Tape worms??

[team fudd]

I get my information from my best friend who has a large veterinary practice, has been practicing for 20+ yrs. One post was correct in that it stated your dog gets the tapeworms from fleas. They do not get them from the rabbit themselves which many people incorrectly assume. These fleas also live on dogs, coons, possums, skunks, etc etc and your best prevention for fleas is to use a product like frontline or the generic equivalent called termidor which is much less expensive to eliminate your dogs issues with fleas. Honestly your best and cheapest bet is to worm with drontal or the generic equivalent which chip and a couple other guys sell on this board and it gets em all. If you have any further questions just pm me. Take care and good runnin

[mdbeagler]

Dogs obtain dog tapes from flea's and common tapes from eating the guts of
animals such as rabbits. Safeguard will kill dog tapes but not common tapes.
When a dog bites at a flea carrying a microscopic tape and accidentally swallows
it the dogs becomes infected with a tape worm.
Praziquantel kills common tapes found in rabbit guts. I have never heard
that dogs can't carry a tape from a herbivore. If you look at the life cycle
of the common tape, that can be easily found on the internet you will
see that the life cycle is complete when a predator eats the rabbit.
Link below shows life cycle of both tape worms.

http://www.dr-dan.com/tapeworm.htm

[rabbitsmoker]

That is exactly what the University that done atopsy on my friends dog report said He has the results in a picture frame for fun because of what it cost him to find out To do the otopsy was free but he had to pay vet ship the dog and they had to disspose of the dog cost his butt lol. It is interested to read it has the whole back ground and what causes dogs to get te worms We have learned alot from the report

[gwyoung]

teamfudd, being a fairly cheap person, I am always looking for a cheaper alternative. Is the Drontal or it's generic equivalent that Chip sells less expensive than Equimax once a month and does either of them prevent heartworms. The equimax will prevent heartworms and kill all of your tapeworms at the same time in 10 dogs for 12 dollars total cost for the month, This is a dollar and 20 cents per hound per month. I believe I know the answer to this but you seemed fairly certain so get back with me on this, on this post. Ask your vet to dispute what I am saying and sign his name to the post while he is at it. I don't think it is going to happen, Thanks.

[gwyoung]

I have never had to treat my beagles for fleas so I have no first hand experience with them . But that doesn't mean I haven't formed an opinion based on reliable information from people who have treated fleas. Frontline, ( active ingredient Fipronil) as some have mentioned, probably as good as it gets. But I wouldn't use it due to the cost involved. Imicloprid is a very very effective compound to rid your hounds of fleas . WalMart sells a product called Bayer Tree and Shrub, active ingredient imicloprid, I know folks who have been using it for years ,a lifetime supply is 20 dollars. 1.5 cc's on the back once a month , no fleas. I have studied this at length, and believe it to be so, any experts have a vet that wants to jump on this and disagree! Would like to hear from them.

[team fudd]

gwyoung, your last post on this thread sounds dangerously close to calling me out. Why is it someone always has to start a pi$$ing contest on these threads? The info that I stated came from a very reliable source, someone who I know and trust and has never steered me wrong in 20+ yrs of caring for my hounds. The pills that I speak of are the generic form of drontal, they kill all worms with the exception of heartworms. They cost 2.25 apiece. I have been told by numerous sources to worm every three to four months with them and I should not have a problem. I keep six to ten hounds at all times and have never had a problem with worms, The bayer tree and shrub you speak of is no longer available with the active ingredient you speak of. It was taken off the market and replaced with a "new improved" version which no longer contains the active ingredient which you speak of. For fleas I personally use something called termidor which is fipronil, same thing as in frontline mixed with something called precor which is methoprene, the same ingredient in the "plus" in frontline plus. both of these products are available on the internet, considerably cheaper than what one pays for frontline and are very effective. I can worm all my hounds, and treat them for fleas for less than 150.00 a year. For heartworms I use ivomec .1cc per 10 lbs each month, also much cheaper than heartgard etc. I do not advocate anybody use any of my formulas I am just stating what works for me. If I somehow offended you that was not my intention. I was under the impression these boards were meant as a place to exchange information not to bash one another

[ohlinger]

teamfudd, being a fairly cheap person, I am always looking for a cheaper alternative. Is the Drontal or it's generic equivalent that Chip sells less expensive than Equimax once a month and does either of them prevent heartworms. The equimax will prevent heartworms and kill all of your tapeworms at the same time in 10 dogs for 12 dollars total cost for the month, This is a dollar and 20 cents per hound per month. I believe I know the answer to this but you seemed fairly certain so get back with me on this, on this post. Ask your vet to dispute what I am saying and sign his name to the post while he is at it. I don't think it is going to happen, Thanks.

Equimax don't get tapes...Rule of thumb for dummies lol if it kills heartworms it won't kill tapes! K.I.S.S. They are just two different types of parasites, Tapes are in a class of there own. Equimax is a generic brand of ivomec. it's great for mites, hook and round worms, and other parasites, but it don't get them tuff lil tapes!

[gwyoung]

teamfudd, You said in your second post that only one prior post was correct, I posted prior to this and am fairly certain I was correct, You also said if anyone had any further questions to PM you, I saw this as not only wanting to take the post off the board but arrogant as well. Now that I look back at your post I can see where maybe you meant only "one prior post was correct "about how dogs get tapes, Also If you meant for the PM to be about drontal only, then perhaps I was out of line.

[gwyoung]

Ohlinger, I want you to find out what Equimax is. Go get a tube put it in your hand read the label. If you still don't understand, have a vet or anyone who knows anything about wormers explain it to you. After you have done this get back on this board and tell us who the Dummy is. Don't be shy about it.

[team fudd]

thanks for your corrections gw and yes I meant that if the original poster had any questions about the effectiveness or where to get the drontal generic he could pm me. I did not want to hijack his post or turn it into a ad for chip eisenhut who I get my wormer from. We all use what we feel is best for our hounds and after much research, lots of question and answer periods from my friend the vet I have come up with what I feel are very effective methods of treating my hounds. Not to say that they will work for everybody but they work for me! Good runnin!

[Newt]

Ohlinger, I want you to find out what Equimax is. Go get a tube put it in your hand read the label. If you still don't understand, have a vet or anyone who knows anything about wormers explain it to you. After you have done this get back on this board and tell us who the Dummy is. Don't be shy about it.

Equimax Paste Bimeda Animal Health Equimax Paste by Bimeda Animal Health
Equimax horse dewormer provides safe, broad-range control of parasites, including tapeworms and bots. Equimax contains 1.87% Ivermectin and 14.03% Praziquantel. Equimax is the only ivermectin/praziquantel horse wormer approved as safe for all horses.

[ohlinger]

Ohlinger, I want you to find out what Equimax is. Go get a tube put it in your hand read the label. If you still don't understand, have a vet or anyone who knows anything about wormers explain it to you. After you have done this get back on this board and tell us who the Dummy is. Don't be shy about it.

Equimax Paste Bimeda Animal Health Equimax Paste by Bimeda Animal Health
Equimax horse dewormer provides safe, broad-range control of parasites, including tapeworms and bots. Equimax contains 1.87% Ivermectin and 14.03% Praziquantel. Equimax is the only ivermectin/praziquantel horse wormer approved as safe for all horses.

Lol Never saw any equimax paste...I've tried the liquid. It's a generic version of ivomec....have fun taping worming you're dogs with something designed to get horse tapes...you're dogs will have a different kind of tape...

Here is a little reading to get you started...

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... 54&aid=769

Getting info can be as simple as typing a subject in you're search box and reading...

[ohlinger]

This right off the equimax website...it's designed to get these tapeworms..

Tapeworm Species
•Anoplocephala perfoliata
•Anoplocephala magna
•Paranoplocephala mamillana

These are the tapeworms that affect dogs...

Dipylidium caninum
Taenia species
Echinococcus granulosus and E. multiocularis
Diphyllobothrium latum
Spirometra mansonoides

So you tell me bub LOL.

[ohlinger]

Ohlinger, I want you to find out what Equimax is. Go get a tube put it in your hand read the label. If you still don't understand, have a vet or anyone who knows anything about wormers explain it to you. After you have done this get back on this board and tell us who the Dummy is. Don't be shy about it.

did'nt have to put it in my hands to see the b.s lol. I would play nice if u would buddy...no hard feelings just using the same tone with u that u are using with others...the internet is just full of information. It's pretty simple to me horse wormer is made for horses dog wormer is made for dogs. People always try to be creative and pass on bad suggestions...I've listened to people and tried safeguard horse wormer and safeguard goat wormer, valbazen cattle wormer, none of which is made for dogs....None of which has worked well for me in my dogs..i will be a firm believer in if it says for horses its for horses, it says for dogs it's for dogs. cheaper or not if equimax was a dog wormer it would'nt say for horses it would say for dogs just keeping it as simple as it really is...

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

I don't have a pony in this race but the same ingredient is the same ingredient.....

You can buy penicillin that says, dog, cattle goat, human, cat etc but ITS THE SAME MEDICINE AND DOES THE SAME THING... adjust the doses for weight an presto!

trust me safeguard goat wormer does infact work on dogs.... never had a bad stool while using it.... and its recommended by my vet. you still give it once a day and its 1cc per kg of weight i believe but i would have to go look at my paper and i am being lazy