrass** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:48 pm

I can second that last point Rob, the Striker hounds I am familiar with tend to hunt wider than I like but I suppose with the hare breeding they are bred to range out...They are usually very calm hounds and do really tend to hunt harder after about 18 months of age...Most of all, they seem to have brains and learn quickly. Tony