Tape worms??

[ohlinger]

you fellas do whatchya want wit ur hounds ..I'll worm mine with wormer made for them ...If you can't afford what they need better get rid of'em...

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

its not the price....drug companies purposely prey on ppl who love their animals.....look up vet economics and the reason why small vet care is so expensive now

[ohlinger]

I think most houndsman assume they are familiar with the antics of advertising, and veterinarians, however what we are talking about here is not just as simple as reading the weights and dosage amount and cutting it down to a "assumably safe" safe amount for an animal it's not intended for. The forumals in the active indgredients are made for that specific animal that is why it's called equine, cattle, goat, swine wormer. There is a bit of science i'm sure that goes into it. when you are worming you're dogs with "redneck doses" of cattle , equine,swine, and goat wormers, you are taking a toll on there organs mainly kidneys, and liver over the course of a dogs life recieving this stuff on a regular basis for the course of 7-8 years is going to take it's toll on some of the key organs of you're dog, b/c the formula of the wormer is not designed for the dog you are giving it to. I don't care you guys do what you want with you're dogs, but I'm telling you facts. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Drontal for dogs is a wormer made for dogs, in the correct doses that is going to be safer and easier for you're dog than you're guestimation figuration of a smaller dose of a wormer made for an animal with a different body system and is about 1,000-2,000lbs heavier than you're dog is. I'm sorry fellas, it seems like a smart idea yeah, but it really ain't if ya think about it......The product you're using is tested on horses to be safe and is safe for horses.. not dogs....there is a reason behind that. and the reason is it's A HORSE WORMER NOT A DOG WORMER, not to mention AGAIN it's a completely different type of tape worm, which is propably going to require a different amount of active ingredients to kill.....you might as well be slowly poisoning you're dog. Call me a sucker, hippy, or whatever you want, but go ahead and ask team fudd i scrape every last penny i have to pay bills, put gas in my truck, raise my daughter, keep a roof over my head, and care for my dogs, but at least I can say they are eating right, and recieving the proper care and maintenance they are entitled too for what they do for me. this is just a fair warning for those of us who may read what you're putting up about these livestock wormers, and think it's 100% okay to do for there dogs b/c it is'nt, to the rest of ya Good Luck hope it suits ya . do what suits you, but don't suspect i'll be buying a 4 year old dog from you b/c Lord knows how much longer it may live....This might be something to consider when buying an older dog !!!!! What kind of quality of life has this dog has before you aquired it ? Someone pays 5 or 600.00 bucks for a NICE broke dog 4 or 5 years old, and it lives to be 7 b/c it's organs are shot.......ouch i'd be pretty upset but it's a good deal for the seller they saved money on womer, and got rid of the dog for top dollar before it died .

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

my final post on this.....

Lethal dose for safeguard is insane- they fed 100 times the recommended dose to dogs every day for years before it affected the kidneys, the reason you give it three days in a row is that it metabolizes so fast!!! It is the safest wormer on the planet...a lethal dose would be a dog eating an actual gallon at one sitting....

in some medicines i conseed the active ingredient case. i.e. termidor/frontline but in the case of safeguard its 100% the same as the grained powder in dog form.... I teach chemistry in school and know this is the case. its legally required to be on the drug msds sheet... look it up.

I wouldn't give my animals or my kids something unsafe but its literally the difference between getting liquid penicillin and pill penicillin....

THE DRUG COMPANIES KNOW THIS---- I am not a conspiracy theory guy but this is how they make profit... I worked in a pharmacy while going to college....dog lovers will pay more so they market accordingly----

[Beaglemomma]

Since I almost lost one of my babies to Imvectrin tube horse wormer it has made me reconsider what and how I am worming. The vet told me the liquid Imovec for pour on cattle works for dogs but to be careful with the dosage. He gave me Safeguard for dogs. Yes I paid for it but he didn't have the wormer Bev said she used. He said the goats are ruminants (SP) and dogs eat meat so the wormer is different. I can't see any difference in the ingredients and it is a three day process, as usual. I depend on you all to keep me straight since I am still new to this game and enjoy you all very much. My dogs are like my children as they are all I have in this world. Naturally I only want the best for them, but like you all I work for a living and this economy is tough. Who thought those of us hard working people are now paying more those not working and don't belong here, but I degress. I would appreciate more information on this subject and where the best place to buy it is. Thanks for letting me be a part of this.

[rabbitsmoker]

If hunters would just use Drontal Plus all worm problems would be took care of I like worming my dogs with wormers made for dogs alot of these wormers are all in our head on how they work best ost of luck on whatever you use sometimes cheaper is not always better JMO

[Beaglemomma]

Please send info on where to purchase Drontal. Thanks

[rabbitsmoker]

Your local vet will know exactley what you need per pund when you go get i promise you want be dissappointed its little more costly but well worth it it cost me 11.00 bucks per dog every 6 months Some say more often but my vet says its a waste of money to worm that often with a good wormer unless you see worms I dont like the generic i like the real mccoy

[ohlinger]

lots of those livestock wormers don't rid ur dog of worms anyhow they just control them to a less noticable state but check 2 or 3 months later they're shitting worms again..u do it right with drontal and they are gone in one shot one day..no more worms till they contract them again.

[gwyoung]

Ohlinger, I posted about Equimax paste horse wormer , you called me a dummy . I asked you to read the label. You then admitted you had never seen the product I was refering to. Who is the dummy now. You went on to say that the product you have never seen before , will kill our dogs after 7 years or so, ruin their kidneys, etc: you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about something you have never seen, Conduct some blindfolded tests and are now passing on some " facts are you? I never saw anyone that was such an expert on something they didn't even know existed yesterday . I asked you again to answer the Question, Who is the dummy now? Also you felt it was necessary to tell me that a tapeworm and a heartworm were two different species, perhaps from reading my posts you gathered that I wasn't smart enough to know this. From reading your posts I just have to tell you a Buick Stationwagon and a "Possum are two different things.

[gwyoung]

Ohlinger, One more thing , you seem to insinuate that I am saying dogs only get one type of tapeworm. This is some more Mis-information by you. If anyone will read my prior posts they will see otherwise. I did say they were more likely to get a certain tape. and this is a fact that veterinary science will back up.

[rabbitsmoker]

Whatever type of tape worm they have 1 worming with Drontal will wipe them out I think it will get whips and hooks to only 1 it want get is heart worms I allways heard you can give heart worm prevention but if they get heart worms are already have them there is no cure

[gwyoung]

rabbitsmoker. Drontal will kill your tapes , but I don't believe it will get your hooks and whips, There is a cure for heartworms, I am fairly certain of this , but you may want to run it by a real Expert like Ohlinger.

[rabbitsmoker]

I was almost sure my vet said it would get whips or hooks maynot I do know a dog can be fat with round worms but will loose weight with tape or heart worms and wont gain none

[team fudd]

Drontal, or the generic form of it will kill all worms, tapes, whips, all of em. EXCEPT HEARTWORMS. It does not kill heartworms, you have to use something else like heartguard, I use ivomec. You can buy the generic form of drontal off chip eisenhut of eisenhut dog supplies who advertises on this board. There are also a couple others who sell it on here, I have experience with chip and know him to deal fairly and ship quickly, I think it is 2.25 a pill or something like that. My best friend, who is the vet, sais like someboedy else who has posted that you really only have to worm with it every six months but if it makes you feel better every three to four months is fine and in no way detrimental to the hound. This wormer is the best thing out there, cheap in the generic form and very effective. I honestly have only seen one worm since I started using it in all my hounds and I keep six to ten at all times and check their stool very frequently. For what it cost a pill I dont see how anybody could use anything else quite honestly, If used as directed I dont think any other wormer could be cheaper or more effective. Good luck and good runnin!